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I have just taken William out for his early maorning walk we as usuall went along the gardens opposite our house to the end then came back and call in the papper shop for a newspaper.

As we were walking along a women apeared coming towards us with 2 dogs both of the lead the first a collie looked at William and went past the second a staffie circled round behind him and just followed with his nose on William's tail. All credit to William who carried on walking and just ignored it. Th woman srolled up and went to grab it thats when it went for William's throat thank god William's reflexs are quick and he jump forward .It missed him and the women caught it.

No apology she just walked of and let the dog go again fortunaetly it caried on and didn't come back

This infuriated me so I shouted after her

GET THAT B£$%^Y THING ON A LEAD BEFORE IT DOES SOME SERIOUS DAMAGE

The woman didin't react turn round or answer back but she must have heard a man across the road did

:rant: over William's ok it didn't actualy get hold of him and I think it upset me more than him I got home and was shaking .This was not a woman or dog I have seen before and hopefully I wont see them again

This is not a go at staffies I know some lovely ones but also know some really nasty ones and unless it is one I know am always very wary around them It is not the first dog along this strectch of gardens to have a go at William we see a tiny terrier who definetly thinks the bigger they come the harder they fall but this was the nearest we have been to him been bitten most back of when they see how big he is
 
Yow!! Some people should just not have animals. Too irresponsible for words.

Have William and his crew recovered from the horrors of the kennels? Julie
 
She will have heard you she was probably too embarrassed to respond silly woman :rant: :rant:

Thank goodness no one was hurt :sweating: :huggles: :huggles: to William :huggles: :huggles:
 
Am so glad william escaped unscathed

thank goodness he's got fast reflexes
 
oakmoorehill said:
Th woman strolled up and went to grab it thats when it went for William's throat thank god William's reflexs are quick and he jump forward .It missed him and the women caught it.No apology she just walked of and let the dog go again fortunaetly it caried on and didn't come b

:( Not again. I wish people wouldn't interfere with dogs while they are sniffing, by far the best way of setting off aggression, or indeed getting their own hand bitten :eek: :angry:

Glad to hear William was ok. :huggles:
 
This sort of thing does seem to be coming so much more common, I wonder whether it is or whether we are becoming more aware of it. Why would it become more common? Do you think the 'aggressive' type dogs are becoming more common or is it that more people have dogs and don't make the effort to learn about their communication........... I don't know, very sad anyway :(

Poor Helen, not a good start to the day :(
 
OEH said:
Why would it become more common? Do you think the 'aggressive' type dogs are becoming more common or is it that more people have dogs and don't make the effort to learn about their communication...........  I don't know, very sad anyway :(
I think there are far more aggressive 'status' breeds around. I don't remember as many back in the 70s. The ones there were belonged to people who were genuine enthusiasts for the breed, and knew how to handle them. There were some GSDs, and the occasional staffie, but we were always told to keep away from them as they were nasty (rightly or wrongly); also more people seemed to be knowledgeable about dogs, and would tell you not how to approach them; not touch them while eating or sniffing, and also which local dogs were snappy or nasty and never to stroke them.

However, a corgi friend of mine on our street was killed by a GSD back then even so I guess it did happen back then too. :( The girl in the next bed (when I was in hospital in 1974) had had her nose completely bitten off by a dog, so maybe things were as bad. I don't know :unsure:
 
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It a relieve that William is ok, so pleased all is ok...

I use to have a staff & they great dogs around kids, dogs & people so im not anti staffs, they are lovley dogs but nowadays too many dogs are inbred through greed :rant: people know these litters can be sold for quite a sum of money & its case of sod the breeding, i know of 2 litters recently where the son has bred with his mother & it was no accident either :rant: why people do this is beyond me but this is happeneing more & more... when i hear of any aggressive attack no matter what breed i think of what the owner is like, alot of the time theres is little respect, communication or understanding of the dog which is the problem...
 
Staffies see, to be quite the status symbol again at the mo. There are loads round where we live, my boys are totally paranoid when they see a staffie now.

Poor William - glad he's okay. Tiny was bitten the other day by our foster dog, a little lurcher. He's had quite a chunk taken out of his shoulder so he sends big hugs to William and you because he understands how you feel! :huggles:
 
julieleigh said:
I use to have a staff & they great dogs around kids, dogs & people so im not anti staffs,
Didn't mean to offend Staffie owners. I should explain what I mean by 'aggressive':

"Some dogs have what is know as active defense reflexes. Some have passive defense reflexes. A dog with active reflexes, when challenged, will meet that challenge with aggression. A dog with passive reflexes... will meet that challenge with a display of total submission.

If you have allowed your dog, especially one of the guarding breeds, to attain a high rank within your human/dog pack, then it is quite likely you will encourage an aggresive reaction...The way your dog reacts when it reaches full maturity is basically a culmination of what it has been allowed to get away with during the critical periods of development."

(from Think Dog by John Fisher)

I'm not saying these breeds are aggressive per se, but that when there is a tense situation, for whatever reason, they are more likely to respond to it 'actively', i.e. bark, run towards or actually bite the other dog. If the owner is inexperienced, distracted, generally lax on basic training then small incidents are far more likely to become serious ones. It's not just about socialisation too; the GSD that went for our dog this week was very well-socialised and generally safe with other dogs. However if the right combination of circumstances arises, even a well-trained, well-socialised dog from a guarding breed will initiate an attack, if it perceives it's extended family to be at threat. :(
 
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whippophile said:
Yow!!  Some people should just not have animals. Too irresponsible for words.Have William and his crew recovered from the horrors of the kennels?  Julie

Hi julie

yes they have all recovered William is now nearly back to normal with his weight and is back to his usual self the whippets bounced back pretyy quickly they do seem to be more adaptable to situations like going into kennels than William.

We are going to a wedding in a few weeks and as it is in Essex this means another stay in kennels .We have found a small kennels near to us. One that my mum used years ago it has been taken over by new people and they were happy to show us round have an outside exercise area and been only small does not have a huge number of dogs staying. The 4 whippets are booked in she's charging me per pen rather than per dog and I take my own food Zoe is going to stay with my mum . William is not going.

William is going to stay with a very nice k9 member who thinks ' Big Willie' is the best thing since slice bread to stay with her family and dogs for a couple of days

Just hope he behaves himself :- "
 
don't bare thinking about what could have happened

so pleased he's ok :huggles: :huggles:
 
Today I have spoken to a man walking a boarder terrier and warned him about the staffy. Apparently the same dog tried to attack his dog not long ago but he picked it up but the staffy then kept jumping up at him trying to get at it . He also told me that someone near to us had a jrt that was attacked by this dog and it needed 40 stitches to put it back together . The owner reported it to the police but was told because he had no independant wittnesses they could do nothing.

I also warned 2 other peple walking dogs about this dog and also my parents who exercise their dogs in the area .If the police will do nothing all we can do is make sure as many people as possible are aware of this dog
 

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