Seasons

[sherry]

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dont know if ive asked this b4 i probably have but anyway i cant find it lol

when a bitch has a season and u say oh shes say 5 weeks from season is that from the begining or the end of her season?

do u keep the bitch off 12 weeks from the end of her season or 12 weeks in total? providing of course u keep the bitch off the 12 weeks.

the reason i ask is becoz over the past 2 weeks 2 people have told me they go from the begining of the season and 2 people have said the end so just wondering wot everyones views on this was?

we go from the begining of the season btw

 

[sadieandco]

We go from the end of the season

We roughly say at 9 weeks out (our way lol) you would expect them to be at their worst from season and then begin to see some improvement from then onwards at 12 weeks things should be looking better and hopefully by the time 16 weeks out should hopefully have them back to fairly good fitness.

Just the way we look at it - now others will have different ideas and tell me i'm totally wrong - as i might well be and this is just a rough guide as i think each bitch is different anyway - i would say most run really well just before they break others say theirs go flat and some can have a few weeks good running straight out and others dont - so really you have to see how your own dog is :- "

 

[milly]

We go from the end of the season 
We roughly say at 9 weeks out (our way lol) you would expect them to be at their worst from season and then begin to see some improvement from then onwards at 12 weeks things should be looking better and hopefully by the time 16 weeks out should hopefully have them back to fairly good fitness. 

Just the way we look at it - now others will have different ideas and tell me i'm totally wrong - as i might well be and this is just a rough guide as i think each bitch is different anyway -  i would say most run really well just before they break others say theirs go flat and some can have a few weeks good running straight out and others dont - so really you have to see how your own dog is  :- "

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I think you're spot on :thumbsup:

Sugar Mouse won the NNWRF 40lb yearling champs up Scotland and she flew ,2 days later she broke down.

Pennysworth won the 40lb Scottish Derby,and broke down a week later

 

[sherry]

yeah our little bitch crackin whizz ran brill 2 days b4 she broke last time. do u go from the begining or the end fletch?

 

[marion]

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Can I ask......???

are you talking about keeping a bitch away from racing for 12 weeks????

Or just major competition??

Sorry i'm fairly new to racing and my only bitch is very young but I thought you only kept them away till dogs were not interested any more??? :teehee:

 

[sadieandco]

:- "  Can I ask......???

are you talking about keeping a bitch away from racing for 12 weeks????

Or just major competition??

Sorry i'm fairly new to racing and my only bitch is very young but I thought you only kept them away till dogs were not interested any more??? :teehee:

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No we personally dont keep ours away for 12 weeks (others may?) after the bitch has dried up (dogs no longer interested ) we usually bring back and see how they race if they run ok we run for first few weeks, then lay off if we see signs of the bitch loosing fitness or showing signs of milk and again this differs from each bitch some run really well straight out others don't again you will know by your own bitch at the time )

 

[jinx and rubys mum]

So my jinx is in season at the moment she has been for 2 weeks but shes dried up now so we thought wed go back to the racing next week when the boys are no longer interested.

Is this too soon?

She was running brilliantly winning everything and then the day before she broke she was crap no concentration and giving up before the line even though she was in with a chance,couldnt understand it.

Is there no way to stop the break if you are not breeding this time round?

 

[sadieandco]

A season lasts roughly 21 days can be longer but if dried up aftr 21 days should be ok.

A break can be stopped by using seasonal suppressants but as i have never personally done this i wouldn't like to give advice on what to use etc. )

 

[Karen-Coral]

A season lasts roughly 21 days can be longer but if dried up aftr 21 days should be ok.
A break can be stopped by using seasonal suppressants but as i have never personally done this i wouldn't like to give advice on what to use etc.  )

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I agree with this post but must add all bitches are very different some may bleed a lot longer some shorter i have one that has just had nearly four weeks --

i have found that with the first season bruising can often happen running the bitch freely the week after the season---

this happened o my bitches at least three times ----

i always go from end of season because i can not understand any one saying they are three weeks out if they are still in season---

therefore it makes more sense to me to say after the finish season they are 2-3-4=ect weeks out---

The way i work things out is i usually reckon the a biych is ready to stand on or around the 11th day of her season give or take a couple of days ------i then allow 63 days and reckon she would be having pups if i had linned her so she would be getting ready to produce milk for them and this is her worst time for bruising as she may have milk--- rest for a couple of weeks then watch her improve her performance---16 weeks and if a six month bitch she should be flying

steve---

ps i have never stopped a bitch having a season ---nature knows best---

as many have found out after trying to suppress--there bitches---its not an illness!!

 

[Vicky]

I count from out of season exactly as it says, don't understand how a bitch can be five weeks out of season if for 3 weeks of those she was in season = she's been out 2 weeks.

Cara was running great leading up to the Scottish Derby, the first day she ran abismal and the day after she broke, she came out of season running well up to 5 weeks out, she's had a few weeks rest and will try her in opens again about 12 weeks providing she seems sound, this is her first season so we have followed her lead, the little sod hasn't been phased by it in the slightest though.

 

[billyboy45]

In the greyhound world,if you can time it right with a bitch,and get her in a good race ,money wise.Then they will run a flyer.About 5 day's before ,right up to the break.At 17 week's after the 1st day of their season,you should be putting the kettle on,so to speak.Alway's great,if it's just in nice time for Chistmas.Iwould give them a race at 12,13,and 14 week's,knowing they are about 4/5 length's short.Then at 17,with their sock's off,they should be looking after Daddy Christmas.If not,someone need's a kick up the ass,and it's not the bitch.

 

[jinx and rubys mum]

Ok sound advice there

So running a bitch isnt quite as straight forward as I thought!!!

BTW I would never suppress the season in Jinx she is our pet first and foremost I just wondered if it was done!!

She had a litter of pups in May and started running in August and was fantastic for 6 weeks up to her break so Ill just have to start counting the weeks and adjusting training accordingly.

Might have known that men would have it easier in the canine world as well!!!!!! (w00t)

 

[jinx and rubys mum]

Right now im confused

Not difficult I hear you say

How many seasons a year do whippets have as a rule?

Just been in the pub(no never!!!) chatting with grey hound racers and greyhounds have one season a year which is why they can let them rest for 12 weeks as they have the other 9 months to go at.

Jinx has 2 a year so thats only 6 months she can run for and 2 of them the ground is too hard up here, Is this normal?

 

[Fleesh]

6 monthly, 9 monthly, 12 monthly they're all normal. :thumbsup: Ask some people on here they'll tell you about 5 monthly or even 4 monthly bitches, enough to make you want to tear your hair out.

 

[sherry]

ours is 8 monthtly well thats wat she went b4 1st & 2nd season

 

[jml]

our bitch is 20 months and yet to c a season is this normal

 

[sherry]

perfectly normal our kez was 20 months b4 her 1st season and shee 8 monthly i know of a bitch that was 4 b4 she had her 1st season all is normal

 

[jml]

:- " thats okay then just thought oh when is she gonna come in all my others have come in earlier than this before and am needing this season in the hope that she quietens down abit,(not to much though)

thanks

 

[sherry]

just bumping this topic back up but with a slightly different question, well i have prob already asked it lol anyway u have a bitch in season ( her 1st one) when wud u race her? i know u dont the 3 weeks shes bleeding and the fourth week also but when wud u personally race her and when wud u keep her off? very interested in this please and when u have ran them 2/3/4 or wotever weeks out how have they ran?

 

[Karen-Coral]

I have always raced mine as soon as they have dried up Blood that is ---but in first time breakers they tend to bruise up in milk glands then you need to get out the witchazel and cotton wool for a week or so i may be wrong but i am only going off what i have experienced myself if you have six month bitches they would never get a race any other way--

steve