Parvo Virous

[dazgail]

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Yep!! ONLY dogs :blink:

 

[kris]

well ive had dogs that HAVE cost me a small fortune but ive happily paid it cos to me theyre MY dogs and if theyre ill or need anything then ill make sure they get it,regardless of the expense.they arent 'only dogs' to me so i see we differ in how we perceive our pets

 

[wild whippies]

i look after and care for my dogs very well

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Bit of a conflicting statement really when you say this,

Most vet fees are ridiculous....if i ever breed a litter you can be rest assured that i will be injecting the pups myself.

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If your willing to vaccinate them yourself then as far as I'm concerned, your not bothered about the possible risk of anaphylaxis (Allergic reaction which can be fatal very quickly) your not bothered about where the drugs came from, how they were transported and if there the correct drug to give your pups and this is all presuming your even competant at doing so.

Anyhow, like you say they're only dogs. Hey why bother vaccinating at all, I mean you say the pharmaceutical businesses are taking advantage of you, why don't you make a stand and not bother all together, I'm sure they'll lower their ridiculous prices the minute they hear of a few dogs dying.

Thing is Dazgail if it's the pharmaceutical companies squeezing money out of you then don't you just wonder why you can acquire the vaccines at a cheaper price? Or maybe they just screw the vets and do a good deal for the greyhound men eh?

I wouldn't mind but you end up selling these pups anyway, why don't you just add the vaccination price to your sale? :blink: For one thing taking them to the vets for their jabs and that check-up might save your arse from being sued when you sell a puppy that's at the least inadequately vaccinated and at the worse has some congenital defect that you was totally unaware of, e.g Heart murmours. The latter being a common condition in sighthounds.

Don't know why I bother posting! :wacko:

 

[rodders]

Always remember our Dels body going completely rigid after having his annual booster,the vet said 'no surprise due to lack of fatty tissue'but it put the fear of god into me. :sweating: Think i'll stick to letting the vet do the job :thumbsup: Karen

 

[dazgail]

here we go quotes, quotes, quotes, more quotes, since you don't know me please don't make any presumptions about me

 

[wild whippies]

Well you said it! :lol: Seriously Dazgail, I just want people to be fully informed before they start self-medicating their dogs.

 

[saraquele]

here we go quotes, quotes, quotes, more quotes, since you don't know me please don't make any presumptions about me

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i dont think anyone is being presumptiouse

you quite clearly stated yourself yep here goes a quote :clown: that they are ONLY dogs and you would rather put a dog down than pay a large vet bill .

so we dont have to presume what your like , you have told us yourself quite clearly :thumbsup:

tis a good job you live in the uk with the good ole N.H.S , imagine having to pay medical expenses for yourself or family :nuke:

 

[dazgail]

And they are only dogs not humans so can't see where the good ole NHS comes into the equation. Let's us analyse the quotes and look for holes, faults and mistakes.....some people are so easy

 

[dazgail]

Maybe i should have explained that i'm studying to become a veterinary surgeon

 

[nettle]

Maybe i should have explained that i'm studying to become a veterinary surgeon

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And would that be at the university of Knotty Ash? or are you serving your apprenticeship with one of them quote farmers/vets unqouto that Billy45 speaks about :clown:

Jayne

 

[dazgail]

(w00t)

 

[nettle]

Can i just conclude here to say that if people did'nt innoculate their own pup's,then the diseasis of yesteryear,like Distemper,might not have died away,like it did,and Parvo would be wiping out more litter's than could ever be imagined.With so many litter's of greyhound pup's being bred in ireland,especialy in some of the big breeding kennel's ,where sometime's up on 10 litter's could be born in one week,it is a must to keep all diseases down to a nill count,and as vet's refuse to innoculate,till pup.s are 10 week's,(though there are 2 here in the vilage where i live,who wont touch a pup till it's 14 week's now),then it's a matter of having to do you're own,like it or not,if you want you're pup's to have a better chance of survival.When you've had the heartache,of watching puppie's waste away,through dehydration,and Parvo,and seen that far away,sunkin eye staring you in the face,as if to say help me ,please,then i can promise you that it will make you think twice about not injecting, and protecting you're pup's.Add to this the fact that you will be out a small fortune not only trying to save them once they've got it,but rebuilding you're whole kennel's from almost scatch,or having a kennel that can't accomodate puppie's.For the last 11 year's or so,ive done all my own innoculating,with no side effect's or losses.(Is that so wrong)Some might say,that i do it to save money,in fact it has been said.But concidering the fact that to innoculate my pup's,mean's another 4 week's feeding,cleaning,and looking after,noise nuisance to neighbour's with the chance off complaint's,as i live in a small private estate.The chance of a pup breaking a leg,and having to pay vet bill's,+buying a load extra bedding,worm tab's etc.I can assure you,im out a hell of a lot more money than im saving.I don't charge a lot for my pup's,and have been asked why i sell them so cheap,as to some other's.(This was by people who bought from me).I dont breed for monetary purposes,as my only reason for breeding is for a few pup's of my own.Unfortunately,we can't determin just how many pup's we ger in a litter,so the surplus have to be sold on,or PTS imediately.My aim is to give the new owner's the best chance in the world of getting their pup's reared to adulthood.If this mean's im out of pocket,then so be it.I have a good name in doing a pup,and one that i hope to keep.I dont do it for me,but as i said,i have a duty to the little live's that i was responsible for bringing into the world,and that mean's doing thing's that maybe should'nt be done .In responce to summit Kris said.I had a bitch,who was 10 day's overdue,and the vet tried to tell me she was'nt in labour,when i new she was.He gave her summit,thiough i did'nt know what.12 midnight,i had to rush her to a different vet,as she was almost dead.The other vet pupped the bitch a few minute's later,after administrating oxytocin.Let's remember here ,that we only have wee small country practice's ,compared to what you would find in most part's of england,and they know nothing about running dog's.Most are also farmer's ,and would just love to see the end of lurcher's.

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So what are you implying Billy? These vet/farmers who administer the innoculations and (quote) Summit, though I don't know what (unquote) are intentionally giving our lurchers the wrong medication.

That is a very strong accusation to make Billy! Or have I miss read what your saying?

ps. What do you charge for your pups Billy?

Jayne

pps. Dr Shipman comes to mind after reading your post Billy (w00t)

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Hurry up and put that christmas tree up Billy45, I would like a reply please -_- TIMBERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR :lol:

A very festive Jayne

 

[nettle]

(w00t)

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[saraquele]

please explain why you say " only dogs " surely if you are studying to be a vet then you should also have compassion ?????

dogs should be part of your family , they feel pain , hurt and are a LIFE not "just a dog" in my eyes that is .

i am not a wealthy person but god forbid if anything happend to mine i would use my last penny to make sure they got the best treatment .

i dont agree with prolonging life when it would cause suffering , i would and have ,had dogs put a dog to sleep when there quality of life is affected but i have broken my heart every time even though i knew it was the right thing to do .

how will you deal with your patients when they lose a dear and loyal friend ? will you turn round and tell them to stop crying as its "just a dog " ?

im sorry but i hate that remark , i rarely get involved in these type of disputes but when someone says "only a dog " that does get to me .

do you not love your dogs ? do you not care about there welfeare ? do you not see them as part of your family and want to do all you can to give them a happy life or a fighting chance instead of just having them put to sleep just because they are not worth you spending your money on ?

 

[~Helen~]

This is going off the original topic of Parvo Virus and could be getting a bit personal, so I'm going to close the thread now.

However, I am going to link it into FAQ because it's been an interesting discussion with lots of information and pointers to other sources (thanks Jac :thumbsup: )