Swollen Neck??

[marion]

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I wonder if any one can help me or rather my dog.???

Sometimes after racing, but only after three or four races he develops a swollen neck and iritated throat.

other times he races all day with no obvious affects.

He starts to gulp and swell up from the jaw line down.

If pressure is applied the swelling decreases with immediate effect.

He is otherwise very fit and healthy.

it feels crepuscular and is as if air is getting under his skin.?? it's a bit like bubble wrap further down.

if i massage him on his return home it is gone by morning.

he wears a halti instead of a collar but he barks at the racing alot, as you do.

he is always caged at racing,, never tethered. It comes on very quick if he strains on lead.

any comments appreciated :wacko: any help, loved!! lol

 

[Joanna]

Until I read the last bit I was going to say pressure from the collar, but if you are using a halti, it seems unlikely. I have one who pulls so much he gives himself a hacking cough (and a gagging type reflex for 5 -7 days after racing on occasions), I am presuming bruising/pressure on the larynx area. That bubbling (crepitus) can be associated with air getting into the tissue, but generally, is a response to surgical intervention wher air gets trapped and "crackles" in the tissue. How your little one is sustaining the response, I have no idea. Is he swallowing air? Clutching at straws, but as long as he recovers within 48 hours, I am not sure I would worry too much. If you find out, I would be interested to know the outcome and good luck :luck: :thumbsup:

 

[Strike Whippets]

When air builds up under the skin there is often an injury ....... Though it sounds like an allergic reaction to me ......I'd personally find a good running dogs vet and have him checked out ..... :luck: Hannah.

 

[Joanna]

I tried to edit my post but was too late.......

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Edit to say, I have just done a quick search on surgical emphysema, it could be damage to part of the airway allowing inspired air to become drawn into the tissues causing the problem. I have observed the condition in humans in my nursing career, but don't profess to have any qualification in animals, just a thought and get a properly qualified vet to check it out.

 

[marion]

I tried to edit my post but was too late.......
Editing now to say

Edit to say, I have just done a quick search on surgical emphysema, it could be damage to part of the airway allowing inspired air to become drawn into the tissues causing the problem. I have observed the condition in humans in my nursing career, but don't profess to have any qualification in animals, just a thought and get a properly qualified vet to check it out.

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hmm. That's interesting cos my brother is a highly qualified nurse and he suggested some form of pressure bandage as a preventative measure.

thank you for your reply.

x x x x

 

[marion]

When air builds up under the skin there is often an injury ....... Though it sounds like an allergic reaction to me ......I'd personally find a good running dogs vet and have him checked out .....  :luck:   Hannah.

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can you recommened anyone??

i had a hell off a time trying to get my vet to remove dew claws... and a firm no from all the other vets in my area. So i'm guessing no race experienced vets in my domain.

thank you for your reply

x x x

 

[marion]

I tried to edit my post but was too late.......
Editing now to say

Edit to say, I have just done a quick search on surgical emphysema, it could be damage to part of the airway allowing inspired air to become drawn into the tissues causing the problem. I have observed the condition in humans in my nursing career, but don't profess to have any qualification in animals, just a thought and get a properly qualified vet to check it out.

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How would you treat the condition in human's???

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[marion]

Until I read the last bit I was going to say pressure from the collar, but if you are using a halti, it seems unlikely. I have one who pulls so much he gives himself a hacking cough (and a gagging type reflex for 5 -7 days after racing on occasions), I am presuming bruising/pressure on the larynx area. That bubbling (crepitus) can be associated with air getting into the tissue, but generally, is a response to surgical intervention wher air gets trapped and "crackles" in the tissue. How your little one is sustaining the response, I have no idea. Is he swallowing air? Clutching at straws, but as long as he recovers within 48 hours, I am not sure I would worry too much. If you find out, I would be interested to know the outcome and good luck :luck:   :thumbsup:

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gagging type reflex was the very words i was looking for lol

:cheers:

 

[Strike Whippets]

When air builds up under the skin there is often an injury ....... Though it sounds like an allergic reaction to me ......I'd personally find a good running dogs vet and have him checked out .....  :luck:   Hannah.

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can you recommened anyone??

i had a hell off a time trying to get my vet to remove dew claws... and a firm no from all the other vets in my area. So i'm guessing no race experienced vets in my domain.

thank you for your reply

x x x

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I don't know your area, but put a new topic on here and non ped racing asking :luck:

 

[Judy]

This sounds a bit like what happened to another dog I heard about. It turned out to be a hole in the trachea. Rather like a pneumothorax, it allowed air to escape and bubble up in the neck. Could it be the same thing?

 

[Joanna]

This sounds a bit like what happened to another dog I heard about. It turned out to be a hole in the trachea. Rather like a pneumothorax, it allowed air to escape and bubble up in the neck. Could it be the same thing?

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That is what I was thinking Judy, if there is damage to any part of the airway, it can bubble up/ It is the weirdest thing to feel air under skin. I would imagine the only way to stop this happening is to have a surgical repair. The air will disperse naturally ove a few days, but it isn't addressing the main problem. I had totally forgotten about the condition until Marion posted, and have since worked out that it is 21 years since I saw it!

 

[June Jonigk]

I think you're dead right Judy and Jo. Our Bubble & Squeak was bitten under her armpit (for the want of a better word), and air entered under the skin every time she moved her leg. She felt like bubble wrap, and you could move the air around. It was obvious where the air was getting in, but the vet didn't want to stitch it because of it being a bite wound. In the end she had to wear a pressure bandage because the air went across her chest and down both front legs, and also down both of her sides. She looked really strange with two fat legs and a swollen body. So, your air leaking from the thorax sounds spot on - especially as it comes up after exercise. Not sure how you'd treat this one - think as others have said it probably needs looking at by a vet. I think a Greyhound vet would have seen this many times before. :luck: Good luck for a speedy recovery.

 

[marion]

Ta much for all help. (w00t)

Next stop vet's. cheers x x