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[Kenmilquin]

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Hi every one,

I know this is a doggy site but over the few months I have known about it I have read some really good advise, so I'm hoping there will be someone that can help me now? First I should tell you this is about one of my horses so I don't know if there is any one here that has any but here's hoping.

I have got a little Dartmoor hill pony named Winnie who about threeish weeks ago fell ill due to an infection which made her quite poorly so I called the vet out and she gave her some injections and left some more antibiotics and something else and by the end of that she was fine, but due to the weight she lost I put her on some haylige and now unfortunately she has developed bad diarrhea, so I have put her back on normal hay but she had lost more weight due to the diarrhea and the diarrhea hasn't stopped so I was hoping someone might be able to suggest something that I can give her? other than this she is fine its not that shes ill again as she is fine in herself. Any help would be gratefully received, its not that I don't want to call the vet out because I will but just wondered if there was something that I could do? :'(

 

[jinnyfizz]

Hi

I keep horses and I would ask you to please, please get your vet out ASAP.

I lost my 3 month old foal last August from salmonella poisoning. It is extremely fast in a foal due to their inability to fight off infection at such a young age.

He went off suck and lost weight, all he craved was water as he was dehydrating so severely. Before long it turned to septacaemia and it took a week before he was on a drip and unable to stand up. The vet bill was nearly £4000 in total. It is heartbreaking watching them die slowly in front of your eyes

One of the things which equines don't handle well is diahorrea - they need help.

Unfortunately, it takes a week to culture the samples to diagnose the cause of infection with salmonella so you can't act too quickly if your pony has severe diahorrea.

Another possibility is severe worms but I am assuming that you have wormed her regularly and it shouldn't be that

There are numerous causes of infection which can cause severe diahorrea but, in all cases, if it continues for longer than 24 hours you should seek veterinary advice without delay :thumbsup:

Good luck and keep us posted on your little mare's progress :luck: :luck: :thumbsup:

 

[Kenmilquin]

Hi
I keep horses and I would ask you to please, please get your vet out ASAP.

I lost my 3 month old foal last August from salmonella poisoning.  It is extremely fast in a foal due to their inability to fight off infection at such a young age.

He went off suck and lost weight, all he craved was water as he was dehydrating so severely. Before long it turned to septacaemia and it took a week before he was on a drip and unable to stand up. The vet bill was nearly £4000 in total.  It is heartbreaking watching them die slowly in front of your eyes

One of the things which equines don't handle well is diahorrea - they need help.

Unfortunately, it takes a week to culture the samples to diagnose the cause of infection with salmonella so you can't act too quickly if your pony has severe diahorrea.

Another possibility is severe worms but I am assuming that you have wormed her regularly and it shouldn't be that

There are numerous causes of infection which can cause severe diahorrea but, in all cases, if it continues for longer than 24 hours you should seek veterinary advice without delay :thumbsup:

Good luck and keep us posted on your little mare's progress :luck:   :luck:   :thumbsup:

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Hi Jinnyfizz,

Thanks for the advice :huggles: , Just been down to the our yard and although she is still quite soft its not as cow patty and she is still eating and she looks brighter so Im hoping its just the damn haylege thst she had it was really wet and aparently it has been a bad year for it, but I will let you know how it goes. Oh and sorry to hear about your foal thats horrible She is due for worming anyway so I'm gonna do that as well just to be on the safe side.

Thanks karan

 

[jinnyfizz]

Oh that sounds like good news, Karan

It could well be the haylage, especially if it was made before August when it was drier :- " My neighbour made hers in a 3 day dry gap at the end of July and, quite frankly, it is way too wet although the horses seem to like it :wacko:

Hope Winnie continues to improve :thumbsup:

Jane x

 

[tinker*]

HI,

IVE DONE 3 YRS AT COLLEGE STUDYING EQUINES.

TRY A PROBIOTIC FOR HER, ALSO DRY HAY, AND DRIER FEEDS JUST TO HELP COMBINE HER FOOD. AS MUCH FIBRE AS POSSIBLE.

I THINK PINK POWDER IS SUPPOSED TO BE VERY GOOD, BUT WILL TAKE A FEW DAYS TO GET IN HER SYSTEM

GOOD LUCK :luck:

 

[Kenmilquin]

HI,
IVE DONE 3 YRS AT COLLEGE STUDYING EQUINES.

TRY A PROBIOTIC FOR HER, ALSO DRY HAY, AND DRIER FEEDS JUST TO HELP COMBINE HER FOOD. AS MUCH FIBRE AS POSSIBLE.

I THINK PINK POWDER IS SUPPOSED TO BE VERY GOOD, BUT WILL TAKE A FEW DAYS TO GET IN HER SYSTEM

GOOD LUCK  :luck:

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Cheers tinker

 

[maggiemay2]

I've used the human method of Kaolin before and it worked a treat, please do ask your vet though to confirm how much you should give your pony due to her weight.

Hope she continues to improve. Got my fingers crossed for you.

HI,
IVE DONE 3 YRS AT COLLEGE STUDYING EQUINES.

TRY A PROBIOTIC FOR HER, ALSO DRY HAY, AND DRIER FEEDS JUST TO HELP COMBINE HER FOOD. AS MUCH FIBRE AS POSSIBLE.

I THINK PINK POWDER IS SUPPOSED TO BE VERY GOOD, BUT WILL TAKE A FEW DAYS TO GET IN HER SYSTEM

GOOD LUCK  :luck:

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Cheers tinker

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[kierpark]

I Had a Warmblood X mare and she WAS very loose when i gave her haylage,

Put her back on hay and within a few days she was firm again.

Good luck with your pony :thumbsup:

 

[Kenmilquin]

I Had a Warmblood X mare and she WAS very loose  when i gave her haylage,Put her back on hay and within a few days she was firm again.

Good luck with your pony :thumbsup:

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Thanks everyone :huggles:

 

[Seraphina]

Is haylage what we call silage? I would imagine that could upset horse's stomach. If you decide to feed it to her again try to introduce it in small amounts, along of her normal feed at first. :luck:

 

[jinnyfizz]

Is haylage what we call  silage?  I would imagine that could upset horse's stomach.  If you decide to feed it to her again try to introduce it in small amounts, along of her normal feed at first.  :luck:

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No. We have silage too but that's for feeding to cattle only. Haylage is same as hay only wrapped in plastic so it stays a little moist. If it is baled and wrapped too soon it can be too wet and ferment inside the wrapping :x

If haylage is good quality it is better for the horse as it is dust free and has a better nutrient balance than dry hay :thumbsup:

 

[Kenmilquin]

Is haylage what we call  silage?  I would imagine that could upset horse's stomach.  If you decide to feed it to her again try to introduce it in small amounts, along of her normal feed at first.   :luck:

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No. We have silage too but that's for feeding to cattle only. Haylage is same as hay only wrapped in plastic so it stays a little moist. If it is baled and wrapped too soon it can be too wet and ferment inside the wrapping :x

If haylage is good quality it is better for the horse as it is dust free and has a better nutrient balance than dry hay :thumbsup:

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Hello peeps,

Just a quick up date, went down to give her another small feed at around two thirty and she had gone done hill, she had laid flat out and showed no interest in getting up and when I looked at her gums they were almost grey so amongst the tears I rang my vet and told them in no uncertain terms I needed them out NOW, they got here in thirty minutes (were in crackington haven just outside Bude and vets are in bude itself) which isn't a record but its not bad going either. IN the end they aren't sure whats wrong as temp is fine and lungs are clear of fluid which is always a relief, they have treated the symptoms Painkillers, antibiotics, wormed to be on the safe side put some cow stuff down her throat to treat for some bacteria that mud snails can spread and they have taken a blood sample after four attempts to find the vein and doing a poo sample test. but at the moment she is comfy and the vet will ring with blood result tomorrow so will give you the final verdict then. but I also just wanted to thank you all for your well wishes. )

 

[maggiemay2]

Hello peeps,

Just a quick up date, went down to give her another small feed at around two thirty and she had gone done hill, she had laid flat out and showed no interest in getting up and when I looked at her gums they were almost grey so amongst the tears I rang my vet and told them in no uncertain terms I needed them out NOW, they got here in thirty minutes (were in crackington haven just outside Bude and vets are in bude itself) which isn't a record but its not bad going either. IN the end they aren't sure whats wrong as temp is fine and lungs are clear of fluid which is always a relief, they have treated the symptoms Painkillers, antibiotics, wormed to be on the safe side put some cow stuff down her throat to treat for some bacteria that mud snails can spread and they have taken a blood sample after four attempts to find the vein and doing a poo sample test. but at the moment she is comfy and the vet will ring with blood result tomorrow so will give you the final verdict then. but I also just wanted to thank you all for your well wishes. )

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please keep us updated..... thinking of you :huggles:

 

[~Sally~]

oh no

sending hugs and healing thoughts :huggles: :luck: :huggles: :luck:

 

[jinnyfizz]

Hello peeps,

Just a quick up date, went down to give her another small feed at around two thirty and she had gone done hill, she had laid flat out and showed no interest in getting up and when I looked at her gums they were almost grey so amongst the tears I rang my vet and told them in no uncertain terms I needed them out NOW, they got here in thirty minutes (were in crackington haven just outside Bude and vets are in bude itself) which isn't a record but its not bad going either. IN the end they aren't sure whats wrong as temp is fine and lungs are clear of fluid which is always a relief, they have treated the symptoms Painkillers, antibiotics, wormed to be on the safe side put some cow stuff down her throat to treat for some bacteria that mud snails can spread and they have taken a blood sample after four attempts to find the vein and doing a poo sample test. but at the moment she is comfy and the vet will ring with blood result tomorrow so will give you the final verdict then. but I also just wanted to thank you all for your well wishes. )

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Heya Karan

I'm really worried about Winnie now, she is exhibiting exactly the same symptoms as Furby did. The lack of colour is due to lack of red blood cells & oxygen in the blood. Her vein is contracted because she is dehydrated and her blood is probably very very dark red, almost black which means it is haemolised. All symptoms of extreme dehydration

Furby's lungs were fine and he didn't run a high temperature at all. Salmonella can turn very quickly in septacaemia and then the vital organs are compromised and death follows very quickly.

I am PMing you with the name of the vet who treated Furby - they are in Holsworthy so your practice will know them.

Please don't think I am trying to alarm you but I got caught out by this infection and, quite frankly, so did my normal vet because she didn't diagnose the problem and by the time Furby collapsed it was really too late to save his life

I just don't want anyone to lose time diagnosing it because IV administration of antibiotics and a drip ASAP is the only way to help recovery.

Keeping my finger crossed for Winnie :luck: :luck: :thumbsup:

 

[Seraphina]

No. We have silage too but that's for feeding to cattle only.  Haylage is same as hay only wrapped in plastic so it stays a little moist.  If it is baled and wrapped too soon it can be too wet and ferment inside the wrapping :x
If haylage is good quality it is better for the horse as it is dust free and has a better nutrient balance than dry hay :thumbsup:

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Thanks for that . It is a long time since I had a horse, about 25 years (w00t) ! I was wondering about the wisdom of feeding horse silage. :b

Hope Winnie will get better soon :luck: :luck: :luck: :luck: :luck: :luck: :luck:

 

[Kenmilquin]

No. We have silage too but that's for feeding to cattle only.  Haylage is same as hay only wrapped in plastic so it stays a little moist.  If it is baled and wrapped too soon it can be too wet and ferment inside the wrapping :x

If haylage is good quality it is better for the horse as it is dust free and has a better nutrient balance than dry hay :thumbsup:

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Thanks for that . It is a long time since I had a horse, about 25 years (w00t) ! I was wondering about the wisdom of feeding horse silage. :b

Hope Winnie will get better soon :luck: :luck: :luck: :luck: :luck: :luck: :luck:

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Hello everyone,

Just got the bloods back and although they aren't one hundred percent sure they think its either a infection that's started to take hold of her and the haylage has given her diarrhea and because she had lost the weight to start with she couldn't fight this one off her herself. or its this bacteria that they can catch from mud snails but what ever it is they have given her antibiotics for a week and then if she is 100% then they will give her this cow stuff to get rid of the bacteria and more antibiotics and go from there but hopefully she should be on the mend. I want to say a massive thank you to everyone that has offered advise and there well wishes it made a worring time that bit more bearable. so from me and the gang :huggles: :huggles: :wub: :wub:

 

[jinnyfizz]

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Phew! Glad they have it under control, Karan!

:huggles: :huggles: for Winnie :thumbsup:

 

[Kenmilquin]

:thumbsup:   :thumbsup:   Phew! Glad they have it under control, Karan!

:huggles:   :huggles: for Winnie :thumbsup:

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Will do jane and :huggles: :huggles: back from her too

 

[whippetmad]

Awwwwwwww glad she going to be ok :huggles: :huggles: