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[pip10]

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Hi I am new to this forum and dont actually own an Italian Greyhound, although I am looking at purchasing a breed of this type. I have been told that it is very hard to get an Italian greyhound so came here for advice. I saw the previous post and excuse my ignorance but if you look at the figures that are being quoted 40 puppies in 2 years is actually only an average of 8 litters, 4 per year. I have various friends who breed different types of dog and this would not be unusual to them, so could you please explain to me what the problem is as I am very interested to know. I dont want to jump on a bandwagon here and create any heated debates it just seems like a very interesting topic to me. Any advice is greatly appreciated.

What a lovely puppy Nicky, you must be having so much fun.

Pip

 

[jinnyfizz]

Hallo Pip and welcome to K9

This should turn out to be an interesting thread and I look forward to reading the debate! :thumbsup:

 

[whippetsrus]

Hello and welcome. I hope you enjoy your time on K9.

 

[pip10]

Hello, and thanks for welcoming me into your forum, looking forward to lots of doggy chat!!

 

[Hula]

Hello and welcome

 

[nicky12]

Hi I am new to this forum and dont actually own an Italian Greyhound, although I am looking at purchasing a breed of this type. I have been told that it is very hard to get an Italian greyhound so came here for advice. I saw the previous post and excuse my ignorance but if you look at the figures that are being quoted 40 puppies in 2 years is actually only an average of 8 litters, 4 per year. I have various friends who breed different types of dog and this would not be unusual to them, so could you please explain to me what the problem is as I am very interested to know. I dont want to jump on a bandwagon here and create any heated debates it just seems like a very interesting topic to me. Any advice is greatly appreciated. What a lovely puppy Nicky, you must be having so much fun.

Pip

hello and welcome to the forum ,thank you yes she is adorable and im loving every minuet of it ,i just cant get enough of her shes the most loveable funny little iggy, mad as a hatter and has me in stitches all the time with her funny little ways and she has everyone twisted around her little paws ,good luck in your search for you little iggy :luck: :luck:

 

[WIGGY]

Hi, welcome to the forum. Good luck in your search for the right pup. I must warn you, they are addictive. You'll end up with more than one like us. :luck: :luck: :luck:

Andrew.

 

[doris]

I saw the previous post and excuse my ignorance but if you look at the figures that are being quoted 40 puppies in 2 years is actually only an average of 8 litters, 4 per year. I have various friends who breed different types of dog and this would not be unusual to them, so could you please explain to me what the problem is as I am very interested to know.

Hi Pip, welcome to the forum )

I think the problem with people who are 'only breeding an average of 8 litters, 4 per year', is that they are breeding a proportionally high number of puppies in relation the the total number of pups being registered.

40 puppies in 2 years is, on average, 20 pups a year - I believe the number of IG pups registered in 2008 was approximately 160 - this means that one breeder was responsible for between 10% and 15% of puppies registered in one year.

Of course, that is assuming that there are 4 bitches are having litters of approximately 5 pups - if they are only having 2 or 3, which isn't unusual, then it could be many more bitches being bred from to make a grand total of 40 pups in 2 years.

Use that same forumla on labradors and you'd have one breeder being responsible for registering around 5000 pups a year!!!

Any breed who has individual breeders being responsible for such a large percentage of their registrations, would have other people in their breed being concerned by that - I don't believe that it is exclusive to iggie people to feel like that.

 

[pip10]

Hi

I am not sure that I really understand your reasoning on this - sorry to be a total idiot. I dont undestand the comparison to the 5000 dogs. But thanks for taking the time to reply to me.

Pip

 

[~Annie~]

As I understand it Doris's post is pointing out that of the approx 320 IG pups registered in the 2 years 2007-2008 anyone breeding 40 puppies in that time has bred 1/8th of all the puppies registered. In just the same way anyone who had bred 1/8th of all the labs bred in that time would have bred 5000 puppies. Obviously that's impossible, but imagine that it weren't ... the scale of the 'problem' is the same in IGs even though the numbers are smaller.

I know nothing about IGs but I know enough about genetics to know that having one breeder responsible for 1/8th of the gene pool of any breed is not healthy.

Annie

 

[pip10]

okay that I completely understand, but I have been looking at all the threads and it seems to me that there are not actually that many people breeding Italian greyhounds as I have been told that it is very hard to get one and there are long waiting lists. On that basis surely if you are breeding 1 eighth of the puppies then considering the amount of breeders there actually are, that is not actually that bad - or is it?

Just out of interest can any-one recomend a good breeder to me.

Thanks

 

[bertha]

okay that I completely understand, but I have been looking at all the threads and it seems to me that there are not actually that many people breeding Italian greyhounds as I have been told that it is very hard to get one and there are long waiting lists. On that basis surely if you are breeding 1 eighth of the puppies then considering the amount of breeders there actually are, that is not actually that bad - or is it?
Just out of interest can any-one recomend a good breeder to me.

Thanks

It's not good really, one person over breeding compared to the people who breed only when they want a pup to bring on and show, carefully researching the pedigree and choosing the best stud dog. Those are the people to get a puppy from they will always have something to sell, if they are running two on, obviously there will be well bred pups for sale.

Those who just breed for the sake of it in any breed have only one thing in mind, £££££££.

 

[rls22]

For a well bred, healthy, carefully planned puppy from a breeder wanting to give a life time of support there are waiting lists, as is to be expected. I think it is quite easy to find a breeder who will charge you an arm and a leg for the complete opposite!

May I point you in the direction of this wonderful site http://www.simplesite.com/ItalianGreyhoundSocietyUK