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New laws would *allow* extreme hunting methods on “Federal sanctuaries” in Alaska

Discussion in 'General Discussions and Lounge' started by leashedForLife, Aug 26, 2018.

  1. leashedForLife

    leashedForLife Well-Known Member Registered

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    Alaska is the only state of the 50 that differentiates between SPORT & SUBSISTENCE hunters; “subsistence” is presumed to mean “need”, as in “I cannot afford to buy meat; I can afford ammo”, & thus the hunter is allowed to use hunting methods that are illegal in other states, often these methods are deemed unsporting or outright cruel.
    The creation of a new category of huntable land, owned by the Feds but administered FOR HUNTING by the state of Alaska, has only muddied the legality & jurisdiction issues.

    Among other methods that would never be permitted outside Alaska:
    - spotlighting bears or wolves IN THEIR DENS, with their young.

    - shooting swimming caribou from speedboats on the water.
    - aerial hunting of predators, particularly wolves, using helicopters & light planes.
    - shooting predators over BAIT; most controversial, using human foods, not natural foods.
    - hunting predators during their breeding seasons, thus orphaning young to die.

    More details here:
    Hunters in Alaska ask: Who has the right to tell them how to hunt?



    The use of human foods as bear-bait raises the terrible prospect of habituated bears seeking food in human communities; a hungry grizzly is perfectly capable of coming thru a house wall, to get more bacon. In autumn, a bear’s drive to find concentrated calories is intense, & they will travel many miles to reach a known or possible source of some high-fat, high calorie, delicacy.

    I find the idea of hunting any animal while they are raising their young to be absolutely repellent; this runs counter to everything I was taught, as a young hunter. No one, short of absolute starvation, should even consider killing a nursing mother, a father feeding his mate & his pups, or a hibernating bear with her cubs. :eek: That’s an outrage.

    As someone noted in the article, declaring war on predators in the so-called “Federal preserves” is intended to create an artificial game park, where only humans can prey on the game they want.
    Loss of predators is devastating to any biome; if we haven’t learned from the disaster of a predator-free Yellowstone National Park, we are hopeless eejits.
    The reintroduction of wolves had completely unexpected & extremely beneficial effects on HUNDREDS of species that we know of - & quite possibly thousands more, of whom we will never know. Everything from cutthroat trout to carrion beetles, elk to coyote, & streamside willows or cottonwoods, has profited by wolves returning.

    I hope this legislation dies aborning, but if it passes, I also hope that a lawsuit from one or more of the conservation nonprofits will kill it forever.

    - terry

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    We love watching "Life Below Zero". Channel 42, most evenings from 9pm to 11pm!
     
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    Mad Murphy Well-Known Member Registered

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    Some people will never get over their arrogance, they feel they have a right to kill anything.
    Sadly the US government will never legislate against guns and hunting they gain too much from the gun/hunting lobbies and stand to loose too much if they do. Cowards all round.
     
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    The truly bizarre thing is that Alaska is very dependent on tourists for income, & tourists spend billion$ of dollar$ in stark contrast to the mere “millions” spent by in-state & out of state hunters, every year.
    Tourists want to WATCH wildlife, not kill them, & they spend many, many times more than the hunting fraternity, whether local or visitors.

    Why the state as a whole is so willing to devastate their own wildlife popns by trying to eradicate large predators across thousands of acres of Federal land is the Q; the state Govt seems terrified of their own residents, & will not confront them with facts.
    Is re-election so important that U will put Ur state’s entire ecology at risk?... apparently, it is.
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    - terry

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