Is It A Good Thing Or Bad ?

[milly]

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[Tony Taylor]

Moderators have to obey the forum rules but we also have to enforce them. As many of you are aware these issues are often discussed between the moderators and the site administrators who set the rules so when action is taken it's usually in full knowledge of the site owners and to enforce the rules they have set.

Having said that K9 gives the non ped forum alot of leeway. My personal view is for as little censorship as possible and I think the tone of our section reflects this. I agree that newcomers won't understand how current politics work without knowing the past. Having said that when a topic is 2 pages off topic and has degenerated into a personal fight then there's really no option but to close. By all means restart the original topic but it would be foolish to then restart the slanging match and you should expect direct individual "censorship" if you do.

Anyone not sure can always re-read the forum rules :thumbsup:

 

[hellbound]

A lot of interesting topics have been closed or deleted in the past as some members myself included have gone off topic with slagging match's ... the later topic been the same, i was very upset yesterday  a certain k9 member insinuated i was stealing from the nnwrf funds esp after all the trouble i have had the past month to retrieve what was missing ... i how ever might be to blame for the topic been deleted as i asked to have a few post removed
"You live and learn. At any rate, you live."

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tbh when i saw the remark that was made about you being accused of theft i was quite shocked. mad.gif this sort of personal libel isnt needed or called for and when people do this sort of thing theyre are being silly in that they are leaving themselves open to litigation which can be quite an expensive way of having a go at someone. wink.gif healthy debate is good after all our forefathers died so we could have free speech,theres still places in the world dont forget where people are terrified of voicing their opinions so i for one take freedom of speech quite seriously.yes sometimes it can get out of hand and when passions and strongly held beliefs are held then the mods do need to step in and calm things down by removing some posts,but i dont think anything is served by whole threads being removed.its like being cut off in mid stride so to speak.you still have points you want to make and cant cos its gone!it can be quite frustrating! laughing.gif

i'm only guessing here but if your referring to my QUESTION :b about who would be paying for the test on my dog THERE WAS NO INSINUATION OR ACCUSATION just a simple QUESTION if you want to read more into that question that your problem

 

 

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[hellbound]

Moderators have to obey the forum rules but we also have to enforce them. As many of you are aware these issues are often discussed between the moderators and the site administrators who set the rules so when action is taken it's usually in full knowledge of the site owners and to enforce the rules they have set.
Having said that K9 gives the non ped forum alot of leeway. My personal view is for as little censorship as possible and I think the tone of our section reflects this. I agree that newcomers won't understand how current politics work without knowing the past. Having said that when a topic is 2 pages off topic and has degenerated into a personal fight then there's really no option but to close. By all means restart the original topic but it would be foolish to then restart the slanging match and you should expect direct individual "censorship" if you do.

Anyone not sure can always re-read the forum rules  :thumbsup:

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i think that some moderators only obey the forum rules when they want to and enforce them in a prejudice manner if they take on the role of moderator then they should do this without any prejudice

 

you only have to look at the topic's that have been taken off over the last two days

 

[Karen-Coral]

I think the moderators on the whole do a good job

if the people that posted did half as well there would be no need for moderators ---

steve

 

[Vicky]

I think most people appreciate why some posts get set invisible / edited etc without even having to ask and if not then they haven't read the rules properly. Like Tony i think as much as possible should be left on, if someone has taken the time to type a half sensible reply sticking within the rules and topic in a juicy thread then i don't see any reason why their post should be removed just because every other post around them is trash, i don't agree in the full thread being deleted, you also have to watch what you do moderate because you moderate one person and you can guarantee they will trawl through the whole non ped forum to find a post which was along the same lines that wasn't deleted and throw it back at you thinking you have something personal against them.

I agree with Steve that some people new to the forum wouldn't know what's gone on in old debates wouldn't know the ins and outs but in saying that why should the rest of you have to read through the same monotonous posts that have been repeated again & again.

It is no good "reporting a post" and saying please deleted this, give us a valid reason why you think it should be removed.

Another bug bear for non ped k9ers, it has been brought in by the board owners that pups / adults can't be sold on k9, this has got peoples backs up on this section and in my view there really isn't any market for puppy farming in non peds as there is in other sections, however you can't rehome pups / dogs on one section but have it as a strict rule on others. I can't see anything wrong if you word it correct "sire x dam, born 12/12/06 any info contact Peter" or " adult dog, sire x dam, any info contact Peter" as long as you don't say "for sale" etc.

Lastly, Tony, Michelle & Myself are all moderators on this section however it isn't always us that moderates the posts, rightly or wrongly in the past it has been known for other moderators to remove posts on our section for whatever reason when we are not online and we do try to resolve it as soon as we sign in.

Any problems with the way we moderate then please don't hesitate to contact any of us by pm.

 

[Karen-Coral]

I think most people appreciate why some posts get set invisible / edited etc without even having to ask and if not then they haven't read the rules properly.  Like Tony i think as much as possible should be left on, if someone has taken the time to type a half sensible reply sticking within the rules and topic in a juicy thread then i don't see any reason why their post should be removed just because every other post around them is trash, i don't agree in the full thread being deleted, you also have to watch what you do moderate because you moderate one person and you can guarantee they will trawl through the whole non ped forum to find a post which was along the same lines that wasn't deleted and throw it back at you thinking you have something personal against them.I agree with Steve that some people new to the forum wouldn't know what's gone on in old debates wouldn't know the ins and outs but in saying that why should the rest of you have to read through the same monotonous posts that have been repeated again & again.

It is no good "reporting a post" and saying please deleted this, give us a valid reason why you think it should be removed.

Another bug bear for non ped k9ers, it has been brought in by the board owners that pups / adults can't be sold on k9, this has got peoples backs up on this section and in my view there really isn't any market for puppy farming in non peds as there is in other sections, however you can't rehome pups / dogs on one section but have it as a strict rule on others.  I can't see anything wrong if you word it correct "sire x dam, born 12/12/06 any info contact Peter" or " adult dog, sire x dam, any info contact Peter" as long as you don't say "for sale" etc.

Lastly, Tony, Michelle & Myself are all moderators on this section however it isn't always us that moderates the posts, rightly or wrongly in the past it has been known for other moderators to remove posts on our section for whatever reason when we are not online and we do try to resolve it as soon as we sign in.

Any problems with the way we moderate then please don't hesitate to contact any of us by pm.

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I THINK THATS A FAIR AND HONEST ANSWER TO THIS

and i thank Vicky and the other moderators for their comments

 

steve

 

[Tony Taylor]

i think that some moderators only obey the forum rules when they want to  and enforce them in a prejudice manner if they take on the role of moderator then they should do this without any prejudice  

you only have to look at the topic's that have been taken off over the last two days

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This is a classic example of ignoring the rules;

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FWIW it wasn't me who closed the topics and admin have made them invisible. I've reopened one already having deleted a number of posts excessively in breach of the site rules.

The other topic may be reopened and is under discussion with admin at this time.