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anyway my new dog ,its a 24 inch gh xwh x collie which i kept back out of the litter but wont be used at the shows,i left it with my dad to bring on in lancashire and what a dog he is,his name is hitch not hetch are fletch and he wasnt breed by will smith :thumbsup: that one was for you di you know hetch sounds like fletch so geoff must of bred it, and i didnt buy it as my others are burnt out but theres a lot on here who proberly wished they were, there 100% and doin well so that will stop the gossip i dont need another dog as ive no more room for trophys and no competion in the unders down here, and ive took notice my dogs do everything long jump hurdles straight racin and sim one after another and theres not many dogs that do that and win as much so again THERE NOT BURNT OUT,its gossip again oh and ive not given away any dog :cheers: mark