What About These "mutants"

[maggie217]

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Advertised in my local paper this week

BICHOOS

Bichon Frise x Shoodle

Adorable fluffy pups, non moulting

and allergy friendly

Excellent tempeament

Ideal family pets

KC history

£350

or would you like a:

CAVASHON

Bichon x Cavalier

3 boys left

Little Cuties

ready December

All colours

Deposit secures

Non moulting

£550

or what about a JUG !! Pug x Jack Russell for £250

I wonder what health tests the parents of these pups have had?

Are these the dogs the RSPCA would like to see more of in the future rather than pure-bred "mutants"

Pauline

 

[J.T.]

(w00t) £550 (w00t) for a cross breed. People must be nuts to pay that :blink:

That first one is even more crossed and could also be called.....

a good old fashioned........Mongrel :- "

 

[grantos]

£550! that could buy 3 lurchers and leave money to spare (w00t)

getting a bit ridiculous these 'designer' lap dogs...

 

[Django'sPeeps]

It's ridiculous what some people will ask for a crossbred dog. Some of them are so obscurely bred (a quarter of that, a quarter of this and a third of something else) that they are basically mongrels as J.T. quite rightly said!

A Boston Terrier x Pug (or 'Bug') goes for about £750! Crazy. Just because a crossbred dog is given a cutesy nickname like 'Bug', 'Bichoos' or 'Cavashon' it doesn't make it an actual breed. Ever since the 'Labradoodle' everyone is jumping on the band-wagon. :wacko: :blink:

 

[maggie217]

Just seen in DW today that the PDSA are pulling out of Crufts too. Presumably the RSPCA, Dogs Trust and the PDSA aren't objecting to these mongrels

Pauline

 

[talisman]

Was looking at a add yesterday. Sprocker pups. Dad Sprocker cross mum Jack russel £300 (w00t)

And i bet some idiot buys them. You would be lucky to get £300 for a full Jack Russel let a lone a cross.

I dont suppose spaniel cross russel sounds as good lol.

 

[Hula]

It's ridiculous what some people will ask for a crossbred dog. Some of them are so obscurely bred (a quarter of that, a quarter of this and a third of something else) that they are basically mongrels as J.T. quite rightly said!A Boston Terrier x Pug (or 'Bug') goes for about £750! Crazy. Just because a crossbred dog is given a cutesy nickname like 'Bug', 'Bichoos' or 'Cavashon' it doesn't make it an actual breed. Ever since the 'Labradoodle' everyone is jumping on the band-wagon. :wacko:   :blink:

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When I first went to Canada over 20 years ago these crossbreeds were for sale in all the papers . I think the UK is just catching up with Canada / America

 

[lalena]

this subject came up a while back, regarding a cross known as a 'tudor hound' (whippet x cavalier)

if a breeder, when crossing two completely dissimilar breeds, is taking generations to do so, with a specific aim in mind, and is 'standardising' offspring of this cross, its not so bad (but, personally, why would you do it?) but the producers of these designer mongrels arent aiming for anything beyond their pockets. gullible buyers cannot predict temperament, size, build etc which, lets face it, could and probably is leading to animals going into rescue because they arent what the owners wanted (again, something that sickens me...an animal is for life, not while its cute/small bla bla bla)

 

[Foxglove]

These crosses/mongrels are NOTHING to do with wanting to create 'healthy' dogs but everything to do with numpties jumping on the 'designer breed' bandwagon and making a quick buck whilst the trend lasts :rant:

In a year or two will we be hearing about chihuahua X cavaliers who have slipping stifles as well as brain diseases? :angry:

Personally I think we have enough pedigree breeds so WHY do folks want to create more? And it's not as though they are proper thought-out crosses which are part of a planned breeding programme of a few generations - they're as planned as a Lucky Dip ticket on the lottery!!! :rant:

Bit of a sore point with me :rant: As if the dog world wasn't in enough trouble with those blasted idiot chavs and their 'macho' breeds being bred willy-nilly and passed from pillar to post until the poor innocent dogs end up in rescue - now we have 'designer dogs' being bred JUST to make their owners money, nothing more!!! :rant: :rant: :rant:

What is wrong with breeding whippet to whippet.....greyhound to greyhound....IG to IG....poodle to *shock horror* another poodle?

 

[grantos]

I think crossbreeds per se aren't necessarily a bad thing, you know what you're going to get if you cross a beddy with a whippet, or a collie and greyhound. but dogs like that have a purpose.

these designer lapdogs are bred to make money out of people who want a puppy, not a dog!

 

[cyfrin]

We have JackSchits for sale in our paper, for £250!! :rant:

JR X schitzu :rant:

I agree that mongrels have a place in the dog world but to make so much money is downright daylight robbery - and as for the idiots that pay - well...!

 

[maggie217]

We have JackSchits for sale in our paper, for £250!!  :rant:

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Sorry to hear Jack isn't feeling too well :lol:

Pauline

 

[baberuth]

At the moment were we live the most popular selling dog is the Cockerpoos

Cocker spanial and poodles the chap I know selling them at a staggering £450 dogs £500 bitches

he cant get enough

whichever way you look at it they are still

cross bred mongrels

whatever next

 

[wild whippies]

From a health aspect, breeding mongrels will give the dogs genetic diversity and have a greater likelihood of breeding healthy dogs than they would if they was KC bred by someone with no knowledge or care of the particular breed.

However, reciprocal breeding to obtain a 'set type' would be extremely hazardous, especially with breeding stock that already has faults within it's lineage.

The 'mongrel' with no set agenda has a good foundation on which to produce sound offspring.

The designer 'mongrels' (cockerpoos etc) whilst in their first generation may also be fault free but repeated linings from the same gene pool is potentially more disastrous then Kennel Club registered dogs being bred by novices.

I may be overtly judgemental here but my own opinion is that anyone who seeks to put some kind of exclusivity on their pups by giving them names like cockerpoo etc aren't breeding accidentally, they're doing so with a purpose which I suspect would be financial. Such individuals are more inclined to repeat mate within their own kennels and typify the dog produced. Once you start breeding dogs to all look alike, your on extremely dodgy ground.

 

[maggie217]

From a health aspect, breeding mongrels will give the dogs genetic diversity and have a greater likelihood of breeding healthy dogs than they would if they was KC bred by someone with no knowledge or care of the particular breed.
However, reciprocal breeding to obtain a 'set type' would be extremely hazardous, especially with breeding stock that already has faults within it's lineage.

The 'mongrel' with no set agenda has a good foundation on which to produce sound offspring.

The designer 'mongrels' (cockerpoos etc) whilst in their first generation may also be fault free but repeated linings from the same gene pool is potentially more disastrous then Kennel Club registered dogs being bred by novices.

I may be overtly judgemental here but my own opinion is that anyone who seeks to put some kind of exclusivity on their pups by giving them names like cockerpoo etc aren't breeding accidentally, they're doing so with a purpose which I suspect would be financial. Such individuals are more inclined to repeat mate within their own kennels and typify the dog produced. Once you start breeding dogs to all look  alike, your on extremely dodgy ground.

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But isn't this what the RSPCA, Dogs Trust, PDSA are now encouraging by acting against the kennel club? Although there may be faults with the KC, who will watch over the future health issues of these "designer" cross-breeds?