What Colour Brindle

[Millie]

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So brindled whippets are all ...........

Fawns (differant shades of) with Black or Blue Lines :thumbsup:

So Zebs is a Fawn with black brindle simple LOL :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[Strike Whippets]

Well to put my two pennies worth in .....I always thought the colour of the brindle is the back ground colour, not the stripes ........So Zeb is a silver brindle, as is Ruso .....Kiplin, Blaze and Sada are blue brindles ........ and Archers a red brindle    ......but this is only what I've been told years ago when I worked with racing Greyhounds  :lol:

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:angry: I don't want Silver.....I want Black :- "

How can Kiplin, Blaze and Sada be blue brindles, when it's their stripes that are blue not the background 8)

Archer is Sexy Brindle :wub:

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They are blue brindles because their back ground colours are blue fawn, so add the blue stripes and they are definitely blue brindle :thumbsup:

 

[dessie]

Well to put my two pennies worth in .....I always thought the colour of the brindle is the back ground colour, not the stripes ........So Zeb is a silver brindle, as is Ruso .....Kiplin, Blaze and Sada are blue brindles ........ and Archers a red brindle    ......but this is only what I've been told years ago when I worked with racing Greyhounds  :lol:

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:angry: I don't want Silver.....I want Black :- "

How can Kiplin, Blaze and Sada be blue brindles, when it's their stripes that are blue not the background 8)

Archer is Sexy Brindle :wub:

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I would tend to agree with Hannah's theory, i.e. that you go on background colour because otherwise all brindles would either be blue or black brindle but I think I would describe Kiplin, Blaze and Sada as fawn brindle or blue fawn brindle. Archer I would describe as a red brindle. Zeb and my own Rupert are sort of inbetween colours because a lot of people would describe them as black brindle but I, personally, don't think either of them have the intensity of brindling to describe them as such. They are more silver fawn with black brindling.

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It really all depends how the individual sees and describes colours ............... hence why I only ever register puppies as brindle or brindle particolour!!!

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Does that mean you have a brown dog, but with stripes then (w00t) 8) :- "

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Unfortunately .................. YES (w00t) !! Especially little old Sophie!

 

[quintessence]

This is such an interesting topic. Most days when we are out we meet the most beautiful little lady who I always think of as silver brindle, I'll have a better look next time, but she is the most glorious colour. She's one of Millies's breeding and an absolute gem.

Jenny

 

[beaker]

i've always thought of Owen as a blue/fawn brindle, blue for the stripe colour and fawn for the background colour,

 

[beaker]

rosa is down as a silver brindle even though she has black stripes on a pale fawn background

 

[beaker]

and we call Owens daughter Bindi a black brindle as the percentage of black brindling in the coat is high giving her a much darker appearance :thumbsup:

 

[dessie]

i've always thought of Owen as a blue/fawn brindle, blue for the stripe colour and fawn for the background colour,View attachment 44027

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rosa is down as a silver brindle even though she has black stripes on a pale fawn backgroundView attachment 44028

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and we call Owens daughter Bindi a black brindle as the percentage of black brindling in the coat is high giving her a much darker appearance  :thumbsup: View attachment 44029

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I would agree with all of those descriptons Beaker but would still only register them as either brindle or brindle particolour!!!

I try and comfort myself by calling Bertha a silver fawn blue brindle cos she looks a bit too brown (even though its a pale brown!! :blink: ) for my liking! :lol:



Now this is what I CALL a blue brindle



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[dessie]

Oooh! sorry, it seems I have managed to attach Bertha twice (I am not referring to her as the blue brindle but to Aimee at the bottom!!!)

 

[~elizabeth~]

I think "Black brindle" is a completely useless term; if you are referring to just the stripes, all brindles are black if they aren't blue surely? if we're talking about the background colour, a black background and black stripes is just a black dog (w00t) :lol: :wacko:

Why not just call them dark brindles or refer to them as heavily brindled, it would be much clearer. Also if a dog is heavily marked, the fawn bits tend to look lighter just as an optical effect from the extreme contrast of the two colours; look at the same lighter patches in comparison to a mid-fawn dog and they are usually exactly the same colour, so I think silver-brindle is a bit suspect as a description too, unless the background colour is extremely light indeed (although this does exist and is very attractive).

Dessie, they are both blue brindle as they've both got dilute markings; the second is a heavily-marked blue brindle.

 

[dessie]

I think "Black brindle" is a completely useless term; if you are referring to just the stripes, all brindles are black if they aren't blue surely? if we're talking about the background colour, a black background and black stripes is just a black dog  (w00t)   :lol:   :wacko:
Why not just call them dark brindles or refer to them as heavily brindled, it would be much clearer. Also if a dog is heavily marked, the fawn bits tend to look lighter just as an optical effect from the extreme contrast of the two colours; look at the same lighter patches in comparison to a mid-fawn dog and they are usually exactly the same colour, so I think silver-brindle is a bit suspect as a description too, unless the background colour is extremely light indeed (although this does exist and is very attractive).

Dessie, they are both blue brindle as they've both got dilute markings; the second is a heavily-marked blue brindle.

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I agree in theory but people like fancy names and are not particularly bothered by the genetics behind it all. Also, if you haven't seen a dog in the flesh, you may want a more detailed idea of its colour. It's a bit like putting a face to a name!!

I have, in my mind's eye, different dogs that I would use as a reference for colour .......... if someone said blue brindle I would immediately think of Aimee or Ronan, black brindle and I would picture Django or TJ/Sophie. Fawn brindle and I would think of little old Sophie and so on. Tiger brindle immediately conjures up a real red fawn background with black stripes ....... very striking and you know exactly what colour it is by the description. It is the in-betweeny interdeterminate ones (like Bertha) that are the problem, who I would still describe as a fawn brindle rather than a blue brindle!

 

[beaker]

ok ... my black brindle :thumbsup:



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[Seraphina]

I think it is very important to register dogs with their colour described as accurately as possible, according to their genetic make up. As Millie said: brindle is a fawn with stripes, the stripes are black if the dog has full pigmented “D†gene or blue if it has diluted “dâ€gene. The shade of fawn is determined by some, not yet identified, modifying genes.

Calling dog “silver brindleâ€, is meaningless as it does not tell you if he is full pigmented or blue dilute. When I look back over pedigrees I am looking for facts, and when the colours in the dogs’ pedigrees do not add up, I would question the veracity of the pedigree. To describe the colours by some fancy names is like telling me the dog is “cute†when I want to know what his conformation is like.

 

[Millie]

This is such an interesting topic.  Most days when we are out we meet the most beautiful little lady who I always  think of as silver brindle, I'll have a better look next time, but she is the most glorious colour.  She's one of Millies's breeding and an absolute gem.
Jenny

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Would this be Tara ? Jenny

Have not heard from them in ages.

 

[quintessence]

Yes it is Tara, I went out earlier today and didn't see her but I'll try and get a picture of her. Everyone in my area knows Tara becasue she is such a calm, gentle little girl, she always gives us a lovely greeting, I adore her.

I'm not creeping here but I have a theory that you can tell how good a breeder is by the quality of the puppies they sell to pet homes, Tara has quality stamped all over her, we witnessed it again a few weeks ago when we were stopped by someone in a car and they got out with their bitch puppy, an absolutely beautiful puppy, it turned out it was Monty's sister bred by Cathie, again a lovely pet home but a little gem of a whippet.

Jenny

 

[beaker]

maybe it's coz i'm a simple soul :- " but i like things to have simple meanings

so it makes sense to me to state the colour of the stripe first then the colour of the background second eg,

blue stripe fawn background... blue/fawn brindle

black stripe fawn background... black/fawn brindle

black stripe red background... black/red brindle

calling something lemon brindle or cream brindle doesn't give me any idea what the stripe colour is..

calling it black/lemon brindle or blue/cream brindle would :thumbsup:

the only exceptions to me would be where the brindling is so dense that the background colour is hard to make out so in these cases

black brindle or blue brindle works for me

i have been trying find out the colours of as many of the ancestors in my dogs pedigree's as i can and some of the vague discriptions leave me with no idea as to what colour the dogs actually are :blink:

some guideline would surely help :cheers:

 

[Macha]

I think it is very important to register dogs with their colour described as accurately as possible, according to their genetic make up.  As Millie said: brindle is a fawn with stripes, the stripes are black if the dog has full pigmented “D†gene or blue if it has diluted “dâ€gene.  The shade of fawn is determined by some, not yet identified, modifying genes.Calling dog “silver brindleâ€, is meaningless as it does not tell you if he is full pigmented or blue dilute.  ...

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my dog has black stripes (on a fairly light fawn background) but a bluish muzzle ... what is the genetic interpretation

 

[Fleesh]

Blaze has always been known as a blue brindle :thumbsup:

Her skin tone (clearly seen due to her being a baldie) is quite dark. Her littermates (all boys) were two blues and a red brindle. From the previous litter there were a blue brindle bitch and dog (the dog was Blaze's double in colour, temperament and personality too) with a blue bitch and a black dog. The blue brindle bitch produced a blue brindle bitch also Blaze's double.

For those interested in genetics I know on the dams side that the Dam and her litter brother were both what I would describe as blue fawn (dark skin with fawn coat) and the other sister was red brindle. On the sires side he was black and his sire was black from predominanatly black lines. Greyhound mother was apparently the spit of Blaze in colour and temperament too (the bloke who had the grand-dam didn't know Blaze was related when he told me about the greyhound bitch he had that was "just like that nutcase" .)

Aren't brindles ace :wub:

 

[Seraphina]

I think it is very important to register dogs with their colour described as accurately as possible, according to their genetic make up.  As Millie said: brindle is a fawn with stripes, the stripes are black if the dog has full pigmented “D†gene or blue if it has diluted “dâ€gene.  The shade of fawn is determined by some, not yet identified, modifying genes.Calling dog “silver brindleâ€, is meaningless as it does not tell you if he is full pigmented or blue dilute.  ...

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my dog has black stripes (on a fairly light fawn background) but a bluish muzzle ... what is the genetic interpretation

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Sorry but if dog has the blue diluting gene ALL the black hair is diluted to blue. If your dog's muzzle is grey, that is caused by gene that causes the mask to go grey and eventually almost white, but it would have started black.

 

[sharron]

So have i got it right zeb is a black brindle?

dont know what has colour has parents were. but has brother who was with him was much lighter then him.

so is this a orange brindle?

(w00t)