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Here's an example of what adding salt to the diet can achieve, posted from another forum Im on....

Before....

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After...

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The big improvement took around a month.

Interesting, and I guess (if your vet agrees) it has to be worth a try.

Vicky

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To be honest Amanda, I wouldn't know how much running could cause an increase, it's a bit like trying to predict how a human will cope with stress. Some can tolerate high levels and positively enjoy being on the edge whilst others can succumb to anxiety / depression etc. I suppose a humans ability and susceptibility to their endocrine secretions is just as varied as a dogs can be.

I wouldn't like to say stop putting her behind a lure or carry on regardless either as I think it's a hard one to know especially as of yet no-one knows even if she does have hyperthyroidism and furthermore no-one knows the specific cause. Maybe Martin who's obviously more familiar with her will be able to give you a better insight on what to do in the meantime.

I think Vickys made some good points here, I'd await the results for the time being but if they're within normal ranges yet her symptoms are still indicative of hyperthyrodism then I'd be inclined to seek a specialists advice purely for the reason that Vicky states Greys levels are commonly lower than other breeds. If this is the case then what would be seen as a normal level to a vet may actually be high to a specialist who had familiarity of the breed.
 
vs1 said:
Just be careful you aren't being taken for a ride by the vets.  Although in greys it is reasonable to suspect a thyroid issue, this is not always the case and often more likely down to stress or poor bedding in areas which they lie on a lot.  In greyhound training circles there are a lot of 'home cures' to try, including adding a small quantity of salt to the diet, cornucresine like they use on horses feet, kelp tablets etc etc.  I seem to remember that gryehounds have a naturally lower thyroid level than other breeds of dog so make sure your vet is aware!  You would be better to take her to a greyhound specialist vet and it would be about half the price as well :- "
Vicky

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Hi Vicky,

Lady sleeps on a single duvet,doubled up,so i don,t think its the bedding.I know vets are not very well informed when it comes to Greyhounds,that is why i have mailed Martin.As it has only just started,and we have had her 3 months,we are baffled.

Amandaxx
 
vs1 said:
Here's an example of what adding salt to the diet can achieve, posted from another forum Im on....Before....

before.jpg


After...

after.jpg


The big improvement took around a month.

Interesting, and I guess (if your vet agrees) it has to be worth a try.

Vicky

x

Hi Vicky,

I am very funny about what i feed the dogs,so i don,t think its salt.They only have natural treats,are on good quality food,and the Whippet Greyhound looks perfect.

Although i will be careful that i do not give her hidden salt.

Amandaxxx
 
hey Amanda hope the results come back and you will know whats causing it,but i think our jac(wild whippies)is right and it is hyperthyroidism.funny thing is we were only talking about this on thursday when we took the dogs swimming.we were talking about john (stormy)as hed just been on the phone and we were talking about bald thighs on greys/whippys/lurchers.i was saying that i swore by liverine unction as id used it on the manchester terriers years ago and always with excellent results also on our dobes.but jac was saying with racing dogs it doesnt matter what you put on them its thought to be the high protein levels and the stressors involved in racing thats the contibutory factor.good luck,hope she gets sorted soon. :luck: :luck: :luck:
 
finleyfoofoo said:
vs1 said:
Just be careful you aren't being taken for a ride by the vets.  Although in greys it is reasonable to suspect a thyroid issue, this is not always the case and often more likely down to stress or poor bedding in areas which they lie on a lot.  In greyhound training circles there are a lot of 'home cures' to try, including adding a small quantity of salt to the diet, cornucresine like they use on horses feet, kelp tablets etc etc.  I seem to remember that gryehounds have a naturally lower thyroid level than other breeds of dog so make sure your vet is aware!  You would be better to take her to a greyhound specialist vet and it would be about half the price as well :- "
Vicky

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Hi Vicky,

Lady sleeps on a single duvet,doubled up,so i don,t think its the bedding.I know vets are not very well informed when it comes to Greyhounds,that is why i have mailed Martin.As it has only just started,and we have had her 3 months,we are baffled.

Amandaxx

I didn't mean Lady's problem was caused by bad bedding, I was referring to greyhounds in training and some possible reasons they often have. I know she's comfy with you!

Vicky

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finleyfoofoo said:
vs1 said:
Here's an example of what adding salt to the diet can achieve, posted from another forum Im on....Before....

before.jpg


After...

after.jpg


The big improvement took around a month.

Interesting, and I guess (if your vet agrees) it has to be worth a try.

Vicky

x

Hi Vicky,

I am very funny about what i feed the dogs,so i don,t think its salt.They only have natural treats,are on good quality food,and the Whippet Greyhound looks perfect.

Although i will be careful that i do not give her hidden salt.

Amandaxxx

No, the point is you SHOULD add salt as an additive to their diet and this fixes the problem, I'm not suggesting salt is the problem. One of my friends has added salt to his retired greyhound bitches diet and she has regrown all her hair.

Vicky

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I know where Vicky's coming from on this, it's just not coming across easily basically because the condition is such a variable one.

Firstly it's unknown yet whether it really is a thyroid issue, secondly even if the levels are seen as out of the guide range doesn't neccesarily mean treatment through medication is needed and to make matters even more confusing a dogs levels that are within the range doesn't neccesarily rule out that the thyroid is playing a factor in the symptoms your seeing. :wacko:

The other thing is what the symptoms are which are indicators of whether intervention is needed, balding thighs is of course not a major issue however if the thyroxine levels are effecting the hearts function then of course there's justification for intervening.

What I think Vicky's saying is that where there's a suspected dysfunction and it's idiopathic in nature (as in no-one knows the cause) then you go back to the drawing board and look at what nutritional and environmental factors could be playing a factor in effecting the thyroid's function and work from there.
 
vs1 said:
finleyfoofoo said:
vs1 said:
Here's an example of what adding salt to the diet can achieve, posted from another forum Im on....Before....

before.jpg


After...

after.jpg


The big improvement took around a month.

Interesting, and I guess (if your vet agrees) it has to be worth a try.

Vicky

x

Hi Vicky,

I am very funny about what i feed the dogs,so i don,t think its salt.They only have natural treats,are on good quality food,and the Whippet Greyhound looks perfect.

Although i will be careful that i do not give her hidden salt.

Amandaxxx

No, the point is you SHOULD add salt as an additive to their diet and this fixes the problem, I'm not suggesting salt is the problem. One of my friends has added salt to his retired greyhound bitches diet and she has regrown all her hair.

Vicky

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Not a greyhound but when I first met my husband many years ago he had an arab mare. Nothing would make her put weight on until we noticed that when she was stabled she had a salt lick block on the wall which she was constantly licking. She ould also lick your hands as much as she could. In the winter when she was stabled she would put weight on.

It occured to me that no matter how good the grazing or what he fed her in the summer she lost weight. We then started giving her just a handful of corn with a small amount of salt mixed in and she started putting on weight and her coat improved. I spoke to the vet and he said she was suffering from a salt deficciency .From then on we gave her salt in her feed and she kept her weight on
 
So sorry to hear your girl is suffering, can I reccomend you add apple cider vinegar to her diet. If you have not heard of this, alot of rescues use it for weak dogs with bad skin, fur loss, mange, bad digestion etc. It works by changing the dogs ph level. You can add a teaspoon or two to her food or water daily. I really cant reccomend this enough, I am having great success with it here. Just google it, you can get it in most supermarkets and anyone that owns a dog should have a bottle of this in their cabinet. Good luck with her :thumbsup:
 
Years ago my second greyhound who came to me at 4 years of age had bald thighs and she was rather jaded. After the vet took blood tests he said she was suffering from low thyroid function and was medicated on OROXIN tablets for the rest of her life. Misty's energy levels improved and her hair grew back :)

Best wishes with Lady :luck: :luck:
 
whipwat said:
Years ago my second greyhound who came to me at 4 years of age had bald thighs and she was rather jaded.  After the vet took blood tests he said she was suffering from low thyroid function and was medicated on OROXIN tablets for the rest of her life.  Misty's energy levels improved and her hair grew back :) Best wishes with Lady :luck:   :luck:

Hi,

I am waiting for the results of the bloodtest,we should have had them today,but now it,s tomorrow.Your symptoms sound similar.I saw a Greyhound vet yesterday who said that she was probably suffering from Thyroid trouble,but also said she has some symptoms of Cushings.She is a bit perkier today,and eating a bit,although not herself.I am hoping its just a virsu or something treatable.

Thanks for the kind words.

Amandaxx
 
finleyfoofoo said:
whipwat said:
Years ago my second greyhound who came to me at 4 years of age had bald thighs and she was rather jaded.  After the vet took blood tests he said she was suffering from low thyroid function and was medicated on OROXIN tablets for the rest of her life.  Misty's energy levels improved and her hair grew back :) Best wishes with Lady :luck:   :luck:

Hi,

I am waiting for the results of the bloodtest,we should have had them today,but now it,s tomorrow.Your symptoms sound similar.I saw a Greyhound vet yesterday who said that she was probably suffering from Thyroid trouble,but also said she has some symptoms of Cushings.She is a bit perkier today,and eating a bit,although not herself.I am hoping its just a virsu or something treatable.

Thanks for the kind words.

Amandaxx

Glad to hear she is a bit perkier today. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it's nothing serious. It's so stressful waiting for results you must be really anxious to know what it is. At least once you know what it is you can start to treat it and then everything will look more positive. Lots of luck and hugs :huggles:

Vicky

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vs1 said:
finleyfoofoo said:
whipwat said:
Years ago my second greyhound who came to me at 4 years of age had bald thighs and she was rather jaded.  After the vet took blood tests he said she was suffering from low thyroid function and was medicated on OROXIN tablets for the rest of her life.  Misty's energy levels improved and her hair grew back :) Best wishes with Lady :luck:   :luck:

Hi,

I am waiting for the results of the bloodtest,we should have had them today,but now it,s tomorrow.Your symptoms sound similar.I saw a Greyhound vet yesterday who said that she was probably suffering from Thyroid trouble,but also said she has some symptoms of Cushings.She is a bit perkier today,and eating a bit,although not herself.I am hoping its just a virsu or something treatable.

Thanks for the kind words.

Amandaxx

Glad to hear she is a bit perkier today. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it's nothing serious. It's so stressful waiting for results you must be really anxious to know what it is. At least once you know what it is you can start to treat it and then everything will look more positive. Lots of luck and hugs :huggles:

Vicky

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Hi Vicky,

She is eating much better today,she looked scrawney yesterday.Just got back from Pets at Home with various goodies to tempt her.I am feeling more optimistic today,so fingers crossed.Thanks for caring.

Amandaxx
 
vs1 said:
finleyfoofoo said:
whipwat said:
Years ago my second greyhound who came to me at 4 years of age had bald thighs and she was rather jaded.  After the vet took blood tests he said she was suffering from low thyroid function and was medicated on OROXIN tablets for the rest of her life.  Misty's energy levels improved and her hair grew back :) Best wishes with Lady :luck:   :luck:

Hi,

I am waiting for the results of the bloodtest,we should have had them today,but now it,s tomorrow.Your symptoms sound similar.I saw a Greyhound vet yesterday who said that she was probably suffering from Thyroid trouble,but also said she has some symptoms of Cushings.She is a bit perkier today,and eating a bit,although not herself.I am hoping its just a virsu or something treatable.

Thanks for the kind words.

Amandaxx

Glad to hear she is a bit perkier today. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it's nothing serious. It's so stressful waiting for results you must be really anxious to know what it is. At least once you know what it is you can start to treat it and then everything will look more positive. Lots of luck and hugs :huggles:

Vicky

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Hi Vicky,

We have had the test results back,and Ladys white blood cells are low,and her Thyroid levels are very low,even for a Greyhound.The vet wants to run more tests,including Cushings and Lymes disease.We should have these results back for the end of the week.I am just hoping its Thyroid ,and not Cushings.

Amandaxx :(
 
Amanda i had a dobe bitch with cushings and she lived to a good age and apart from her medication she was ok and had a good quality of life so dont worry even if it is cushings.its definitely not the end of the world :huggles:
 
kris said:
Amanda i had a dobe bitch with cushings and she lived to a good age and apart from her medication she was ok and had a good quality of life so dont worry even if it is cushings.its definitely not the end of the world :huggles:
Thanks Kris,

You read and hear so many different things.The vet wants to see her again tonight,just to check her over and take more blood.My head is pounding.I am sure we will get her well again,i will try anything.Good job shes insured!!!

Amandaxx
 
Hi Vicky,

We have had the test results back,and Ladys white blood cells are low,and her Thyroid levels are very low,even for a Greyhound.The vet wants to run more tests,including Cushings and Lymes disease.We should have these results back for the end of the week.I am just hoping its Thyroid ,and not Cushings.

Amandaxx :(





Oh no! More waiting for results :( Poor you. I'm not surprised your head is pounding. Try not to worry I'm sure the vet will find out what it is soon and then you can get her some treatment. Lots of :luck: I'm keeping everything crossed for you. :huggles:

Vicky

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Hope everthing works out well with her !

I will follow her progress with interest.

Regards.
 

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