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[Seraphina]

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There is another thing that you should consider; rearing a litter is lot of work. You mention that you are a busy man, so who is going to do all the work? When i have a litter I organise things such a way that I do not have to go out for more than an hour, starting about week before the due date and for at least the first week - 10 days after birth. I change their bedding several times a day, the bitch gets fed 5 times a day until she starts to wean the pups (4-5 weeks), and then I start feeding the pups 5 times a day. When the pups start moving around I clean non stop, or they end up up to their knees in poo.

Being involved with various breed club run rescue services over the years, I have seen it so many times. People calling looking for stud dog and claiming they have homes for pups, getting stroppy when we try to persuade them not to breed their pet bitch, then few months down the track a phone call: HELP, cannot give the pups away.

As I said you should go back to your breeder. They should tell you if the bitch is good enough to breed and they should be able to help you chose the right dog for her. Unless of-course, you bought the bitch as a pet with the understanding she is not going to be bred from.

 

[Juley]

If you are wanting another bitch similar to your own, have you considered going back to her breeder and booking another pup from similar lines? If you are determined that you want a litter, the best person to ask abput a suitable stud dog is your bitches breeder. She will know her lines best. Any reputable stud dog owner will not want their dog used without being certain of the future wellbeing of any pups.

 

[~Helen~]

This is a good thread, and I've found it really interesting to read. The subject is something I've been dwelling on for two years now. I wanted a pup from my gorgeous bitch Josie to keep for myself, and a couple of people had asked me and said they'd be interested in a pup from her, as pets. I've done lots of research and reading, and I've read and re-read threads on this board as well as on others. I've spent 14 years of my working life as a nurse and then a Midwife for humans, so I think I probably have the necessary skills to at least point me in the right direction with whelping. I also work from home, am self employed, and able to book weeks off to spend 24/7 with potential pups.

But I've decided not to breed, for many of the reasons Dawn and the others have mentioned. (edited to add, I also realised I'd been very naive about breeding and the reasons for... )

Jethro, you seem a little over-sensitive and I really recommend you spend a bit of time re-reading the replies you've received, however unwelcome they are at the moment. What you're proposing to do is a huge undertaking, and will involve so much work and responsibility, not just now but for the future.

I really believe that we should all be open to constructive advice and thought-provoking information, however much we think we know. And after all - you don't have to take the advice, Jethro. As you say, she's your bitch and at the end of the day you can do what you like with her But surely it's worth thinking about? Be 100% sure before you go ahead, because once it's done there's no going back, however tough things get. A bit like having kids! :lol:

 

[jethro]

Thanks for yours and other comments Helen

Actually most of the comments are helpful..

friendly constructive advise is very... apprieciated

I may well in the end deceide not to breed as you have,anythings possible.

Im sorry Dawn but I do not apprieciate being ranted at and.. why should I?

and I only said the I J B you SEEM to be... why one rule for you and another for me?

I was just giving you a bit of your own medicine

Anyhow thanks K9 community for being their..

Its great to know there's so much support here. : :thumbsup:

J

 

[whippetsrus]

Without seeming rude, Have you bred a litter before and if not why do u want a litter from her??  Do you race her?
Have you got homes for the litter or will you be relying on advertising them?

Sorry to seem as if i am asking too many questions  but there are far too many who think that because they have a bitch they should have a litter.

Having a litter is a big responsibility are you aware that you could loose your bitch in whelp? Do you have plenty of money to afford the vets bills if things dont go well with the whelping??

Reputable breeders put years into researching the breed before having a  litter and search long and hard for the correct stud dog for their bitch, not just any old dog but one that will compliment and tie in with the lines of their pedigree.

Sorry but IMO there are far too many people having litters just for the sake of it to try and make a bit of money, well i can assure you if a litter and the pregnant bitch are reared properly you will be lucky if you break even.

Sorry for the rant  but please think long and hard about this.

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Well hello Dawn

thanks for the unkind and inappropriate comments I think you are as you say VERY rude

but just to let you know I have... bred litter's before.

And..No Im not racing anybody...... is it a prerequisite to breed your own dog?

and yes.... I can afford vet bills.... and NO...IM NOT DOING IT FOR THE F MONEY

and I'll furthermore I shall advertise where-ever I like

I have more people than hot dinner's wanting puppies so it wont effect your precious reputable market

If Im soo unlucky to lose my bitch in welp I shall not be asking you for sympathy

whoever said any old Dog!!

sorry wholly nessesary

J

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Just another one here who agrees with Dawn. Having had the priviledge to own one of her pups (or should I say be owned by one) I cannot think of a person whose judgment I would respect more. There are many people on this board who breed whippets and know the pitfalls as well as the benefits.

Maybe you should take heed of their advice. It is all given with good intentions and the best intended for the whippet concerned. I think maybe Dawn has hit a raw nerve!

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[whippynit]

how come one of 'jethros' posts was edited by a 'michelle'????? :blink:

 

[Millie]

Very interesting thread :thumbsup:

As a breeder and owner of stud dogs I would like to add two of my own experiances.

No. 1 . Stud dog. In my mind anyone having a dog available at stud is also responible for the pups........ without the dog there would be no pups !

A few years ago I was aproached by a pet owner, who also dabbled in racing, asking if he could use my dog. Well after a lot of questioning and advice from me, he came up with all the right answers, putting my mind at rest, he knew all the pros and cons............. My one big mistake was not checking out his home

5 pups were born, all doing well after a C. section birth. I arranged to go visit them at 5 weeks of age, 2 weeks before xmas. What greeted me will haunt me forever Five pups all squashed into a small crete (The one sold in argos) a couple had nasty cuts................ The owners explanation, they keep pulling over the xmas tree. :angry: They were being fed tins of super market dog food, not even puppy ! Owner said he couldn't afford expensive food after paying for the op and xmas :rant: :rant: :rant:

Those 5 pups can home with me there and then. Thankfully the grew into nice whippets.

No. 2 Responability of the breeder.

2 days ago I had a phone call from a very, very, upset and emotional lady. She had a pup off me just over a year ago. Totally spoiled him. Well she has just had her first human baby; Now the dog is very jealous of the new addition, having been thier baby for a year! The way I see it is, he can't understand why he's not getting their soul attention anymore. ! Well things came to ahead when the dog jumped up and grabbed the babies foot, luckily only taking the sock off.

The dog was brought back to me 11pm that night, luckily I have room to keep two males who are strangers to each other seperated. (Not to mention a bitch just coming to the end of her season) We don't know just yet whats going to happen with the dog, I have told the owners to take a few days to think long and hard about it. But for now he'll stay with me.

I hope this helps people understand that we can all make mistakes but also have to be there to pick up the pieces :thumbsup:

 

[~Helen~]

how come one of 'jethros' posts was edited by a 'michelle'????? :blink:

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Michelle is a moderator. I'm sure she would only have edited Jethro's post if there was something that broke k9 board rules

 

[dawn]

Im sorry Dawn but I do not apprieciate being ranted at and.. why should I?

In what way did I rant at you?? If I wanted to rant I would have typed in capitals.

I just asked a few questions and pointed out the resposiblity of having a litter which is a huge responsibility.

You seem to have taken my post completly out of the context in which it was meant (which is the problem with the internet u cannot inject feelings and emotions)

Dawn

 

[whippetmad]

I don't think Dawn was being rude at all,just stating the true facts,she has many years of owning whippets and knows what she talking about.

She did not say that [SIZE=14pt]you[/SIZE] were making money but there is enough people out there that do.I have a stud dog myself,and if people enquire about using him,there will be alot of quesions ask first,and if they don't like it, tough,they don't use my dog!

sorry Jethro just my honest opinion

 

[dawn]

Im sorry Dawn but I do not apprieciate being ranted at and.. why should I?

In what way did I rant at you?? If I wanted to rant I would have typed in capitals.

I just asked a few questions and pointed out the resposiblity of having a litter which is a huge responsibility.

You seem to have taken my post completly out of the context in which it was meant (which is the problem with the internet u cannot inject feelings and emotions)

Dawn

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Jethro I did use the generic phrase 'rant over' meaning I am writing on a topic I feel very strongly about. It DOES NOT mean anything more than that. I am sorry if you have taken the phrase any other way.

 

[dawn]

posted last post twice :b

 

[chelynnah]

She has ABSOLUTLEY NO IDEA who I am.... how much thought I have put into breeding my bitch........

So how much thought have you put into it? If you'd put thought into it I would personally expect that you'd have some specifics you'd be looking for. Lines, types. And if that much thought has gone into it, then why are you advertising here for a dog esp without giving enough info to let someone else make an informed decision as to whether they would want to offer their dog?

So people ask a few more questions and ask for a few more specifics (because you didn't give that in the first place) and THEY'RE the ones in the wrong?

If you've put that much thought into breeding her, then put it in your original post so that people don't have to pull teeth to figure out if they might have something you want, and then certainly no one would be second guessing.

But really your last sentence in your initial post just really makes it look like you're taking the mick and not taking the whole breeding thing seriously at all.

Wendy

 

[chelynnah]

how come one of 'jethros' posts was edited by a 'michelle'????? :blink:

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I would assume it was a mod, and it was edited due to language - a :rant: was inserted in place of the foul language.

Wendy

 

[kris]

agree with everything that dawn said and wendy,cant add anything more.its all been said.whether this person takes any notice of whats been said is another matter.oh and jethro i did know what you were referring to,i was just being obtuse.

 

[Seraphina]

A few years ago I was aproached by a pet owner,..............5 pups were born, all doing well after a C. section birth. I arranged to go visit them at 5 weeks of age, 2 weeks before xmas. What greeted me will haunt me forever    Five pups all squashed into a small crete (The one sold in argos) a couple had nasty cuts................ The owners explanation, they keep pulling over the xmas tree.

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:lol: I have visited several people who bred a litter and then contacted our club when they could not sell the pups. One man in particular sticks in my mind, when I first went to see him it was still obvious that his garden has been beautifully landscaped not so long ago, and his house was also immaculate. By the time all the pups were placed (last one was about 6 months) his garden was a wasteland, and the house had looked rather more "lived in " too, the doors were chewed and scratched, the walls needed painting and there were puppy teeth marks everywhere.

 

[michelle]

how come one of 'jethros' posts was edited by a 'michelle'????? :blink:

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I am a moderator on k9 h34r: and i edited the post due to bad language.

 

[alfyn]

how come one of 'jethros' posts was edited by a 'michelle'????? :blink:

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Something to do with calling Dawn an IGNORANT JUDGEMANTAL BITCH cos he obviously didn't agree with her well written post!!!

What worries me Jethro, is that your bitch is only 17 months old & looks very immature & skinny to me.I hope that you're not thinking of mating her for a good few months yet?

Just another point to put to you,I see from reading through your previous posts that your dream is to have "a bunch of whippets" from your bitch,so do i read into this that you're intending to keep quite a few from this litter you are wanting to breed?

If so,can i just make a point in the fact that it's far easier said than done to keep a few from a litter.There is quite often serious sibling rivalry when the pups get older,which could mean that you would eventually have to seperate them,or worse still,try to re home them.

There are so many older whippets about now that are needing good homes,or going into rescue,why not look to re home one of them instead of adding to the numbers?

 

[midlanderkeith]

how come one of 'jethros' posts was edited by a 'michelle'????? :blink:

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Something to do with calling Dawn an IGNORANT JUDGEMANTAL BITCH cos he obviously didn't agree with her well written post!!!

What worries me Jethro, is that your bitch is only 17 months old & looks very immature & skinny to me.I hope that you're not thinking of mating her for a good few months yet?

Just another point to put to you,I see from reading through your previous posts that your dream is to have "a bunch of whippets" from your bitch,so do i read into this that you're intending to keep quite a few from this litter you are wanting to breed?

If so,can i just make a point in the fact that it's far easier said than done to keep a few from a litter.There is quite often serious sibling rivalry when the pups get older,which could mean that you would eventually have to seperate them,or worse still,try to re home them.

There are so many older whippets about now that are needing good homes,or going into rescue,why not look to re home one of them instead of adding to the numbers?

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Was wondering who,d be the first to pick up the bitches age, cant we drop the matter now

keith

 

[Seraphina]

how come one of 'jethros' posts was edited by a 'michelle'????? :blink:

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I am a moderator on k9 h34r: and i edited the post due to bad language.

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Was there inapropriate language in the first post?

What worries me Jethro, is that your bitch is only 17 months old & looks very immature & skinny to me.I hope that you're not thinking of mating her for a good few months yet?

I usually start looking seriously for sire for my bitch soon after her first season, so i have no problem with Jethro asking now. But i have to agree that Kahlo needs to cover her ribs bit before she is mated.