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[doris]

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:luck: get well soon poorly dogs

this show stuff gets more daunting as time goes on :wacko:

when I finally (possibly/hopefully) join you all, I have to make sure that:

1. My dog hasn't recently been, or currently is, ill (I wouldn't take a sick dog there anyway!)

2. That I stay away from other people who's dogs may have been, or currently is, ill

3. That the judge likes my dog's type

4. That the judge likes my dog's colour

and that's assuming I find a nice pup who gets to show age with his teeth and testicles where they should be :- "

seriously though, what precautions can you take to cut down the risk of your dog picking up a 'nasty'?

 

[05whippet]

Glad Harriet is feeling a little better today.  I too think its disgusting to take a poorly dog to a show just because you think you MIGHT win something, I hope I never get that desperate.
05Whippet, If my young dogs were coming home from half the shows with upset stomachs I would question weather it was a bug.  Are they having a lot of treats at the show or different food?

I do tend to keep my dogs away a bit from other dogs at shows, that way I may not catch anything and wont pass anything on unknowingly either.

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No, Karen they get nothing different at all and they are perfectly healthy dogs,it just seems to be that at some of the bigger shows they sometimes come back with loose tummies, and it is always only the young ones,when they get older they seem to grow out of it.I have to say it is'nt seriously bad but I have noticed a big difference in them if I try and keep them away from other dogs,I used to let them play with the others but that was when we had the trouble.So from the powers of deduction (and it did'nt take a genius to work it out) when they had a lot of contact with other dogs they SOMETIMES got tummy bugs and if we restricted the contact they NEVER did.

 

[05whippet]

Hope Woody feels better soon

 

[doris]

it is always only the young ones,when they get older they seem to grow out of it.I have to say it is'nt seriously bad but I have noticed a big difference in them if I try and keep them away from other dogs,I used to let them play with the others but that was when we had the trouble.So from the powers of deduction (and it did'nt take a genius to work it out) when they had a lot of contact with other dogs they SOMETIMES got tummy bugs and if we restricted the contact  they NEVER did.

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could this be an excitment/anxiety thing?

when mine were younger, or even now, too much excitment sometimes caused upset tummies

Sunny used to get an upset tummy if we moved the furniture to decorate! :unsure:

 

[whippetmad]

glad to hear Harriet is alot better :huggles: :huggles:

 

[louisetope]

Poor old Harriet and Woody. Hope they both pick-up really soon. Fingers crossed, my four will be OK.

I remember Murray picking up Kennel Cough at Bournemouth 5 years ago. It triggered his chronic rhinitis from which he has suffered ever since! And just to verify that point - if you ever see Murray (my fawn and white particolour dog) having a sneeze and/or cough, he's not contagious - he's just full of snot !!!

Course, the problem with Kennel Cough and similar viruses is that your dog can have it and be contagious and you don't even know it because the symptoms haven't shown up yet.

Never mind, there will always be the selfish ones who put more importance on a rosette than on a dog's health!

Take care all

Louise

 

[05whippet]

it is always only the young ones,when they get older they seem to grow out of it.I have to say it is'nt seriously bad but I have noticed a big difference in them if I try and keep them away from other dogs,I used to let them play with the others but that was when we had the trouble.So from the powers of deduction (and it did'nt take a genius to work it out) when they had a lot of contact with other dogs they SOMETIMES got tummy bugs and if we restricted the contact  they NEVER did.

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could this be an excitment/anxiety thing?

when mine were younger, or even now, too much excitment sometimes caused upset tummies

Sunny used to get an upset tummy if we moved the furniture to decorate! :unsure:

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Could well be Doris I never thought of that? but then if I take them to the same shows and just restrict their contact with the other dogs it seems to do the trick,and yet they play,meet and greet with other dogs out on their walks and at the beach and ringcraft and that does'nt seem to affect them?? Incidently it is only the really big shows that it seems to happen at,where there are an awful lot of dogs,it does'nt happen at the smaller ones or the open shows or ringcraft either?? :wacko: :wacko: but I think I will stick with just keeping them away from other dogs at the shows as so far this seems to have worked :thumbsup:

Are'nt dogs weird :blink:

 

[doris]

Are'nt dogs weird  :blink:

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I guess they are :lol:

 

[Vanna]

I think all our entry forms say six weeks - which seems rather excessive. I must admit that it's quite a while since actually read the declaration that I blythly sign every time I enter for a show, but that's certainly what it used to say.

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I've just checked and the entry form says "I/We also undertake .... not to bring to the Show any dog which has contracted or been knowingly exposed to any infectious or contagious disease during the 21 days prior to the Show." Ok it isn't 6 weeks - that was excessive, but we all sign the declaration. The key bit, I suppose is "knowingly exposed". It's perfectly possible not to know that your dog has been exposed/infected - who knows what bugs there are where many dogs are walked, and as someone said earlier, viruses can be airborne. Despite that it is clear that there are some irresponsible people who will put the chance of a rosette before health.

I'm going to get off my hobby horse now. The most important thing is that I've still got Harriet. And I hope Woody and the others will be OK soon.

 

[Lima]

Interesting and worrying

Keeping your dogs away from others at a show can barely help when the judge puts their fingers in the mouth of every exhibit !

Don't take a sick OR a vulnerable dog, or a dog with vulnerable companions at home, or ..............

 

[05whippet]

Interesting and worryingKeeping your dogs away from others at a show can barely help when the judge puts their fingers in the mouth of every exhibit !

Don't take a sick OR a vulnerable dog, or a dog with vulnerable companions at home, or ..............

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I shall finish that statement for you then,shall I? .................Just dont go anywhere near shows!! :- " It is very sad that there are a few out there that feel so strongly about winning that they will trail out a sickly dog,which surely because it is feeling ill will NOT be looking nor feeling it's best anyway??

 

[whippynit]

Glad Harriet is feeling better :thumbsup: :huggles:

 

[JAX]

Poor Harriet Hope she got lots of extra cuddles :huggles: pleased shes on the mend Vanna

 

[~JO~]

I remember Murray picking up Kennel Cough at Bournemouth 5 years ago.  It triggered his chronic rhinitis from which he has suffered ever since!  And just to verify that point - if you ever see Murray (my fawn and white particolour dog) having a sneeze and/or cough, he's not contagious - he's just full of snot !!!

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:lol: :lol: The same goes for Stan, if anyone see's him sneezing, backward sneezing or hacking coughing - don't worry he isn't contagious either!!!

 

[beaker]

Glad harriet is feeling a wee bit better :huggles:

i remember going to a 'talk' on canine fertility issues by Keith Shea a bit back, he basicly said that he came accross more fertility problems in dogs that are regularily campained at shows and other events than dogs that don't. he suggested this may be down to these dogs having more challenges put upon their immune system.

whether he was right or wrong it did make me wonder what germs and nasties 'Kim and Aggie' would find at a show if they came along with their swabs and test kits

BTW after scaring us he tried selling us all his products like bench sprays and antibac powders <_<

despite being a bit miffed that i had paid to listen to basicly a sales pitch in the second half of his talk, the first half was quite thought provoking

 

[Seraphina]

Glad harriet is feeling a wee bit better  :huggles:
i remember going to a 'talk' on canine fertility issues by Keith Shea a bit back, he basicly said that he came accross more fertility problems in dogs that are regularily campained at shows and other events than dogs that don't. he suggested this may be down to these dogs having more challenges put upon their immune system.

BTW after scaring us he tried selling us all his products like bench sprays and antibac powders  <_<

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Firstly I am sure that owners of top winning show dogs with fertility problem are more likely to seek a professional help than a pet owner who just wanted a litter and the bitch missed. Secondly, animals as well as humans need to be exposed to bugs in order to develop healthy immune system. So to be overly conscientious about cleanliness can be counter productive.

I've just checked and the entry form says "I/We also undertake .... not to bring to the Show any dog which has contracted or been knowingly exposed to any infectious or contagious disease during the 21 days prior to the Show." 

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That sounds reasonable, as most illnesses would have incubation period of less than that. Most infections are most infectious before and then during the time the animal (or human) are ill, not once the infection is beaten. Unless it is an illness which can be carried without showing symptoms.

I have to admit I am reluctant to go to shows when I have pups on the ground, and if there is a show I absolutely cannot miss, I strip on arrival and have a shower, and put on clean clothing before I go to the puppy room. With such a large number of dogs it would be surprising if there were not bugs in a large concentration.

If I would see dogs at a show coughing I would not hesitate to report them, as it is extremely selfish and potentially dangerous to everybody else's dogs present.

 

[abbey]

When we were at Crufts a couple of years back the people in the next bench to us had a little PRT, who had been in the Vets for 2 days with severe V+D, he had been on a drip and was still an ill looking little dog, yet they travelled from Scotland with this poor little soul, freshly off his drip and having to give him antibiotics 3 times a day just to go to a show! They asked me what i thought of how he was and i advised at 9am that he should be taken to the Vet as he was still dehydrated in my opinion, they kept trying to pour water down him which he sicked back up. He lay on the benches all day, he shivered and felt very hot, they had several times where he was caught short passing mucous covered faeces which was an odd colour, eventually having showed him, (by now it was 1pm) i persuaded them to go and get the Show Vet who on seeing him immediately put him back on a drip. I cant for the life of me understand why some people dont put their animal first..luckily he was fine and as far as i know whatever he had didnt seem to spread..but it could have been a very different outcome. :unsure:

 

[beaker]

Firstly I am sure that owners of top winning show dogs with fertility problem are more likely to seek a professional help than a pet owner who just wanted a litter and the bitch missed.  Secondly, animals as well as humans need to be exposed to bugs in order to develop healthy immune system.  So to be overly conscientious about cleanliness can be counter productive.

didn't say i agreed with him on the fertility issue, infact i thought the exact same things as you, :thumbsup: keeping any animal (or person) in a sterile environment will leave their immune system unchallenged, weak, and unprepared.

i grew up climbing trees, making mud pies and i'm as fit as a butchers dog, my mates who's parents wouldn't let them out of the house and went balistic if they got dirty all suffer some complaint, asthma/hayfever/constant colds etc

but at what level does necessary immune challenge become a potential overload?

 

[Seraphina]

I have to admit I am reluctant to go to shows when I have pups on the ground, and if there is a show I absolutely cannot miss, I strip on arrival and have a shower, and put on clean clothing before I go to the puppy room. 

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(w00t) :lol: I meant on arrival back home :b

 

[Gill Andrew]

Woody is still pretty poorly. Although he has stopped vomiting since having a jab at the vets, he is steadfastly refusing to even think of food - not chicken, turkey, fish or eggs (not all at the same time - just trying to tempt him to take at least one bit of food). Has anyone else any brilliant ideas to try and get at least one small feed into him. If he carries on refusing anything at all, he will have to go onto a drip by tomorrow. I am now getting seriously worried - Woods has never had a problem like this before. Normally if he has eaten something disgusting, he throws up and then immediately demands a "proper" meal.

Had hoped to go to Aylesbury on Saturday but this is now out of the question. Hope all who go have a really good day.

Gill