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This is a subject that a lot of people feel very strongly about and may not want to reply to, in case of getting into an argument.

I can only speak of my own experience and it isn't to do with Whippets or racing. Chloe was 2 when speyed and i made the decision to have her done because she was coming into season every 4 months and having bad phantom pregnancies. It is easier for her to put on weight but i have managed this by slightly decreasing her food and making sure she is properly exercised (she goes on bike rides with my husband as extras). She is no heavier now than before she was speyed.

Molly had mammary (and probably other in the end) cancer and the likely hood of her getting this if she had been speyed would have been a lot less. However, all unspeyed bitches don't get mammary cancer do they?

It's about weighing up the pro's and con's for YOU and TILLY. Take in information but make the decision that feels right for you. :thumbsup:
 
i have had 7 spayed bitches most still with me and only one of them I had to watch her weight but she had a bit of a weught issue even before she was spted infacet her old owner said he got her at 12 week and she was the only pup he had ever seen with a fat ars. Non of the others have put any weight on at all aslong as they get enghe exrcise and arent over feed they will be fine as with racing the only one of mine that does any is my lurcher and shes started slowing down a bit now as shes turned 6 but she was spayed at 2 after she had 3 seson and she never sllwed down at all.

Take your time do some reserch and you will work out whats right for you and tilly
 
:- " We had our little bitch spayed as she had phantom pregnancies and each time they got worse and worse and worse, until the final one looked like it was brewing up for pyo, so we had it removed before she became sick. But remember, when you remove the hormones, you take away the 'edge' that bitches have in the run up to their season, so essentially, your bitch is running like a dog, and with the same disadvantage against bitches coming into season, when we all know they fly!! Interestingly, she was a 'six monther' - exactly. First season at six months of age and got increasingly worse with each one. The vet told me that in her experience that is the pattern for early starters. We intended to wait until she was at least 2 years old, and fully developed, but couldn't wait that long because of the risk to the dog, but I believe that waiting as long as poss is good for the dog, it gives her time to develop and fill out before being made into an old woman so to speak. I give mine soya isoflavines daily, to try to give her back some of the female hormone, even if it is plant form, just the same as we older women who take it for the menopause. I dont know if it works, but I feel better for giving it to her!!!

As for the weight gain, my research indicated that reducing the food by 20% per day keeps the bitch at/around her normal body weight. It doesn't seem so bad if you feed a BARF diet, but if you feed a complete diet then one can seem very mean indeed. And when one thinks of a reduction in food of one fifth, and the effect it has upon the body and matabolism, then maybe spaying is not something to be entered into lightly ...... (rather like marriage really!). :wacko:
 
I have recently come across an interesting article about desexing. FINALLY, it addresses pretty much all the concerns I had about desexing, and desexing too young. The only thing is that when the author recommends waiting until 14 months, I assume he is talking about breeds that mature sexually at 6 - 9 months, not sighthounds. I recommend my puppy buyers to wait till 2.5 years.

neuter
 
Should i wait till racing is over ? how long will she take to recover and be able to race again






How long until they recover?? If Molly is anything to go by, I'd say about 6 hours!!!

When we picked her up from the vets she looked absolutely pathetic and I really regretted having it done :( she looked so sad and she wouldn't walk. The nurse brought her out wrapped in a big towel which they had been putting in the microwave to keep her warm :wub: I was so worried about her I decided to sleep on the settee with her in her bed next to me (I was convinced she was going to pull her stitches out and we couldn't get one of those lampshade things to fit her).

Anyway, up until switching the light off she hadn't moved. Then she came to life and kept me up all night whizzing about like a mad woman :lol:

Answering the other questions, I don't know about how it will affect her racing and also whether she will gain weight or not is anyones guess. Molly lost a lot of weight andd also looks like a toast rack (love the description Rae!!).

One point, which will not affect Tilly as she has already had a season, is the fact that if they are speyed early they might not mature fully. We had Molly done at 9 months and she is still very puppy like (but she is very mature when she is bossing Lenny about now :lol: ). I do quite like her being like this though o:)

Good luck with whatever you decide to do :luck:
 
Most whippets have a bad first season IMO . just like us girls did when we were young. You will find that all other seasons are fine .

I personnally would nt have her spayed .Do you have males too ?

your decision 8)
 
JAX said:
Most whippets have a bad first season IMO . just like us girls did when we were young. I personnally would nt have her spayed  .Do you have males too ?

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You mean as YOU got old they got better - or have you been speyed too?

Other than that I am with you 100% :cheers: :huggles: :cheers: but have been refraining from posting :oops: :thumbsup: :oops:
 
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please dont fel you cant post as all opionons are needed to make an informed deciesion

I dont have any males no, just two girls
 
I think having her spayed is a very good idea if you don't intend to breed from her.

I would have thought it could only benefit her racing since she won't have to have a lay off while in season since she won't be able to come into season.

These days the operation isn't considered major at all and in fact most bitches recover more quickly and easily than boys when they are castrated,mostly due to the location of the stitching.

Spaying does NOT make dogs fat. Overfeeding makes dogs fat.

If a dog is neutered its food intake should be reduced by twenty percent.

My boxer bitch was spayed at four months old prior to her first season.

She is extremely trim and fit and has matured perfectly normally and doesn't seem puppyish at all just boxerish. (w00t)
 
Whippets Rule said:
I think having her spayed is a very good idea if you don't intend to breed from her.
I would have thought it could only benefit her racing since she won't have to have a lay off while in season since she won't be able to come into season.

These days the operation isn't considered major at all and in fact most bitches recover more quickly and easily than boys when they are castrated,mostly due to the location of the stitching.

Spaying does NOT make dogs fat. Overfeeding makes dogs fat.

If a dog is neutered its food intake should be reduced by twenty percent.

My boxer bitch was spayed at four months old prior to her first season.

She is extremely trim and fit and has matured perfectly normally and doesn't seem puppyish at all just boxerish. (w00t)

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i agree....ive never had a bitch remain "puppyish" from spaying before a first season :thumbsup:
 
Whippets Rule said:
I think having her spayed is a very good idea if you don't intend to breed from her.
I would have thought it could only benefit her racing since she won't have to have a lay off while in season since she won't be able to come into season.

These days the operation isn't considered major at all and in fact most bitches recover more quickly and easily than boys when they are castrated,mostly due to the location of the stitching.

Spaying does NOT make dogs fat. Overfeeding makes dogs fat.

If a dog is neutered its food intake should be reduced by twenty percent.

My boxer bitch was spayed at four months old prior to her first season.

She is extremely trim and fit and has matured perfectly normally and doesn't seem puppyish at all just boxerish. (w00t)

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If spaying does not make dogs fat why do have to reduce their food intake by 20%?
 
masta said:
Whippets Rule said:
I think having her spayed is a very good idea if you don't intend to breed from her.
I would have thought it could only benefit her racing since she won't have to have a lay off while in season since she won't be able to come into season.

These days the operation isn't considered major at all and in fact most bitches recover more quickly and easily than boys when they are castrated,mostly due to the location of the stitching.

Spaying does NOT make dogs fat. Overfeeding makes dogs fat.

If a dog is neutered its food intake should be reduced by twenty percent.

My boxer bitch was spayed at four months old prior to her first season.

She is extremely trim and fit and has matured perfectly normally and doesn't seem puppyish at all just boxerish. (w00t)

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If spaying does not make dogs fat why do have to reduce their food intake by 20%?

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hormones have an effect on metabolism :thumbsup:
 
IMO its what is best for the bitch is important if she contunues to have bad seasons mabey it would be best for her to be sprayed however if her seasons settle down i would consider leaving her atleast for a while (i know nothing about racing so my opinion is just based on what i think) :clown:

whippets :huggles:
 
~whitecross whippets~ said:
masta said:
Whippets Rule said:
I think having her spayed is a very good idea if you don't intend to breed from her.
I would have thought it could only benefit her racing since she won't have to have a lay off while in season since she won't be able to come into season.

These days the operation isn't considered major at all and in fact most bitches recover more quickly and easily than boys when they are castrated,mostly due to the location of the stitching.

Spaying does NOT make dogs fat. Overfeeding makes dogs fat.

If a dog is neutered its food intake should be reduced by twenty percent.

My boxer bitch was spayed at four months old prior to her first season.

She is extremely trim and fit and has matured perfectly normally and doesn't seem puppyish at all just boxerish. (w00t)

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If spaying does not make dogs fat why do have to reduce their food intake by 20%?

Click to expand...
hormones have an effect on metabolism :thumbsup:

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i know Kaz that,s why im fat!

(w00t) (w00t)

but if spaying does not make dogs fat why bother reducing their food
 
masta said:
~whitecross whippets~ said:
masta said:
Whippets Rule said:
I think having her spayed is a very good idea if you don't intend to breed from her.
I would have thought it could only benefit her racing since she won't have to have a lay off while in season since she won't be able to come into season.

These days the operation isn't considered major at all and in fact most bitches recover more quickly and easily than boys when they are castrated,mostly due to the location of the stitching.

Spaying does NOT make dogs fat. Overfeeding makes dogs fat.

If a dog is neutered its food intake should be reduced by twenty percent.

My boxer bitch was spayed at four months old prior to her first season.

She is extremely trim and fit and has matured perfectly normally and doesn't seem puppyish at all just boxerish. (w00t)

Click to expand...
If spaying does not make dogs fat why do have to reduce their food intake by 20%?

Click to expand...
hormones have an effect on metabolism :thumbsup:

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i know Kaz that,s why im fat!

(w00t) (w00t)

but if spaying does not make dogs fat why bother reducing their food

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(w00t) :lol: :lol: thats my excuse too....lol... :lol: :lol: :thumbsup:
 
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