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georgina said:
So very sorry to hear of your loss, RIP Pagan
Once again I must thank you all for such kind words & condolences, not just here but all the private messages & emails I have received as well - I can't tell you how quiet it is around here without her, she was such a character & such a presence, exactly the sort of thing you'd want to breed on with.

I simply don't know where we start with identifying these heart problems. The vets say exactly what Toni has just said - it comes & goes, some puppies in a litter are affected & some not & by the time the problem presents itself the dog/bitch has usually been used at stud. I only learnt of Pagan's problem because I took her to the vet for a general health check prior to mating her in a couple of month's time. But, we've got to start somewhere because, apparently it is becoming a problem worldwide. As Lida said earlier even the tests that confirm a heart problem cannot identify the carriers & these would have to be the biggest problem of all. Correction, the biggest problem are the breeders who don't/won't accept there is, or could be, a problem in their lines. We have got to stop looking at this personally & consider the breed as a whole.

The vets do agree that it is hereditary & closely inbred dogs are far more likely to have it/carry it than those with a greater genetic diversity within their pedigrees, hence the need for COIs. Anything above 6.5% is considered too high. Having said that though very few dogs these days are that low but the idea should be to mate your bitch to the dog that will produce the lowest COI possible & keep aiming with every generation to get it lower. This, of course, means close line breeding goes out the window which many wouldn't accept especially if they've spent many years perfecting their own type.

It is a very real problem & I think it's going to take intervention & rules by the various Kennel Clubs around the world to insist on testing each breed for its specific problems with the results either published or shown on the registration papers before any real headway will be made. Self regulation won't work. If the human race can't agree on a solution to save the very planet we live on what chance is there of it agreeing on the health requirements of pedigree animals?
 
Gail, I am sorry to hear of Pagans sudden death. this is a great thread though, something for breeders and breed clubs to consider. I would love to see the breed clubs and the canine authority start being proactive and encourage, or better still insist on health testing before any whippet is accepted for breeding and or showing.

When I first got a whippet 25 years ago, they were known to be such a healthy breed, I dont think it's the case anymore. I too have had a pup I bred die from an auto immune disease and another has been diagnosed with a heart condition, both from the same litter. Their mother is now desexed. I didn't have her health tested and neither was the sire. If I was ever to breed again I would do things differently.

I hope the breed club (in my state at least, I dont know about anything others are doing) start doing something more than organising shows and start taking responsibility for the health and future of the breed.
 
Unfortunately is not possible to test for these immune diseases we are seeing more of,or for the carriers of heart diseases this is why the levels of inbreeding are the first thing that can be addressed. Show whippets are routinely bred with COis into the high 20% this is genetically equivalent to consistant father daughter matings .

Some of us have been working hard on this issue for some time now, it has already been posted on here, and as also posted on here a proposal to address this issue will be discussed at Breed Club level in the near future

Low COis will not guarantee the health of the individual but they will be GUARANTEED to improve the health of the BREED
 
I,m so sorry for your recent loss Gail,how heartbreaking :(

Rest In Peace little one.
 

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