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i am the person selling the IG on epupz! how dare you all make judgement on the welfare of my dogs! why dont you ring me and ask for all the reasons why the dog is going? For 30 years I have waited for this breed, and sadly my 15 yr old disabled son has an unknown mass in his chest and many hospital visits are ahead! well thank you all for your help, the home is far more important than any price and 4 sales have been turned down! The quote about the
caravan is very much open to legal action which i will be acting on! you havent even bothered to get your facts correct! only last week my vet congratulated me on such well conditioned and happy dogs! perhap if you so called dog lovers actually helped people instead of condemming then maybe people wouldnt find it so hard to approach you! As for the price it is clearly stated that the dog is open to offers! 01493 445655 for those of you who havent bothered to check! but please dont waste my time
doris said:
Paula Roberts said:
i have a 14lb whippet and a 5 week old pup from her whos only 3lb at the moment so think thats the closest im going to get.  :))
sounds adorable! I love little ones :oops: you know what I mean :wacko:

kirs said:
Would love to know what happens to the little man.
Kirsten

Yeah, me too! anyone got any news?

 
I believe the point is that if someone wants a good home to be their first priority for a dog, why put it up for sale?

The Italian Greyhound rescue has years of experience in getting special homes for this special breed

The person who bred the dog should always be the first place to go to for help anyway - if they are happy to take hundreds of pounds for a dog they should be happy to help out in what sounds like a very distressing time with the minimum of fuss or difficulty

That is the reason why people make comments about what is important - you will have no difficulty in finding italian greyhound people who will help to find a suitable home
 
I am the vendor of the IG you all seem to know so much about! would any of you like to ring me and find out the truth? 01493 445655. there now you have my number. perhaps you should seek out the truth before you make judgement? As for what you have said , i have a very good case for legal action which i will be pursuing! the ad clearly states very very good home only, also states price is a guide only, and that a sad change in circumstance forces the sale! my 15 yr old disabled son now has an unknown mass in his chest, therefore many visits to the hospital are coming up and i dont feel it is fair on the dog to remain here, i have waited 30 yrs for the breed and now due to the small minded opinions of those concerned i am now sickened by people who attempt to call themselves acting on the interests of the dogs! you have my number please feel free to call :(
 
Good luck with rehoming your Iggy and I hope your son gets well soon :luck: :luck:
 
doris said:
I believe the point is that if someone wants a good home to be their first priority for a dog, why put it up for sale?
The Italian Greyhound rescue has years of experience in getting special homes for this special breed

The person who bred the dog should always be the first place to go to for help anyway - if they are happy to take hundreds of pounds for a dog they should be happy to help out in what sounds like a very distressing time with the minimum of fuss or difficulty

That is the reason why people make comments about what is important - you will have no difficulty in finding italian greyhound people who will help to find a suitable home

I am so angry that you have the courage to write such scathing remarks when it is obvious you know nothing at all about me, i have to lower myself to this level is very sad, if i am in if for the money why have I declined offers very close to what i asked? because it wasnt a good enough home! and yet invited 2 people to view offering almost half? I waited 30 years for this dog so has never and was never a whim, i had a purpose built run constructed with a 2000kw convection heater installed, I also have never gone to breeders I have always had rescue dogs, that otherwise would have been destroyed, and why if i am such a bad dog owner would my vet comment on how well my dogs look and is glad to see dogs so well cared for? In fact it was a nurse at the vets that i turned down because she was at work 10-5 5days a wk! Had your group not been so judgemental maybe then i would have been able to come to you, but sadly i really feel that people that are so judgemental would not be the right loving home i wish for, red is a super little dog with lots to give and deserves the best, so i will wait till the right home comes and keep in contact with the little man, at that price only those that love respect and admire the breed will make contact, and after careful vetting then i will decide if the dog goes. further comments will not be replied to until i have legal action and advice in place, slanderous, untrue and discriminating material has been submitted and should be dealt with by the laws in place to protect the innocent. thank you for your unkindness

 
*Lesley* said:
Good luck with rehoming your Iggy and I hope your son gets well soon :luck:   :luck:
sadly i dont feel that there is a happy ending for my son, the drain put in his brain has now ceased to work and it is inoperable, further to that the growth is growing at a rapid pace and all the medics dont know what to do for the best, if the start to operate then the drain in the brain will be needed and as that now cant be replaced, either way its goodnite? so just get my dream dog and this happens? at lest ive had the pleasure of owning such a beautiful and gracious dog even if it is short lived? I had his brother too but gave him to a family member, he goes in 3 wks, so very very sad and maybe ill have to wait another 30 years but id love to have another much much later in life after its all over and done with? so upset to hear such judgement when people dont know me, thank you for your comment tho

 
I am sorry that Tanya Docwra has been distressed as a result of comments made on K9.

Please please can we ensure that if we see similar situations in the future that we try and gain correct information before any sweeping statements are made.

Thinking of the reasons that the dog is being rehomed, which are so personal, it is very sad that Tanya felt she had to make public those reasons in order to quell the comments that were being made.

The forum exists for people to share stories (good and bad) and information and, if we can, to help those new to the breed who seek information/advice. We should not condemn any person especially when all the facts are not known. In this instance I think I would feel very aggrieved and angry if I felt I had to give out intimate and distressing facts.

Hopefully Tanya will accept the apology I have made as moderator of the forum and withdraw from any legal action she was considering.

There is no doubt that we all want the best for our breed, but sometimes, when circumstances are difficult we don't always communicate as clearly as we might, but neither should a person be slighted when the facts are not clear surrounding the rehoming.

I am sure that Rescue & Welfare would be only too pleased to assist with rehoming the little chap.

In the meantime I wish Tanya's son every success in getting well and I am sure that will be echoed from all on the forum.
 
Tanya Docwra said:
*Lesley* said:
Good luck with rehoming your Iggy and I hope your son gets well soon :luck:   :luck:
sadly i dont feel that there is a happy ending for my son, the drain put in his brain has now ceased to work and it is inoperable, further to that the growth is growing at a rapid pace and all the medics dont know what to do for the best, if the start to operate then the drain in the brain will be needed and as that now cant be replaced, either way its goodnite? so just get my dream dog and this happens? at lest ive had the pleasure of owning such a beautiful and gracious dog even if it is short lived? I had his brother too but gave him to a family member, he goes in 3 wks, so very very sad and maybe ill have to wait another 30 years but id love to have another much much later in life after its all over and done with? so upset to hear such judgement when people dont know me, thank you for your comment tho


I am so very sorry for your son and I hope the medics find someway of helping him, people on the forum are very passionate about their breed, whatever that may be, however I think that on occasion too quick to judge, please know we are individuals,not all of the same oppinion, so please don't condem us a whole. :)

I wish you the best for your son and your Iggy
 
Once again Someone new to K9 has been insulted and found guilty before the jury has even been swore in.

How many more times is this going to happen?.

Unfortunatly there seems to be a culture on K9 recently were by anyone rehoming a dog for what ever reason is jumped on and insulted.

I think it's about time this came to an end before it gives K9 a bad name.

Hope you'll consider staying around Tanya and joining in with topics.

Hope things work out well for your son.
 
janfiers said:
I am sorry that Tanya Docwra has been distressed as a result of comments made on K9.
Please please can we ensure that if we see similar situations in the future that we try and gain correct information before any sweeping statements are made.

Thinking of the reasons that the dog is being rehomed, which are so personal, it is very sad that Tanya felt she had to make public those reasons in order to quell the comments that were being made.

The forum exists for people to share stories (good and bad) and information and, if we can, to help those new to the breed who seek information/advice.  We should not condemn any person especially when all the facts are not known.  In this instance I think I would feel very aggrieved and angry if I felt I had to give out intimate and distressing facts.

Hopefully Tanya will accept the apology I have made as moderator of the forum and withdraw from any legal action she was considering.

There is no doubt that we all want the best for our breed, but sometimes, when circumstances are difficult we don't always communicate as clearly as we might, but neither should a person be slighted when the facts are not clear surrounding the rehoming.

I am sure that Rescue & Welfare would be only too pleased to assist with rehoming the little chap.

In the meantime I wish Tanya's son every success in getting well and I am sure that will be echoed from all on the forum.


Posting at the same time as janifers :thumbsup:
 
Mark Roberts said:
Once again Someone new to K9 has been insulted and found guilty before the jury has even been swore in.
How many more times is this going to happen?.

Unfortunatly there seems to be a culture on K9 recently were by anyone rehoming a dog for what ever reason is jumped on and insulted.

I think it's about time this came to an end before it gives K9 a bad name.

Hope you'll consider staying around Tanya and joining in with topics.

Hope things work out well for your son.

Could not have been put better Mark, hope this has not put you off Tanya? :thumbsup:

SUE
 
I'm sorry you feel this way, my comments were not intended to be unkind, scathing or offensive, they are a reflection of my opinion about what is a difficult subject - people always get emotional when they hear about this type of dog being sold in such a way

I was trying to tell you know that there are people out there who can help you at what sounds like an incredibably difficult time, without the added stress of vetting strangers at your door

I hope that things work out for you all
 
Thank you for your replies, by the time it is now you will see i dont sleep too well! Now all the awfulness seems to be easing i will tell you some happier things, I have the most beautiful non pedigree whippet bitch, she goes by the name of mabel, shes a doll! She is the most perfect dog anyone could wish for, she was bred outside and even though i tried to bring her in she does want to know! pefect of the lead unless she spots a cat. even though she sleeps with my 14yr old tabby moggy, another rescue, she would have been drowned! mabel doesnt travel well so i have to walk to the horses rather than drive, so could say spoilt?I have a 15yr old son Thomas who was born 3 mths early and has had 9 brain ops and 3 leg ops, I also have 1yr old alfie, who is a bundle of trouble but puts his wellies on and helps with dogs and horses. Thomas used to ride but is now too heavy for me to lift on, my relationship of 5 years broke down yesterday, sadly he was the luv of my life i wasnt his! I love my boys and pets more than anyone could realise and i am the type of person who gives her all, it is through love for the dogs why i decided to sell red , he will be such a star i want whats best for him, blue is staying in the family, so at least il be able to maintain a good bond, thers an upside to the heated run, if the kids get too much il move in with mabel!oh and today is my birthday! 12,11,05, i would like to keep going on this site, as im interested in all dogs, especially IGs and the whippet, my father keeps whippets and its down to them why he recovered so quickly from his triple bypass last year, hpoefully when we spaek next it will be on better terms. regards Tanya
 
doris said:
I'm sorry you feel this way, my comments were not intended to be unkind, scathing or offensive, they are a reflection of my opinion about what is a difficult subject - people always get emotional when they hear about this type of dog being sold in such a way
I was trying to tell you know that there are people out there who can help you at what sounds like an incredibably difficult time, without the added stress of vetting strangers at your door

I hope that things work out for you all

Maybe if when i asked for help in the very beginning, people had been more friendly and helpful i would have been able to come to you, IG people have got a very bad name for being unkind and rude to those even just to enquire about the breed? I rang round many breeders for info and advide when i started saving for my dog, 1 lady would sell me a dog unless i kept it caged except for walks! this was about 15yrs ago so dont even know if the lady still breeds? i was told as a singleparent i wasnt suitable, thomas cant even walk so he was hardly a threat? iv had people physically turn their back on me at shows and refuse to even answer a question? I even looked into buying 1 from the states but was told id be put down in the class for it being akc reg! so whilst no it may not have been you, you tell me how i could approach for help? Id rather vet people as i will know personally whether they are good enough for red.
 
So sorry you are not having a very good time at present :( & i wish you all the very best with your son + all your animals :thumbsup: especially finding that special home for red- :wub: ooohhh i would love to have him :wub:

By the way its my birthday to-day as well :thumbsup: SCORPIO :thumbsup: Just gonna open my cards & maybe open a small bottle of chardoney :cheers:
 
*Caz* said:
So sorry you are not having a very good time at present :( & i wish you all the very best with your son + all your animals :thumbsup:   especially finding that special home for red- :wub:   ooohhh i would love to have him :wub:
By the way its my birthday to-day as well :thumbsup:   SCORPIO :thumbsup:   Just gonna open my cards & maybe open a small bottle of chardoney :cheers:

And a very happy birthday to you too! have a good day and best wishes
 
Tanya, this is obviously an incredibly sad situation all round. I am sorry if you feel the IG people you have approached have been rude in anyway but sometimes things are taken the wrong way.

Thankfully the majority of IG folk care passionately about the breed & being a somewhat specalist breed they are concerned where the go.

A lot of Breeders will not sell to people with young childre, not because they dislike children but simply because they know the fragility of the breed & how accidents can happen. A child can accidently fall on an adult whippet with no real major harm done but to an adult IG could result in a broken spine or leg at the least worst scenario.

There have been several situations in the past where IG's have gone to people with children & been returned at a later date to the breeders with broken legs, tails & worse.

This is not to say no one with young children should ever have an IG & that every situation is going to end badly as i know many IG's do live happily with youngsters but as a breeder you try & ensure the right enviroment for your breed & learn by past experiences.

Alarm bells rang when an advertisement was placed in this kind of newspaper which is worrying because simply it is open for all & sundry to reply to. Maybe some good understanding people BUT maybe some not. Incredibly a lot of people do not even know what an IG is & just think small whippet but they are totally totally different as you probably now well know.

Also i know you said the price was negotiable BUT £750 is an extortionate amount to be charged for an IG even by a top reputable breeder. Many people uneducated in our breed may read that ad & just think "wow £750, think of the money i could make if i got that one & then a bitch & started breeding"

Whoever the person was that made a comment something about a caravan, re-reading the post they were referring i think to the person who bred the dog not yourself by the sound of it.

I am truly sorry for your circumstances BUT we have the Rescue in place to help people like you that have to part with a much loved dog through no fault of their own. They are not their to mop up after unscrupulous puppy farmers out to make a quick buck but in a genuine case like yours they would lean over backward to try & help.

There are many people waiting on rescue who have been waiting many years for a much loved IG, thankfully as our breed are NOT on the whole commercially bred, rescues are reasonably few & far between.

I know you have chose not to contact rescue BUT if you do have difficulty finding the right home, i can assure they would be happy to help & all potential owners are already vetted.

The rescue & most IG breeders are here to offer help, advice & support when needed, i'm sorry if you have had a bad experience but i guess there are good & bad in all breeds.

I hope you find a safe, loving & happy home for Red BUT if you have any difficulties or your situation changes in anyway for the worst, if you feel you are not able to contact rescue personally then please feel free to pm me at anytime & i will do all i can to help.

Nina
 
nina said:
Tanya, this is obviously an incredibly sad situation all round. I am sorry if you feel the IG people you have approached have been rude in anyway but sometimes things are taken the wrong way.
Thankfully the majority of IG folk care passionately about the breed & being a somewhat specalist breed they are concerned where the go.

A lot of Breeders will not sell to people with young childre, not because they dislike children but simply because they know the fragility of the breed & how accidents can happen. A child can accidently fall on an adult whippet with no real major harm done but to an adult IG could result in a broken spine or leg at the least worst scenario.

There have been several situations in the past where IG's have gone to people with children & been returned at a later date to the breeders with broken legs, tails & worse.

This is not to say no one with young children should ever have an IG & that every situation is going to end badly as i know many IG's do live happily with youngsters but as a breeder you try & ensure the right enviroment for your breed & learn by past experiences.

Alarm bells rang when an advertisement was placed in this kind of newspaper which is worrying because simply it is open for all & sundry to reply to. Maybe some good understanding people BUT maybe some not. Incredibly a lot of people do not even know what an IG is & just think small whippet but they are totally totally different as you probably now well know.

Also i know you said the price was negotiable BUT £750 is an extortionate amount to be charged for an IG even by a top reputable breeder. Many people uneducated in our breed may read that ad & just think "wow £750, think of the money i could make if i got that one & then a bitch & started breeding"

Whoever the person was that made a comment something about a caravan, re-reading the post they were referring i think to the person who bred the dog not yourself by the sound of it.

I am truly sorry for your circumstances BUT we have the Rescue in place to help people like you that have to part with a much loved dog through no fault of their own.  They are not their to mop up after unscrupulous puppy farmers out to make a quick buck but in a genuine case like yours they would lean over backward to try & help.

There are many people waiting on rescue who have been waiting many years for a much loved IG, thankfully as our breed are NOT on the whole commercially bred, rescues are reasonably few & far between.

I know you have chose not to contact rescue BUT if you do have difficulty finding the right home, i can assure they would be happy to help & all potential owners are already vetted.

The rescue & most IG breeders are here to offer help, advice & support when needed, i'm sorry if you have had a bad experience but i guess there are good & bad in all breeds.

I hope you find a safe, loving & happy home for Red BUT if you have any difficulties or your situation changes in anyway for the worst, if you feel you are not able to contact rescue personally then please feel free to pm me at anytime & i will do all i can to help.

Nina

Thank you for the the reply, I can understand where some of you are coming from and as for making a quick buck that is not the case with me, I too diagree with breeders pumping out pups at every oppurtunity, I am also unhappy to see such close relatives being bred so closely. as for passion bout the breed, i know that only too well, my father is glad i got 1 finally coz now i ,ay change the record! I dont think i went on about them quite that bad but as he has had to listen to me go on bout then for 30 years yes i could have been a pain! I think we all have lessons to learn and this is one of them. maybe the ig people are misunderstood and their passion is clouded? but there are many people out there offering perfect homes and are not being given a chance, so because they sre passionate they are forced to go elsewhere to get the dogs or get crossbreeds, not a practice that anyone condones. So please just give us ordinarys a chance, hear us out before you judge? like i said the child was no risk to the pup because he is wheelchair bound and of no risk whatsoever and that was still used against me? i understand how fragile they are. Perhaps we all need to take a step back, look closely at ourselves and come back out as new friends? if i can remain with blue then i would like to show and i will need your help, so please i ask you for it now.
 
As i said Tanya if you need any help you only have to ask, thats what we are here for.

If you need any potential homes vetted & they are not in your neck of the woods you can pm me & either myself or one of our co-ordinators could check it out for you.

We have a lovely lady waiting at the moment who has been on the list for some time who i feel would be happy to pay a reasonable sum for an IG & give it a good loving home but a lot of people can not stretch to excessive amounts.

The ball is in your court, we are here if you need us & will help any way we can.

Our main concern is to help any IG in a difficult situation & try & support & help any genuine caring owner in the hopes of a happy outcome all round.

Nina

P.S Good luck, fingers crossed everything turns out well
 
I've been away for a few days visiting my grandson on his first birthday, so missed this thread.

I would just like to welcome you to K9 Tanya, and hope that all your difficulties at home are soon resolved. :luck: :luck: It's a real pity that things got off on the 'wrong foot' for you, but hope that you stay with us. It is a great site and very informative, with loads of helpful folk.

I don't have an Iggie (but would love one someday), but it's great reading all about the little angels o:) o:) (or is that devils!!). :devil: :devil:
 

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