Is Drug Testing A Waste Of Time &money

[johnnoble]

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IS DRUG TESTING A COMPLETE WASTE OF TIME &MONEY.

 

 

After what i have heard lately it is definately a waste of time &money.

People are using methods now which can not be detected.

People are not daft enough to use caffiene, theobromine etc. which is easily detected, but are resorting to other methods.

Anyway half the time these tests do not get sent off.

{caffiene, theobromine is bugger all to the methods being used now] by some unscrupulous owners]

These people are only fooling themselves , they will never beat a good dog which is drug free & at its peak.

 

[decca]

well said john :thumbsup:

 

[Fleesh]

We have been thinking the same for a while John - but are intrigued to learn what methods "people" are using. Over here we have a hard enough time keeping a dog at it's right weight let alone giving it a "boost".

 

[RealMadYid]

Don't believe it's a major problem...if it exists at all...and, if it does the culprits are only cheating themselves IMHO...and their dog's too, which is even worse...

But, I do wonder why this topic keeps rearing up...do we have people in our sport that use ILLEGAL substances...knowingly? And, I mean that in all honesty...

Regards,

Paul

 

[Karen-Coral]

Yes it probably is a waste of time and money.....John

and the cheating scum-(whoever they are) that drug/mess with their dogs are a waste of space too.

100% losers

Karen

 

[Vicky]

I think too much of my dogs to be pissing about with them and would like to think the majority are the same :cheers:

 

[kris]

personally i cant see the point in drugging a dog in order to win.its understandable in horse racing cos theres a lot of money to be made.but surely in whippet racing theres no money in it so the only reason a person would have to drug a dog is to boost their own ego,and some folks egos are so fragile that they will resort to this method in order to win at any cost .but thats pretty dumb too cos youd know your dog wouldnt have won without the drug so why bother?i guess therell always be cheats in any sport,but in their own heart of hearts they know their dog didnt deserve to win,and they robbed an honest owner and a good dog. :thumbsup:

 

[phil]

personally i cant see the point in drugging a dog in order to win.its understandable in horse racing cos theres a lot of money to be made.but surely in whippet racing theres no money in it so the only reason a person would have to drug a dog is to boost their own ego,and some folks egos are so fragile that they will resort to this method  in order to win at any cost .but thats pretty dumb too cos youd know your dog wouldnt have won without the drug so why bother?i guess therell always be cheats in any sport,but in their own heart of hearts they know their dog didnt deserve to win,and they robbed an honest owner and a good dog. :thumbsup:

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i agree with karen ,they are scum without any consideration,but this issue willnever go away ,unless we are given some indication what to look for ,i know you cant name names ,but someone lnows what is being used ,i think it should be exposed every time , instead of pretending it doesnt happen. phil

 

[phil]

kris i did not mean to ure quote , i am only learning how to use my computer. phil

 

[mutley]

i think its a stupid waist of money and has put nothing but distrust and bullshit into this sport :angry: which has shown over the past few years :blink: and then made a mockery of :rant: those who cheat know who they are and have to live with the false glory achieved when using stimulants in what is supposed to be a hobby :wacko: i do not think that anyone knows enough about testing ect for it to continue the sport would be better of without it in my opinion .......

 

[RealMadYid]

Gary, you are 100%, we don't understand it, we can't afford it, and those who do KNOWINGLY cheat delude themselves, and betray their dogs...

Anyways, I'm off to fall asleep watching the football,

Paul

 

[JOHNG]

you have to keep it as a deterent ,but what if a test comes back positive for some illegal substance,how are they going to be dealt with, if given a ban all they have to do is transfer the dog to someone else to run,the door as been left wide open.IMO

 

[mutley]

thats it john exactly thats why i think its a pointless procedure as i said i dont think anyone knows enough especially to make it zero tolerance which caused most problems over last few years :angry:

 

[kipper fluke]

If we dont have it people might as well keep the money they pay for transport in thier pockets---say ta ta to whippet racing and find a new hobby.I am sure that there are plenty of things without cheats that one could do instead.

steve

 

[Wipeout]

I have to agree with Kipper Fluke. Why should people spend all that time and effort getting their dogs ready for a championship race only to be beat by a dog that does not deserve it due to it's owner simply wanting 5 minutes of glory.

Why can't everyone be honest. The sport is about fun, there is no big money to be won so what's the point????

 

[Susan]

Keep drug testing,,,I would not like to think we traveled hundreds of miles to be cheeted by cheets . Im sure noone dopes there dogs ,,,if they did,,WHY for a BWRA / FED tital ,,Bloody daft if they did..Keep Testing going :thumbsup:

 

[phil]

Keep drug testing,,,I would not like to think we traveled hundreds of miles to be cheeted by cheets  . Im sure noone dopes there dogs  ,,,if they did,,WHY for a BWRA / FED tital  ,,Bloody daft if they did..Keep Testing going  :thumbsup:

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its not just the champs we travel to ,its the same thing if we travel for top ten points, i wonder what would happen if we had more time trials . phil

 

[tanglewood]

ok so we have done drug testing for the past few years now what good has it done? Fair enough we have supposedly CAUGHT some owners who have drugged their dogs and what changes have been made because of this? We have also sent off numerous tests that have came back clear but we of course are not the type of folk who pat ourselves on the back for these results. we instead like to dwell on the scandal or the presummed thoughts that there must be more folk drugging if only we could catch them.

This in my opinion is what is wrong with the sport instead of celebrating the good things about it we like to assume that those in the sport that we may not like or are jealous of are of course at the capers.how else would they have good dogs ?

 

[mutley]

thats my point val its caused a lot of trouble, the only way it should be done is a vet to take the samples then theres no arguments, as we thought was to be done at champs no other sport would allow one trainer to take another trainers sample its ridiculous their will always be accusations and speculation in the sport the whispers do their rounds as soon as someone gets a decent dog going i dont think any drugs can enhance a good or bad dog, well steroids mayby but to stoop that low in whippet racing is shit do it properly or not at all :blink: :cheers:

 

[tanglewood]

Understand the point that a vet should take the sample, however we have given test to both Governing bodies NOT under the supervision of a vet they have came back clear. however even though we have been assured by both commitees that they were clear there were still a few racers who were saying yeah they were never sent off. So where does it all end it seems that unless we CATCH someone we will never be happy, also nobody seems to have faith in those doing the organising so where do we go from here?