Trips before second injections

[Helen Wells]

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I'm keen to take my pup out and about with me before her second injections in a puppy rucksack so she can get used to new experiences safely. My only query is how she goes to the toilet if I can't put her down? Like if we drove to the beach for a few hours - is there any way of doing it?

 

[JoanneF]

If you are going to the beach, time your visit for just after high tide and you can walk your puppy safely along the sand that has just been cleaned by the sea.

For anywhere else, you could take a newspaper to put her down on on that.

 

[lurcherman]

There’s a simple reason your dogs needs to puppy vacs so be very careful, you must be able to wait? And putting him in a rucksack is not my idea of bringing up a dog, I want my dog to be tough , independent, all the people mothering there dogs create a dog I just would not want, for me it’s more 65..35, your dog must be able to be a dog., I honestly can’t think of any problems I’ve had with my dogs doing this, but having other people’s dogs has been a nightmare, they soon learn I’m not gunna pamper them .

 

[Helen Wells]

There’s a simple reason your dogs needs to puppy vacs so be very careful, you must be able to wait? And putting him in a rucksack is not my idea of bringing up a dog, I want my dog to be tough , independent, all the people mothering there dogs create a dog I just would not want, for me it’s more 65..35, your dog must be able to be a dog., I honestly can’t think of any problems I’ve had with my dogs doing this, but having other people’s dogs has been a nightmare, they soon learn I’m not gunna pamper them .

Oh absolutely I'm not planning to be pampering and carrying her for life... I just thought it would be good for her socialising to get out asap and experience as much as possible while being safe

 

[Helen Wells]

If you are going to the beach, time your visit for just after high tide and you can walk your puppy safely along the sand that has just been cleaned by the sea.

For anywhere else, you could take a newspaper to put her down on on that.

Thanks Joanne, that's really helpful

 

[JoanneF]

I take the opposite view from @lurcherman - getting a puppy accustomed to experiencing all the sights and sounds of the world from a safe place will help build her confidence. I am guessing it is a rucksack designed for carrying a puppy but even tucking her into your jacket and getting her out there is helpful.

 

[Helen Wells]

I take the opposite view from @lurcherman - getting a puppy accustomed to experiencing all the sights and sounds of the world from a safe place will help build her confidence. I am guessing it is a rucksack designed for carrying a puppy but even tucking her into your jacket and getting her out there is helpful.

Thanks Joanne. This is what I was thinking.
It's a puppy rucksack which is expandable with mesh sides so she could sit in their on the beach and be safe.

 

[Hemlock]

IMO your planned trips are far too long for a puppy this age. Each new experience has to be processed in the brain, and ten minutes of a new situation is enough. It's great that you are eager to get the socialising done, but remember puppy is a baby and all too easily overwhelmed.

 

[Helen Wells]

IMO your planned trips are far too long for a puppy this age. Each new experience has to be processed in the brain, and ten minutes of a new situation is enough. It's great that you are eager to get the socialising done, but remember puppy is a baby and all too easily overwhelmed.

Thank you for your thoughts. I don't want to overwhelm her so I'll give it some more thought

 

[JoanneF]

Can your rucksack be worn on your front?

I would want to keep an eye on the pup.

 

[Helen Wells]

Can your rucksack be worn on your front?

I would want to keep an eye on the pup.

Yep!

 

[Finsky]

Thanks Joanne. This is what I was thinking.
It's a puppy rucksack which is expandable with mesh sides so she could sit in their on the beach and be safe.

When my younger one was still little and not had her full set of injections yet...having another older dog who needed her walks, I did put the little one inside a bag..hung up on front of me and off we went to our 'wild' walkies.
When we got into further into the woods where there wasn't people and their dogs about, I would pick an suitable area where I would let her on the ground to have a wee before carrying on with the rambling.
On the car park, there was coffee area where people would meet and I would have a drink..staying little bit away from others so the pup could just take notice what is going on around her...lot of other dogs...different smells...groups of people...horse or two as well! She was never nervous or scared at all. Few weeks later once the injections were 'up and running'...we would still do the same but this time she would be allowed few minutes here and there to walk herself as well as mingle with other dogs and their owners on the coffee area.
Despite her teeny size, she behaved totally 'naturally' in that environment having had chance to get herself familiarized to her surroundings. She has seen miles of scenery by the time some pups only get out first time.
I took her with me/us everywhere from the day one and her walking distance slowly grew as time went by.

So yes....I do recommend that if she is happy to be carried on and you are able to..it is good for her to get on with the 'outdoors' as much as possible and as early as possible... it builds confidence in them.
ETA; introducing my dogs this way to wide world certainly haven't turn my 2 terriers into pair of 'pussies'

 

[Helen Wells]

When my younger one was still little and not had her full set of injections yet...having another older dog who needed her walks, I did put the little one inside a bag..hung up on front of me and off we went to our 'wild' walkies.
When we got into further into the woods where there wasn't people and their dogs about, I would pick an suitable area where I would let her on the ground to have a wee before carrying on with the rambling.
On the car park, there was coffee area where people would meet and I would have a drink..staying little bit away from others so the pup could just take notice what is going on around her...lot of other dogs...different smells...groups of people...horse or two as well! She was never nervous or scared at all. Few weeks later once the injections were 'up and running'...we would still do the same but this time she would be allowed few minutes here and there to walk herself as well as mingle with other dogs and their owners on the coffee area.
Despite her teeny size, she behaved totally 'naturally' in that environment having had chance to get herself familiarized to her surroundings. She has seen miles of scenery by the time some pups only get out first time.
I took her with me/us everywhere from the day one and her walking distance slowly grew as time went by.

So yes....I do recommend that if she is happy to be carried on and you are able to..it is good for her to get on with the 'outdoors' as much as possible and as early as possible... it builds confidence in them.

Thanks so much for taking the time to reply. That's really interesting and good to know. I guess I'll play by ear a bit depending how she is when she arrives but I'm very keen for her to get out as much as possible if she's ok with it, especially as I live alone so she won't have lots of others to interact with at home

 

[JoanneF]

Can I just divert to socialisation for a moment?

You might find this helpful Socialising your puppy

 

[Finsky]

Thanks so much for taking the time to reply. That's really interesting and good to know. I guess I'll play by ear a bit depending how she is when she arrives but I'm very keen for her to get out as much as possible if she's ok with it, especially as I live alone so she won't have lots of others to interact with at home

Other thing I would say...as long as your pup doesn't seem to react being scared or nervous...carry on with what you are doing as noting particular haven't happened. If she does start to show signs of being slightly uncomfortable or not so sure within herself..don't push it any further or reassure her like you we do with human babies. Just change the direction of your action so she can be comfortable again and that correction is enough. Next time round your pup might be little braver and able to process the new things further. Some dogs are almost 'born' brave and other not, so we need to 'feel' and learn their boundaries and go along with them. That is important when they are young..when they are older they know better and even the not so brave ones are capable to understand if the situation demands them having to cope a little more than usual.

 

[lurcherman]

I’m not against getting dogs out for the love of god, as I see it nowadays I’ve never seen so many wild, loopy, non trained, stupid dogs in circulation, so many with problems which is human made, but come to think of it children are the same haha,

 

[Finsky]

I’m not against getting dogs out for the love of god, as I see it nowadays I’ve never seen so many wild, loopy, non trained, stupid dogs in circulation, so many with problems which is human made, but come to think of it children are the same haha,

Ohh....don't start me about the kids...
When I occasionally come across a child that is (not really sure what word to use)..umm..kind of old fashioned sort...not these little prats that are like wild, brainless creatures but they know what strings to pull to get their own way. It almost like they are conditioned from early on to be selfish and entitled.

Earlier this summer I visited a local farm to fetch some wool from their sheep shearing. Farmer has 4 kids...all still under 10 in various ages. Although they were cheeky and lively (put it in mildly)..but they were 'proper' kids. They were able to chat normally...they loved to be involved with the work and company...they were inquisitive. I don't say this often but I actually enjoyed having them around. But lot of them came down to their parents attitude. These lucky kids had chance to explore and have some amount freedom to play as their pleased. They were corrected for their behaviour as necessary and they were not allowed to drive tractor until school work was done!! Never mind playing with all the xboxes etc.
Yeah..each generation have their own 'toys' but I'm not convinced that this current one's playing habits are doing them any favours.
That's me off to the grumpy corner...

 

[JudyN]

When I get a child come up and ask politely if they can stroke my dog, it's so refreshing! I have to explain that he's a bit wary of children so best not, but always praise them for asking.

One even called OH 'Sir' when he asked him!

 

[lurcherman]

A kid with manners is hard to find on the streets nowadays but then again who lets a 9 year old to play for hours on end? The good families don’t but the runt family’s of our time do, a kid with manners is always given a smile by me, I don’t speak to kids of today as most are lying brats who can get people in trouble with their lies, I also had a kid ask to stroke my dog I replied no and he took a swing at my 14 yr old dog, geez I almost lost it .

 

[Finsky]

When I get a child come up and ask politely if they can stroke my dog, it's so refreshing! I have to explain that he's a bit wary of children so best not, but always praise them for asking.

One even called OH 'Sir' when he asked him!

I can't remember last time one would even asked! Usually they just storm in.