Sloughis In Bath And Bristol

[sloughi-r]

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Hi

I just read on a couple of threads about the Sloughis bred down in the South West that were taken into rescue (didnt want to hijack either thread so thought I'd put this up new )

The first lot of Sloughis were taken from Sue Harper in 2002, a second lot in 2003 and the last of them from Jacky Saunders in 2005. They were all rehomed apart from three, 2 who were so horrendously neglected they would not have made a decent recovery and one who had such severe nervous aggression the RSPCA made the decision to have him pts. Most of the dogs were in a bad way but all made a good recovery over time.

I set up a website to help rehome these dogs in 2005, I also had a Jacky Saunders bred Sloughi who had turned up in rescue in 1999, I had no idea who or what he was at the time but found out as things unfolded. He was called Oscar and was the most amazing dog, sadly I lost him just before his 12th birthday at the end of last year to cancer. You can see his story here

http://www.sloughi-rescue.org/oscar.htm

Donna who someone mentioned is now called Belle. She was my Oscar's sister and is having a wonderful life with her family down in Cornwall. I went to stay with them last year and she is an amazing little dog :wub: Here is her story

http://www.sloughi-rescue.org/belle.htm

Bertha - I am interested that you mentioned handling the Kamet dogs in particularly Leo in the past. A dog called Leo went into rescue (although names were confused and muddled at the time), however this Leo doesnt look like the dog that other people remember being showed at the time. I wonder if you recognise him? Leo's kennel name was Kamet Xkha if that jogs your memory at all! Unfortunately this dog is one of a few that went to people who have overfed him so he may be unrecognisable anyway :unsure:

http://www.sloughi-rescue.org/leo.htm

I dont suppose you have any photos of those dogs at the shows back then do you? I have managed to get hold of a few but there seems little trace of this kennel in regards to photos and articles and it is a great shame that so much has been lost.

Thought I'd just share this information as a few people seemed interested in what had happened to these dogs ) The website gives the story of what happened to the Kamet kennel and also about some of the dogs that were rescued.

 

[bertha]

Sorry, that's not the Leo I knew, it was in the 80's and he was a pale fawn with black mask, very nervous. I used to give Sue lifts, I had to stop in the end as both she and the dogs smelt so dreadful.

She was taken to court down here in Cornwall over the state of her house and the way she kept the dogs. It was okay until her mother died, poor soul. Jackie was a very strange lady, she kept off loading dogs onto Sue.

Will continue later, my OH has just come in :lol:

 

[sloughi-r]

Sorry, that's not the Leo I knew, it was in the 80's and he was a pale fawn with black mask, very nervous. I used to give Sue lifts, I had to stop in the end as both she and the dogs smelt so dreadful.She was taken to court down here in Cornwall over the state of her house and the way she kept the dogs. It was okay until her mother died, poor soul. Jackie was a very strange lady, she kept off loading dogs onto Sue.

Will continue later, my OH has just come in :lol:

Ah ok, I missed the bit which gave the date. They must have had several Leo's over the years then! The one that is in some of the pedigrees we know of was a red sand male (and who other people remember) but was born in 97, the one who ended up in rescue must have been yet another dog with the same name as he was also a pale sand.

I'd heard that Sue had been taken to court before. I heard that Jacky was always offloading dogs onto Sue when she decided she didnt want them anymore for whatever reason. Sadly when Sue got the ban for life on keeping animals, most of the dogs in question actually were bred and belonged to Jacky and it really should have been her who was banned. As usual the RSPCA and KC did no checking into this, it was quite easy to see by the BRS that these dogs were Jackys. Allegedly Sue was told by a 3rd party that if she said the dogs were hers, nothing much would happen and it was pointless both of them getting into trouble. I dont condone the way Sue kept her dogs either but I think she was pretty stitched up in all of this. Jacky Saunders walked away from court in 2006 with a fine and no limit on how many dogs she could keep. However she has no Sloughis anymore as far as I know.

 

[Dar Khan]

Interesting stories please keep em comming ( Oscar is my fav ) they are all lovely

 

[bertha]

Back again!

Sue had Leo and his litter sister, can't remember her name, plus various others, I didn't see them all. Sadly I have no photos. Dar Khan's dog looks so like Leo, same colour. If I had been able to I would have taken him just to get him away and feed him up! I really fell for him.

I have, some where, a photo of a sloughi that Bernadette Stoneham had, lovely dog, very laid back after knowing Sue's. Such a shame, when they were all being rescued I was not in a position to take one, I did feel so sorry for the dogs.

Sue was a little simple I think, could be wrong.

We moved here on 1st Jan 1993, so it must have been back in the 80's when Sue was down here. She was banned from the coaches we used to use to get up to Ch shows because her dogs smelt so awful. I tried to help her but failed.

I know Maureen Davies who had Pharoah hounds and lived in Plymouth was up to speed on it all. Sadly she died some time ago and is really missed.

So pleased to hear Jackie has no dogs. What happened to all the dogs?

 

[Dar Khan]

Last I heard Jacky was down to three dogs and these were stolen during a break in at her place .

 

[bertha]

Last I heard Jacky was down to three dogs and these were stolen during a break in at her place .

What a shame, she bred some really nice dogs, but kept them so badly. I wonder where those three went. She really should have been banned. Her dogs hardly ever left her farm and were so nervous away from home. I used to feel really sad for them.

 

[Dar Khan]

Can we slag off Simon Cowell or somebody like him now

 

[sloughi-r]

Back again!
Sue had Leo and his litter sister, can't remember her name, plus various others, I didn't see them all. Sadly I have no photos. Dar Khan's dog looks so like Leo, same colour. If I had been able to I would have taken him just to get him away and feed him up! I really fell for him.

I have, some where, a photo of a sloughi that Bernadette Stoneham had, lovely dog, very laid back after knowing Sue's. Such a shame, when they were all being rescued I was not in a position to take one, I did feel so sorry for the dogs.

Sue was a little simple I think, could be wrong.

We moved here on 1st Jan 1993, so it must have been back in the 80's when Sue was down here. She was banned from the coaches we used to use to get up to Ch shows because her dogs smelt so awful. I tried to help her but failed.

I know Maureen Davies who had Pharoah hounds and lived in Plymouth was up to speed on it all. Sadly she died some time ago and is really missed.

So pleased to hear Jackie has no dogs. What happened to all the dogs?

I was surprised nothing was done before this decade, word has it that the RSPCA were being called regularly to Jacky's place since the 1970s, it makes my blood run cold to think how many dogs she bred and kept like that all their lives And you are right, she bred some dogs from really amazing lines too, I could never get my head round this situation and to this day cant understand the thinking behind her actions.

She surrendered all the dogs bar 6 to the RSPCA, when she was taken to court she was allowed 2 back as 'guard dogs' and the other 4 were put up for rehoming. She was also charged with 27 counts of neglect to these dogs - so why they saw fit to give two back to her is beyond me! And these two dogs were subsequently stolen. However she said that the dogs were stolen between early evening and late morning the next day so my guess is that she had put them down in the sheds again (where she was no longer living) leaving them an easy target for someone to take. If they were in the little house she is living in now she would have been aware of their whereabouts 24/7... Last time someone told me about her she was walking a little Yorkie round her village, so maybe she has this little dog as a companion in her old age, at least it should be easy for her to take care of.

I remember seeing photos of Bernadette's dog - beautiful

 

[Dar Khan]

Yadah! yadah yadah

 

[sloughi-r]

Yadah! yadah yadah

If you are not interested in welfare issues then maybe you have no need to read the thread There are many other Sloughi owners/breeders who dont care either about welfare so you are in good company with some of them

 

[Dar Khan]

You aint nothin but a Troll

 

[FeeFee]

You aint nothin but a Troll

What a very odd remark - are you disputing the facts about these dogs? I'd really suggest that if you have nothing interesting or constructive to say it might be better not to post.

As I saw some of the dogs at Bath C&DH and was involved in helping to rehome Donna/Belle via our Oldies Club website I took an interest in them at the time and followed their progress - it was very sad to see so many dogs of a relatively uncommon breed end up in rescue in such a bad physical and psychological state

 

[Dar Khan]

Just banging on about something that went on years ago .Seems to me a few of you were close to hte dogs and the people in question here and you did nothing but go on about them smelling . Cmon that is kids stuff . Or shall I put in a request for a section dedicated to ill treated dogs of all Breeds including dare i say it Whippets

 

[bertha]

Just banging on about something that went on years ago .Seems to me a few of you were close to hte dogs and the people in question here and you did nothing but go on about them smelling . Cmon that is kids stuff . Or shall I put in a request for a section dedicated to ill treated dogs of all Breeds including dare i say it Whippets

I think you should just shut up now. There is no need for you to be rude. If you continue I will report you, one minute you are okay the next you behave like a kid.

 

[sloughi-r]

Just banging on about something that went on years ago .Seems to me a few of you were close to hte dogs and the people in question here and you did nothing but go on about them smelling . Cmon that is kids stuff . Or shall I put in a request for a section dedicated to ill treated dogs of all Breeds including dare i say it Whippets

Actually I knew nothing of these people till the last lot of dogs were taken in, my interest initially was to help find homes for the dogs in rescue, pure and simple. Factual information about the dogs and people are of interest to me, especially as I believe there are still Kamet dogs out there. As I said, if it is of no interest to you then you have no need to read it or make silly comments about something you clearly know nothing about and have no interest in.

 

[Dar Khan]

Just banging on about something that went on years ago .Seems to me a few of you were close to hte dogs and the people in question here and you did nothing but go on about them smelling . Cmon that is kids stuff . Or shall I put in a request for a section dedicated to ill treated dogs of all Breeds including dare i say it Whippets

I think you should just shut up now. There is no need for you to be rude. If you continue I will report you, one minute you are okay the next you behave like a kid.

ok Bertha will shut up now ,if you promise not to put me on report :lol: