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Ch.Speedmon Crusayer

I have been going back through my old Royal Melbourne catalouges. I found this boy in the 1995 cat. Does anyone remember him. I am trying to complete Phoebe's lines on the whippet archive website.

I am also after sire & dam of Moonwind Sweet Music.

Together they produced Moonwind Lady Othe Stars

Karen
 
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Tesa said:
Ch.Speedmon Crusayer
I have been going back through my old Royal Melbourne catalouges.  I found this boy in the 1995 cat.  Does anyone remember him.  I am trying to complete Phoebe's lines on the whippet archive website. 

I am also after sire & dam of Moonwind Sweet Music.

Together they produced Moonwind Lady Othe Stars

Karen

Hi Karen, good news because I have the information, thanks to John McLeod sending me a pile of Oz catalogues old and new. I also haunt the Pedigree site trying to stay away from their steadily increasing number of dogs (I have 23,500 pedigrees, but mine deliberately excludes lines that are racing lines and only includes a racing dog if it shows up in a show line).

In a pedigree for Aust.Ch. Moonwind Spica I find out that Moonwind Lady of the Stars was sired by Ch. Speedmon Crusayder out of Moonwind Sweet Music, as you note. Speedmon Crusayder was sired by Nevedith Hot Toddy out of Ch. Speedmon Artemis. And Moonwind Sweet Music was by Ch. Dachlach Bass Solo out of Ch. Moonwind Celebration.

So I think we can both work on the next generation back from that now! I have no one back from there in my program as I am only now working on the dogs down under trying to build the pedigree program for them. Any back catalogues from the 80s or earlier would sure be a boon to work from!

Unfortunately, while I am known from my deep appreciation of Nevedith lines -- we have relied on them for over 20 years as the backbone of our breeding program, and while I thought I had every single Nevedith dog ever bred in my pedigree program Hot Toddy does not show up. So someone needs to help me there. Perhaps Edith Newton herself.

The Whippet Archives site is a gold mine of information. I have had huge fun tracing English lines that were exported to Europe, especially to places such as Germany where, with two World War conflicts in the 20th century exporting English lines to Germany seems to have been almost non-esixtent. And so you see old, old lines from the very early years of whippet registration in England that were used to create 40 or 50 or even more years of purely German lines that ultimately go back to those English lines. It is fascinating to see how whippets developed differently in the Low Countries, the Nordic countries and Germany.

Lanny Morry
 
Lanny you are a gem. I had also made the Spica link and had pm'd her owners, but you have been much to quick. Thank you so much.

I am so glad I kept those catalogues. I had no idea when I bought them in 93/94 & 95 that I would be dragging them out again and actually using them.

Here's hoping we now get our answer on Hot Toddy.

Karen
 
Avalonia said:
Tesa said:
Ch.Speedmon Crusayer
I have been going back through my old Royal Melbourne catalouges.  I found this boy in the 1995 cat.  Does anyone remember him.  I am trying to complete Phoebe's lines on the whippet archive website. 

I am also after sire & dam of Moonwind Sweet Music.

Together they produced Moonwind Lady Othe Stars

Karen



In a pedigree for Aust.Ch. Moonwind Spica I find out that Moonwind Lady of the Stars was sired by Ch. Speedmon Crusayder out of Moonwind Sweet Music, as you note. Speedmon Crusayder was sired by Nevedith Hot Toddy out of Ch. Speedmon Artemis. And Moonwind Sweet Music was by Ch. Dachlach Bass Solo out of Ch. Moonwind Celebration.

Lanny Morry

By the way Lanny, the Dachlah Bass Solo completed a line (back to Solotown Simeon). I also thought it was interesting to discover Phoebe (Parnew Irish Mist) has 3 of the 7 littermates Dachlah Bass Solo(x2), Tenor Solo and Drum Solo all at around generation 7.

Karen
 
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Okay folks hope this helps...

Nevedith Hot Tody(imp uk) by Nevedith Merry Monarch out of Nevedith Quite Adorable of Kiskae

Ch Speedmon Artemis by Ch Dachlah Agamemnon out of Moonwind Jocaster

Ch Dachlah Bass Solo by En Ch Solotown Simeon(imp uk) out of Ch Dachlah Andromeda

Ch Moonwind Celebration by Ch Ruegeto Nikki of Nevedith (imp uk) out of Hessbon Charmazelle.
 
Just realized you'd already gone back to Solotown Simeon so here's the next line...

Solotown Simeion by Eng Ch Mr Magic of Silkstone out of Semele of Solotown

Dachlah Andromeda by Ch. Lowglen Oakbark Masterminde (imp uk) out of Ch. Martinique Tabaquera
 
Nevedith Hot Toddy - by Nevedith Merry Monarch out of Nevedith Quite Adorable of Kiskas

Ch Moonwind Celebration - by Ch Ruegto Nikki of Nevedith out of Hessbon Charmazelle

Karen, according to a pedigree I have for Dachswyn Toucho Sun - Dachlach Tenor Solo and Dachlah Drum Solo are not littermates ..

Drum - by Simeon out of Ch Dachlah Andromeda

Tenor - by Simeon out of Ch Airwave Adonna
 
I have a document that shows four littermates by Simeon out of Andromeda

........ Bass Solo, Flute Solo, Piano Solo and Harp Solo........it doesn't mention Drum Solo but with him that makes 5 champs - must have been some litter!!!

Just found a littermate for Tenor Solo - Bell Solo...also titled!!!
 
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aslan said:
Karen, according to a pedigree I have for Dachswyn Toucho Sun - Dachlach Tenor Solo and Dachlah Drum Solo are not littermates ..
Drum - by Simeon out of Ch Dachlah Andromeda

Tenor - by Simeon out of Ch Airwave Adonna

thanks Lana, have fixed it :thumbsup:
 
Avalonia said:
Tesa said:
Ch.Speedmon Crusayer
I have been going back through my old Royal Melbourne catalouges.  I found this boy in the 1995 cat.  Does anyone remember him.  I am trying to complete Phoebe's lines on the whippet archive website. 

I am also after sire & dam of Moonwind Sweet Music.

Together they produced Moonwind Lady Othe Stars

Karen

Speedmon Crusayder was sired by Nevedith Hot Toddy out of Ch. Speedmon Artemis.

Lanny Morry


Swiftlea said:
Okay folks hope this helps...
Nevedith Hot Tody(imp uk) by Nevedith Merry Monarch out of Nevedith Quite Adorable of Kiskae

Nikki of Nevedith (imp uk) out of Hessbon Charmazelle.


That is[SIZE=14pt] SO COOL[/SIZE] The missing Hot Toddy link took me all the way back to Zuber. I am impressed, can go to bed now.
 
aslan said:
Nevedith Hot Toddy - by Nevedith Merry Monarch out of Nevedith Quite Adorable of Kiskas
Ch Moonwind Celebration -  by Ch Ruegto Nikki of Nevedith out of Hessbon Charmazelle

Karen, according to a pedigree I have for Dachswyn Toucho Sun - Dachlach Tenor Solo and Dachlah Drum Solo are not littermates ..

Drum - by Simeon out of Ch Dachlah Andromeda

Tenor - by Simeon out of Ch Airwave Adonna


I have the same information for Tenor -- out of Ch. Airwave Adonna.

Also Ch. Ruegeto Nikki of Nevedith is Eng.Ch. Akeferry Jimmy x Eng.Ch. Skytime of Glenbervie and his date of birth was 30 June 1975.

Lanny
 
Tesa said:
Avalonia said:
Tesa said:
Ch.Speedmon Crusayer
I have been going back through my old Royal Melbourne catalouges.  I found this boy in the 1995 cat.  Does anyone remember him.  I am trying to complete Phoebe's lines on the whippet archive website. 

I am also after sire & dam of Moonwind Sweet Music.

Together they produced Moonwind Lady Othe Stars

Karen

Speedmon Crusayder was sired by Nevedith Hot Toddy out of Ch. Speedmon Artemis.

Lanny Morry


Swiftlea said:
Okay folks hope this helps...
Nevedith Hot Tody(imp uk) by Nevedith Merry Monarch out of Nevedith Quite Adorable of Kiskae

Nikki of Nevedith (imp uk) out of Hessbon Charmazelle.


That is[SIZE=14pt] SO COOL[/SIZE] The missing Hot Toddy link took me all the way back to Zuber. I am impressed, can go to bed now.

And back past him to his grandparents Charlie and Lizzie I hope too! That is always my game in doing up these pedigrees.... I can trace every dog we have ever bred back all the way.

Lanny
 
Avalonia said:
And back past him to his grandparents Charlie and Lizzie I hope too!  That is always my game in doing up these pedigrees.... I can trace every dog we have ever bred back all the way.
Lanny


It does Lanny. I am sure that I will find many links back to Zuber, but that was my first one. So adictive, I should have been in bed hours ago :oops:
 
aslan said:
Nevedith Hot Toddy - by Nevedith Merry Monarch out of Nevedith Quite Adorable of Kiskas
Ch Moonwind Celebration -  by Ch Ruegto Nikki of Nevedith out of Hessbon Charmazelle

Karen, according to a pedigree I have for Dachswyn Toucho Sun - Dachlach Tenor Solo and Dachlah Drum Solo are not littermates ..

Drum - by Simeon out of Ch Dachlah Andromeda

Tenor - by Simeon out of Ch Airwave Adonna

 
Tesa said:
Avalonia said:
And back past him to his grandparents Charlie and Lizzie I hope too!  That is always my game in doing up these pedigrees.... I can trace every dog we have ever bred back all the way.

Lanny


It does Lanny. I am sure that I will find many links back to Zuber, but that was my first one. So adictive, I should have been in bed hours ago :oops:

A final question then for tonight for all the night owls in Oz... does this mean Andromeda, Adonis and Agamemnon are littermates? Sired by Aust.Ch. Oakbarke Lowglen Masterminde x Martinique Tabaquera? That would tie up two loose ends for me.

Lanny
 
Avalonia said:
A final question then for tonight for all the night owls in Oz... does this mean Andromeda, Adonis and Agamemnon are littermates?  Sired by Aust.Ch. Oakbarke Lowglen Masterminde x Martinique Tabaquera?  That would tie up two loose ends for me.
Lanny

Sorry I don't have and answer for you Lanny, but I am sure that someone else will be able to sort you out tomorrow

Karen
 
Avalonia said:
Tesa said:
Avalonia said:
And back past him to his grandparents Charlie and Lizzie I hope too!  That is always my game in doing up these pedigrees.... I can trace every dog we have ever bred back all the way.

Lanny


It does Lanny. I am sure that I will find many links back to Zuber, but that was my first one. So adictive, I should have been in bed hours ago :oops:

A final question then for tonight for all the night owls in Oz... does this mean Andromeda, Adonis and Agamemnon are littermates? Sired by Aust.Ch. Oakbarke Lowglen Masterminde x Martinique Tabaquera? That would tie up two loose ends for me.

Lanny


Yes Lanny, this is right and Dachlah Acamemnon is another litter mate.

Cheers Griff
 
Avalonia said:
Tesa said:
Avalonia said:
And back past him to his grandparents Charlie and Lizzie I hope too!  That is always my game in doing up these pedigrees.... I can trace every dog we have ever bred back all the way.

Lanny


It does Lanny. I am sure that I will find many links back to Zuber, but that was my first one. So adictive, I should have been in bed hours ago :oops:

A final question then for tonight for all the night owls in Oz... does this mean Andromeda, Adonis and Agamemnon are littermates? Sired by Aust.Ch. Oakbarke Lowglen Masterminde x Martinique Tabaquera? That would tie up two loose ends for me

.

Lanny Yes you are correct and the three were titled plus Adonis was also NZ CH.They were whelped 28/06/1973

Bill Coggins

Lanny

 
Swiftlea said:
Dachlah Andromeda by Ch. Lowglen Oakbark Masterminde (imp uk) out of Ch. Martinique Tabaquera

I had Tabaquera's litter sister. Ch. Martinique Mantilla!!!!!!!! (w00t) Please dont go any further back. I just remembered how long ago that was. :oops: She was also mated to Mastermind, & still have hanging on the wall a pic taken of one of her pups, Calico Ixia. It was taken on the day that Elvis died. :( :x
 
Avalonia said:
Tesa said:
Avalonia said:
And back past him to his grandparents Charlie and Lizzie I hope too!  That is always my game in doing up these pedigrees.... I can trace every dog we have ever bred back all the way.

Lanny


It does Lanny. I am sure that I will find many links back to Zuber, but that was my first one. So adictive, I should have been in bed hours ago :oops:

A final question then for tonight for all the night owls in Oz... does this mean Andromeda, Adonis and Agamemnon are littermates? Sired by Aust.Ch. Oakbarke Lowglen Masterminde x Martinique Tabaquera? That would tie up two loose ends for me.

Lanny

Ruegeto Nikki of Nevedith was by Akeferry Jimmy x Skytime of Glenbervie and was imported by Wallalea Kennels. I have some old pedigrees if anyone is interested.

Wallalea
 

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