Welfare Officer

[Susan]

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What a load of bull. If anyone wanted to see where me dogs sleep, it's either on the couch or my bedroom and Ricky sleeps with Rachel. They wont get into my house.

I have never seen a non ped whippet half starved, beeten or neglected at the track

I would be in prison if I did :- " :- "

 

[ahorsnall]

i think you taking welfare officer wrong its not to check on houses :blink: its just to cover welfare cases not dogs that are well cared for

 

[ahorsnall]

even got welfare officer at local pigeon racing club to make sure entrys in good condition just to cover deffra rules i think

 

[fallenangel]

I do think something should be set up to help with rehoming non peds as its not allways possabel for owners to do or know how to do home checks and fined good homes. If that whats ment I am all for that and will offer to help in any way i can.

Theres lots of peoepl out there with good homes wanting whippets and lovly dogs that need matching up so someone doing that would be good

 

[mutley]

weve been helping doing this for years with the northeast rescue with dave and molly :thumbsup: cant be a bad thing if its for rehoming ex racers :luck:

 

[ahorsnall]

I do think something should be set up to help with rehoming non peds as its not allways possabel for owners to do or know how to do home checks and fined good homes. If that whats ment I am all for that and will offer to help in any way i can.    Theres lots of peoepl out there with good homes wanting whippets and lovly dogs that need matching up so someone doing that would be good

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i think its more to help with rehoming not home checks :thumbsup: and linda been doing this for years with greyhounds

 

[ahorsnall]

and i know north east rescue been doing a great job for years to

 

[Susan]

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i think you taking welfare officer wrong its not to check on houses  :blink: its just to cover welfare cases not dogs that are well cared for 

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Well im sure all non ped whippets are being cared for. I have never seen a dog who is being miss treated. Who decides who is the welfare officer ?..the BWRA or sspca / rspcs. What a waste of time and money ?.

If you have one of these people knocking at your door, do you let them in :- " ,,to see your house, dogs. I will not let anyone into my house without an official badge and if it was the SSPCA, they would be very welcome, as my dogs are better treated than me

Is this the way non ped racing is going,,,,,,Wish I had stuck to my guns and gave up racing in July,,,The family (Weir) voted to go on racing . Never hear such a load of crap (w00t)

I will offer myself the rep/ welfare officer for Scotland,,,,all the dogs are very well looked after/ well fed/ sleep on gold quilts/ and im moving in with Val :lol: :lol: as she has a shad warmer home than mine

 

[ahorsnall]

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i think you taking welfare officer wrong its not to check on houses  :blink: its just to cover welfare cases not dogs that are well cared for 

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Well im sure all non ped whippets are being cared for. I have never seen a dog who is being miss treated. Who decides who is the welfare officer ?..the BWRA or sspca / rspcs. What a waste of time and money ?.

If you have one of these people knocking at your door, do you let them in :- " ,,to see your house, dogs. I will not let anyone into my house without an official badge and if it was the SSPCA, they would be very welcome, as my dogs are better treated than me

Is this the way non ped racing is going,,,,,,Wish I had stuck to my guns and gave up racing in July,,,The family (Weir) voted to go on racing . Never hear such a load of crap (w00t)

I will offer myself the rep/ welfare officer for Scotland,,,,all the dogs are very well looked after/ well fed/ sleep on gold quilts/ and im moving in with Val :lol: :lol: as she has a shad warmer home than mine

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susan i think its not implying they are not

as we know whippets at racing are kept in fine condition :thumbsup:

 

[Paws123]

The welfare officer may at some point have to take a dog in if it was uncared for or in a bit of a mess...i am sure Linda would of thought long and hard before she agreed to take the job ...lets face it many of us have a dogs our selfs...and i know also Linda and her husband Les do work with greyhound rescue..so must have the space to do so if need be...We should be congratulating Linda and Les for taken a task like this on

I know when Molly and Davey were running the whippet rescue there were a couple of not very nice cases they had to deal with and they alway did ...molly and Davey's phone and vet bills were massive

Maybe we should all be thinking about trying to raise money for this welfare project instead of knocking it before its begun...i am more than sure there will be some type of written explanation put in the whippet news for all members to read

Well done to all concerned i think its a great idea...i was just discussing something along the same lines myself with Davey Wilcox in Devon this year...

 

[wild whippies]

Ahh so it's for rehoming and fostering uncared for dogs? It's good that Linda and Les have offered their services for fostering too. I'm sure we'll all be happy to help out whichever way they can.

Wishing them the best of luck! :luck:

 

[Paws123]

Thats what i was told ...shame i missed the agm maybe someone who was present can added

 

[tanyia]

I would imagine a full report will go in w/news from Malcolm. It was difficult to hear everything at the agm , but 3 welfare officers are needed one north , midlands and south to work along side bodies like the rspca. Thay will have to trained. It was to do with DEFRA.

I think we will just have to wait for a report.

 

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Cheers Tanya I think the person who spoke to me must of misheard too. I thought it didn't sound right.

 

[John]

After what has been a bad year so far for serious racing injuries I wondered about what people thought about setting up a welfare fund to help with vet bills.  This could be done if the racing bodies who charge a membership fee donate a percentage of this revenue to a welfare fund I would like to think that this could be done without an increase to membership fees.  This in turn could help anybody whos dog suffers a serious injury at a open a little help with the vet bills.  It goes without saying that any racing body cannon't be held responsable for a racing injury and owners dont hesatate about taking their dog to a vet.  Any fund would of course have guidelines as it could not be expected to pay the vet bill full costs.  There will be of course arguments for and against.  For-it would help the welfare of our dogs Against-each dog is their owner's responsability.  I know that every time a serious injury happens racers usually have a whip round and this could still happen.  What are your thoughts.

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The welfare officer may at some point have to take a dog in if it was uncared for or in a bit of a mess...i am sure Linda would of thought long and hard before she agreed to take the job  ...lets face it many of us have a dogs our selfs...and i know also Linda and her husband Les do work with greyhound rescue..so must have the space to do so if need be...We should be congratulating Linda and Les for taken a task like this on
I know when Molly and Davey were running the whippet rescue there were a couple of not very nice cases they had to deal with and they alway did ...molly and Davey's phone and vet bills were massive

Maybe we should all be thinking about trying to raise money for this welfare project instead of knocking it before its begun...i am more than sure there will be some type of written explanation put in the whippet news for all members to read

Well done to all concerned i think its a great idea...i was just discussing something along the same lines myself with Davey Wilcox in Devon this year...

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It is not a new idea as you can see I posted a thread over three years ago about starting a welfare fund and the reply's were to say the least varied I will bump the thread back up so that some who may not have seen it can read it. I accept my thread was about a welfare fund and not a welfare officer but in my opinion it amount's to the same thing the welfare of our dog's wether that means help with a vet bill or finding a new home what's the differance none (in my opinion) we are all in this together and it should not take a new law to make us see this. I take my hat off to everyone who has put into a collection for a injured dog on race day and to all the rescue people who find new homes for dog's (whatever the breed).

 

[Paws123]

I WILL ADD SOME INFO I HAVE RECEIVED SO FAR FROM DERFA

HOPE I HAVE MADE IT SIMPLE ENOUGH FOR EVERYONE TO READ..I WILL ALSO DO A FULL REPORT WHEN I HAVE RECEIVED EVERY THING FROM THEM (DEFRA)

Can i just add that defra has not got anything to do with the racing of none ped whippets at the present time, there is no none ped whippet group been add as to present date ( I PERSONALLY THINK IF WE ADD A NONE PED WHIPPET GROUP WE COULD END UP REGRETTING IT MY OPINION ...There is however an issue concerning greyhound welfare

This reads:

In June 2005, Defra set up a working group to examine the issue of greyhound welfare which will be regulated through secondary legislation under the Animal Welfare Bill in England and Wales and the Animal Health and Welfare Bill in Scotland. The group has been asked to:

Offer advice to Ministers and officials in the drafting of proposals to improve greyhound welfare

Suggest areas of greyhound welfare which need to be covered under regulations and a code of practice

Advise on what needs to be in the regulations and the code of practice

Consider registration/ licensing options and responsibilities for enforcement

Consider the impact of the proposals on the wider industry, individual tracks, local authorities and welfare organisations. The proposals will need to be compatible with the government’s vision of better regulation

Members of the group include representatives of welfare organisations, the racing industry, local authorities, the devolved administrations and Defra.

As i am lead to believe so far that these only a few issues we should be concerned with is transportation and housing while we are traveling or racing which are as followsin any way that is likely to cause injury or unnecessary suffering that is unfit to do so unless there are arrangements for its care, both during the journey and at its destination by using excessive force to control it - the use of sticks, whips, crops and goads are also restricted(which is mainly aimed at livestock)cause unnecessary suffering through transportation ) 2nd issue Breeding and selling dogs The 1999 Act provides that bitches are not mated until they are at least one year old and that they give birth to no more than six litters in a lifetime and no more than one litter per year. Accurate breeding records must be maintained by the establishment (this is aimed at mostly puppy farming)

There is a few other thing like the removal of dew claws and micro chipping of greyhounds instead of tattooing them.

 

[tanyia]

I WILL ADD SOME INFO I HAVE RECEIVED SO FAR FROM DERFA
HOPE I HAVE MADE IT SIMPLE ENOUGH FOR EVERYONE TO READ..I WILL ALSO DO A FULL REPORT WHEN I HAVE RECEIVED EVERY THING FROM THEM (DEFRA)

Can i just add that defra has not got anything to do with the racing of none ped whippets at the present time, there is no none ped whippet group been add as to present date ( I PERSONALLY THINK IF WE ADD A NONE PED WHIPPET GROUP WE COULD END UP REGRETTING IT MY OPINION ...There is however an issue concerning greyhound welfare

This reads:

In June 2005, Defra set up a working group to examine the issue of greyhound welfare which will be regulated through secondary legislation under the Animal Welfare Bill in England and Wales and the Animal Health and Welfare Bill in Scotland. The group has been asked to:

Offer advice to Ministers and officials in the drafting of proposals to improve greyhound welfare

Suggest areas of greyhound welfare which need to be covered under regulations and a code of practice

Advise on what needs to be in the regulations and the code of practice

Consider registration/ licensing options and responsibilities for enforcement

Consider the impact of the proposals on the wider industry, individual tracks, local authorities and welfare organisations. The proposals will need to be compatible with the government’s vision of better regulation

Members of the group include representatives of welfare organisations, the racing industry, local authorities, the devolved administrations and Defra.

As i am lead to believe so far that these only a few issues we should be concerned with is transportation and housing while we are traveling or racing which are as followsin any way that is likely to cause injury or unnecessary suffering that is unfit to do so unless there are arrangements for its care, both during the journey and at its destination by using excessive force to control it - the use of sticks, whips, crops and goads are also restricted(which is mainly aimed at livestock)cause unnecessary suffering through transportation ) 2nd issue Breeding and selling dogs The 1999 Act provides that bitches are not mated until they are at least one year old and that they give birth to no more than six litters in a lifetime and no more than one litter per year. Accurate breeding records must be maintained by the establishment (this is aimed at mostly puppy farming)

There is a few other thing like the removal of dew claws and micro chipping of greyhounds instead of tattooing them.

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Yes Dee it was along those lines, I agree I think we would regret adding non peds.

Some are confusing this with funding as well.

It has nothing to do with funding or helping out with vet bills for injured whippets

 

[John]

Theres no person unless qualified with police present that could walk into anyones home or kennels unless you invited them...
I really don't think that at the agm when welfare officers were talked about it was to come to your homes, i would think its to do with re-homing of whippets in unusual circumstances ...but as i said with out knowing the true fact of what was discussed i don't know as i did not attend the agm

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weve been helping doing this for years with the northeast  rescue with dave and molly  :thumbsup:   cant be a bad thing if its for rehoming ex racers :luck:

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The welfare officer may at some point have to take a dog in if it was uncared for or in a bit of a mess...i am sure Linda would of thought long and hard before she agreed to take the job  ...lets face it many of us have a dogs our selfs...and i know also Linda and her husband Les do work with greyhound rescue..so must have the space to do so if need be...We should be congratulating Linda and Les for taken a task like this on
I know when Molly and Davey were running the whippet rescue there were a couple of not very nice cases they had to deal with and they alway did ...molly and Davey's phone and vet bills were massive

Maybe we should all be thinking about trying to raise money for this welfare project instead of knocking it before its begun...i am more than sure there will be some type of written explanation put in the whippet news for all members to read

Well done to all concerned i think its a great idea...i was just discussing something along the same lines myself with Davey Wilcox in Devon this year...

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I WILL ADD SOME INFO I HAVE RECEIVED SO FAR FROM DERFA
HOPE I HAVE MADE IT SIMPLE ENOUGH FOR EVERYONE TO READ..I WILL ALSO DO A FULL REPORT WHEN I HAVE RECEIVED EVERY THING FROM THEM (DEFRA)

Can i just add that defra has not got anything to do with the racing of none ped whippets at the present time, there is no none ped whippet group been add as to present date ( I PERSONALLY THINK IF WE ADD A NONE PED WHIPPET GROUP WE COULD END UP REGRETTING IT MY OPINION ...There is however an issue concerning greyhound welfare

This reads:

In June 2005, Defra set up a working group to examine the issue of greyhound welfare which will be regulated through secondary legislation under the Animal Welfare Bill in England and Wales and the Animal Health and Welfare Bill in Scotland. The group has been asked to:

Offer advice to Ministers and officials in the drafting of proposals to improve greyhound welfare

Suggest areas of greyhound welfare which need to be covered under regulations and a code of practice

Advise on what needs to be in the regulations and the code of practice

Consider registration/ licensing options and responsibilities for enforcement

Consider the impact of the proposals on the wider industry, individual tracks, local authorities and welfare organisations. The proposals will need to be compatible with the government’s vision of better regulation

Members of the group include representatives of welfare organisations, the racing industry, local authorities, the devolved administrations and Defra.

As i am lead to believe so far that these only a few issues we should be concerned with is transportation and housing while we are traveling or racing which are as followsin any way that is likely to cause injury or unnecessary suffering that is unfit to do so unless there are arrangements for its care, both during the journey and at its destination by using excessive force to control it - the use of sticks, whips, crops and goads are also restricted(which is mainly aimed at livestock)cause unnecessary suffering through transportation ) 2nd issue Breeding and selling dogs The 1999 Act provides that bitches are not mated until they are at least one year old and that they give birth to no more than six litters in a lifetime and no more than one litter per year. Accurate breeding records must be maintained by the establishment (this is aimed at mostly puppy farming)

There is a few other thing like the removal of dew claws and micro chipping of greyhounds instead of tattooing them.

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Yes Dee it was along those lines, I agree I think we would regret adding non peds.

Some are confusing this with funding as well.

It has nothing to do with funding or helping out with vet bills for injured whippets

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My post was based on some of the post's on this thread which mention finding new homes for ex racers and one of Dees post's mention the vet bills of someone involved in finding new homes for greyhounds. The same post also mentions about raising funds for this project that is why I bumped the thread back up on a welfare fund. I did point out in my post that the thread that I started over three years ago was about a welfare fund and not a welfare officer all I was trying to point out was that dog welfare was not a new subject some of us have debated the idea of a welfare fund before. If Dee had put that stuff from DEFRA in from the start I don't think that home checks, finding new homes and most of the other posts on this thread would have been posted in the first place but instead the thread was allowed to wander all over the place.

 

[Paws123]

Fully understand where you are coming from john, and i do think its a great idea what you stated in the old poll...maybe some members through out the country could get together as a team and raise funds to help whippet owners with seriously injured whippets to wards vets bills.... you may also have a good laugh doing it....few examples (fun runs, tombola etc)

As i stated i was not at the recent agm and fully understand that defra are bring new laws in, so along these lines was stating why the bwra had appointed welfare officers, bit unsure myself the full reasons,outcome why?

But as Pauline has said i am sure a full report will be getting done

 

[Malcolm Clarke]

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