Puppy injections v homeopathic nosodes

[Alfiesmum2]

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I have recently reserved a Shih tzu male puppy, the breeder does not have pups injected but relies on nosodes for pups protection. Do any members here have experience of this, as I am a little nervous about it. I have read some reports which seem to support it, I just need reassurance really, thanks

 

[gypsysmum2]

You are right to be nervous. There is no scientific evidence that nosodes work. I, personally, would book the puppy in to your vet to start the vaccine regime as soon as you can. Your puppy may not have inherited any maternal immunity from its mother if she is only protected by nosodes.

If you decide to vaccinate, it makes life a little difficult for you because it is best not to vaccinate during a stressful time. The change of homes will be stressful for your puppy.

If you wait for your puppy to settle in and relax it delays the vaccinations and that delays the time that you can take your puppy to public places where it may encounter unvaccinated dogs. This will affect the socialisation process which is vitally important and has a window of up to 12/14 weeks of age. After that time a fear period kicks in and socialisation becomes difficult. You then end up with a fearful dog and that can, sometimes, lead to aggression.

I do not mean to scare you but it is best to be aware of all the issues you may be facing.

You might like to ring your veterinary practice and ask their opinion on bringing home a puppy from a nosode protected mother. You may need to take extra precautions.

Your breeder will probably have told you that he/she has never encountered any problems. This is because of "herd immunity". All the dogs that they encounter are probably vaccinated. It is this herd immunity that is protecting the breeder's dogs not the nosodes.

 

[Alfiesmum2]

Many thanks for your reply, you have said all the things that bothered me. I have four weeks before pup is ready to come home, so I will speak to the vet and see their recommendations. It could be all quite fine, and nothing to worry about, but it's the fear of the unknown I suppose and I certainly do not want to put his health at risk. Once again, many thanks.

 

[JoanneF]

If his vaccinations are delayed (actually, even if they aren't), it would be a great investment to buy a cat carrier box. You can use it to take him places so he is getting experience of the world while still isolated and protected from other dogs.

 

[gypsysmum2]

Yes, great idea for JoanneF

You can of course to anywhere that contains vaccinated dogs and they can visit you.

Would the breeder allow you to visit and pop your puppy along to the local vet for the first vaccination?

 

[dogmatize]

Hello. Have a look at " drjeandoddspethealthresource.tumblr.com "

Here you will find a wealth if articles about pet health. She is regarded as the foremost expert on vaccination protocols. One if her articles covers the use of nosodes.

 

[Alfiesmum2]

Thanks to all replies, I can't visit pup as the distance is too great, and as a non driver I have to rely on others for transport. I will look at drjeandodds site, I have been looking up sites for info, but they mainly say it's up to you as a new owner, obviously I want to protect my puppy, but I want to be confident that I'm doing what's best for him. Once again many thanks.

 

[gypsysmum2]

Dr Dodd's site is huge so I will tell you that she says there is no evidence to support homeopathic nosodes being effective at preventing disease.

This is only my personal opinion but I think that some breeders use nosodes because the expense of vaccinating a number of dogs is prohibitive. If you are getting an unvaccinated puppy then do make sure that the price reflects this. Another breeder may include the first vaccination and health check in the price you pay.

 

[Alfiesmum2]

Just an update, have spoken with vet, she recommends having injections, so will be taking Alfie for first one in Feb. A little late, but we won't be going out til weather better. Many thanks for replies and advice, much appreciated.

 

[gypsysmum2]

It is essential that you go out with your puppy. With delayed vaccination I would look into getting a puppy sling to carry her out and about. A carrier, as used by cats, with wire all around is also a good solution to your problem. You can take your puppy to public places, on buses etc to get the essential socialisation process started.

A dog that does not get to see the world, it will be expected to live in, before the age of 12/14 weeks will almost certainly be fearful of it. Fear leads to aggression and all sorts of other problems.

Alongside trips outside, you can invite friends with their vaccinated dogs to visit you. You can visit places where the dogs are vaccinated. A well run Puppy Socialisation Class will be held in a safe environment. Most people bless the day they enrolled in theirs. Look at the APDT website for a trainer near you.

I cannot stress enough how important this is