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[alfyn]

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I know you are annoyed Firemansam, and I'm sorry about that, but I think you and others in your position have to look at things from the the other side of the coin too.
It is easy to see why whippet breeders get upset over this sort of thing. Let's face it, they spend a lot of time and effort (and money) campaigning their dogs at shows, travelling the length and breadth of the country to make a name for their kennel. Similarly racers spend a lot of time racing and campaigning their whippets too. Once their dogs have earned a title, or show a lot of potential, then they finally decide to breed a litter to pick another promising youngster for themselves or to continue the line, or occasionally to see a little reward for all their efforts and to plough something back into all the outlay they have incurred.

It doesn't mean to say that someone can't breed from a pet, for the pleasure of having some pups and seeing them go onto good homes or because it may be deemed as beneficial. However, one can't help but start to question someone's motives when there is clearly a trend starting, which is what has happened here. 

Sorry...I know this wasn't asked for (and it is really none of my business), but as I say, it's worth standing back, and looking at things from a different viewpoint from time to time.

Oh dear..I'm going to be classed as a trouble maker now ....and usually I try not to judge or criticize where I don't know the full circumstances. This goes very much against the grain. Sorry! :b

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Very well said Nicola, i agree totally, only breeding when i want a puppy myself, i am with you on this one. Sorry if you take offence Firemansam.

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Yes,i am in FULL agreement too :thumbsup:

I just cannot understand anyone wanting to breed a litter & NOT keep one of the pups,unless it's purely for money,of course :angry:

& this is Not a personal dig at you,Firemansam,but i do think you have been very misguided!

 

[Indee]

Tipsy, didn't come from the same litter as Riley but, in my opinion he is a few sandwiches short of a picnic. This is a dog who can not walk up the stairs with out falling over and who thinks "good solid fun" is trying to kill his own foot. :blink: Is it really a good idea for more spawn like Riley?!?! :lol:

IMO breeding your dog for the sake of wanting another puppy is wrong, basically your going to end up with a litter of dogs where a number (be it 1-7) will be rejected by you to keep one puppy, which is all you really wanted. So instead of breeding for this one pup why not buy a puppy from a decent breeder or, better yet rehome an unwanted dog. I feel this is worse then breeding a dog that is of sound stable mind and a brilliant pet/working/show dog for the benifit of people who are looking for a brilliant pet/working/show dog.

 

[dolly]

But surely a Reputable breeder will only breed when they want one and have sufficent homes for the other pups.

My last litter (3 litters in 25 years) i had one puppy, and 7 very dissapointed people wanting a puppy, most of them are waiting to see if we have another litter.

I will only breed when i am very happy with the bitch and not because i think it will do her good,

HELEN

 

[Nicola]

IMO breeding your dog for the sake of wanting another puppy is wrong, basically your going to end up with a litter of dogs where a number (be it 1-7) will be rejected by you to keep one puppy, which is all you really wanted. So instead of breeding for this one pup why not buy a puppy from a decent breeder  or, better yet rehome an unwanted dog. I feel this is worse then breeding a dog that is of sound stable mind and a brilliant pet/working/show dog for the benifit of people who are looking for a brilliant pet/working/show dog.

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It goes without saying that there should be a reasonable demand for the remaining pups in the litter before the breeder goes ahead with their breeding program. That's the whole point really. Breeders want one to keep to further their line, but at the same time provide some nice whippets for the 'pet market' too. The two go hand in hand.

 

[Firemansam]

Of course all these goody 2 shoes people who say only have a litter because they want a pup for themselves give there remaining pups away for free to good homes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NOT....................HYPOCRITS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[dolly]

If you are referring to me , my last litter of one puppy cost me in excess of £500, would i sell him for a million,

NOT EVEN FOR TWO MILLION !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[kim & Tilly]

Of course all these goody 2 shoes people who say only have a litter because they want a pup for themselves give there remaining pups away for free to good homes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!NOT....................HYPOCRITS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Ooo will you be giving your away free then?

Cant wait to see the pics

 

[kris]

ive not had a litter for many years and i had a number of bitches id never bred from for one reason or another.its not about money or it shouldnt be. :thumbsup: its about not bringing more pups into this world when so many are needing homes as it is.i know you think folk are being hypocrites but they have the welfare of the breed at heart.do you have a waiting list for pups?and as you say you have 2 dogs and dont want any more what would happen to a pup youve bred that falls on hard times and the owner rings you up to take it back.could you?would you?if not then you really ought to think twice about bringing more pups into the world. this isnt anything personal against you fireman sam i just think theres too many dogs being bred these days and for all the wrong reasons.

 

[*Lesley*]

I'm sure we've been here before :blink: and this is not to firemansams question but from the thread replies it seems, you shouldn't breed a litter because you want a puppy for yourself but you also shouldn't breed a litter if you don't want a puppy for yourself :unsure: :wacko: so when should you breed a litter??????

It's a wonder whippets aren't extinct (w00t)

 

[Strike Whippets]

ive not had a litter for many years and i had a number of bitches id never bred from for one reason or another.its not about money or it shouldnt be. :thumbsup: its about not bringing more pups into this world when so many are needing homes as it is.i know you think folk are being hypocrites but they have the welfare of the breed at heart.do you have a waiting list for pups?and as you say you have 2 dogs and dont want any more what would happen to a pup youve bred that falls on hard times and the owner rings you up to take it back.could you?would you?if not then you really ought to think twice about bringing more pups into the world. this isnt anything personal against you fireman sam i just think theres too many dogs being bred these days and for all the wrong reasons.

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Well said Kris :thumbsup: .........Breeders only breed as said befor when they'd like a pup or 2 from that line ...........Breeders are known to give puppies away .......We were given our first Whippet by her breeder as she wanted us to show her and keep the line going (unfortunatly Joanna hated showing and we NEVER bred from her even though we had 11 people wanting a pup from her :- " ) ..........Miya was also given to me by her breeder and dear friend as Julia likes to see her puppies even though she had a waiting list :thumbsup: .....plus she knew I liked Miya from first born :wub: .........

I think the problem is you only seem to come on here when you want some info on a dog, then you bombard us with photos of puppies whilst trying to sell them :blink: ..........I also wonder why you choose WCRCh ??? ........do you know their temprements, breeding, sex ??? .....do they have problems in these lines like sharpness, testical issues, light bone etc ....??? .......If your just breeding for pets then outcross as it'll save doubling up on unwanted problems (if there are any)

 

[~whitecross whippets~]

I'm sure we've been here before :blink: and this is not to firemansams question but from the thread replies it seems, you shouldn't breed a litter because you want a puppy for yourself but you also shouldn't breed a litter if you don't want a puppy for yourself :unsure:   :wacko: so when should you breed a litter??????
It's a wonder whippets aren't extinct (w00t)

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:lol: i agree! :lol: :wacko:

 

[wild whippies]

Nah can't see it myself, just had a look on epupz and there's a total of 66 whippets for sale posted in the past 11 days.

 

[kris]

my oh my!yes, certainly becoming an endangered species.still,nevermind,theres bound to be some other litters being bred somewhere else.after all,not everyone has access to pcs and not everyone advertises on epupz. :thumbsup:

 

[Seraphina]

That a bitch "needs" to have a litter is an "old wife's tale" that went out of fashion several decades ago.

Pups should be bred only if breeder has a specific goal they want to achieve by this particular mating = usually a dog that is an improvement on his/her parents, which will continue their line. Be it a show line or racing or coursing line.

People who have a pet and want second would be better of to buy another dog. It is lot simpler and could be significantly cheaper option.

If everything goes well, their bitch has normal litter of say 6 pups and they manage to place them all to good homes, and get some money for them, they are lucky. But what if the bitch needs a caesarian ( and they always need them Saturday midnight), what if she has 10 pups, what if they get the tummy infection that has been going around? The pet owners need to ask themselves if they have the thousand or two for the caesarian, are they prepared to have a large litter, and do they have facilities and time to medicate and clean up after a large litter if anything goes wrong. What about if after a bound of the tummy bug the pups are all skin and bone and the people who were interested in them change their mind? Do you have a facility, time and the money to run them on until they are back to full health?

And in the absolutely worst scenario there is always the possibilty to loose the whole litter as well as the bitch. All what is left are the vet bills.