Where Would You Advertise Your Puppies for Sale

[Seraphina]

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No it doesn't however, those who care about their reputation and the breed will endevour to benefit the breed as a whole in the future, In order to do this you would have to be very knowledgable about all your particular breeds bloodlines. With time, knowledge and experience these individuals establish an excellent reputation and would have no need to advertise and what advertising they did would be through reputable bodies or word of mouth.

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What reputable bodies? Anybody can join a breed club, and it is usually sometime AFTER they join you realise they are doing things they should not. Like belting out a litter every few months.

 

[BeeJay]

>I obtained both my dogs from K9 in this manner as stated above. I came onto K9 looking for a whippet, spoke to a few of the breeders on the telephone and emailed some too. I never met the puppy beforehand or the breeder and they never met me until the day I bought my puppies. So does that make me a bad owner......

Don't be so defensive. I've never said that that will make you or anyone a bad owner. But if prospective dog buyers don't see a puppy in the nest interacting with it's siblings and it's dam. Also how it's been raised then it's a much bigger risk to take when buying it which is why it's standard advice from ANY dog welfare organisation. See the puppy at home with it's siblings and dam before buying. It the advice from the organisations that have to pick up the pieces when dog ownership doesn't work out.

I've just realised that I never pointed out that I was writing about buyers who have pups delivered to them, so never see the breeders home or the pups in the nest with their dams.

 

[BeeJay]

>I dont think that makes you a bad owner at all. At the end of the day it may not be practical to go to the breeders establishment several times as they may live quite a bit away. Speaking on the phone or e-mail can give a good idea of the persons personality. It is not always possible to continually visit a breeder whom you would like to get a pup from.

Well that's a leap from what I said isn't it. Just to clarify things. I said NEVER visit the breeder. NEVER SEE THE PUP IN THE BREEDERS HOME WITH IT'S SIBLINGS OR DAM.

Nowt about several times. But not to visit the breeder once? How does the prospective owner KNOW how the pup is being kept. How does the prospective owner know what the dam is like.

Answer they don't. The dogs could be kept in hellish conditions for all they know.

I want to see where my pups are living, I want to see their mother, I want to see her condition. I want to see how the other dogs are kept. I want to hold a prospective pup in my hand and check it's condition for myself and to meet it.

In short I want to know whether the breeder I'm buying off is a good one. Because if the breeder isn't a good one then IMO they won't care about the choice of stud dog, they won't care how the bitch was looked after when she was in whelp, they won't care about how the pups are raised. Basically they won't care about my future dog because they don't care about the dogs that they already have and if they aren't a good breeder they don't care about the dogs that they are exploiting for financial or egotistical gain.

 

[Seraphina]

I want to see where my pups are living, I want to see their mother, I want to see her condition.  I want to see how the other dogs are kept.  I want to hold a prospective pup in my hand and check it's condition for myself and to meet it.

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Yes that would be ideal, but life rarely is. The problem is that what you are shown is not necesarily the real situation. People with plenty of space can bring the dam an pups to the house when they try to sell them. I have seen that being done. Unless you are allowed to inspect all the sheds and garages on the property you can never be sure. Then there are the puppy farmers who breed somewhere in the country and the pups are sold by friend in the city. Some people can be very charming and it takes lot more than few superficail contacts to judge the person corectly. Anybody can learn the right things to say.

 

[BeeJay]

I want to see where my pups are living, I want to see their mother, I want to see her condition.  I want to see how the other dogs are kept.  I want to hold a prospective pup in my hand and check it's condition for myself and to meet it.

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Yes that would be ideal, but life rarely is. The problem is that what you are shown is not necesarily the real situation. People with plenty of space can bring the dam an pups to the house when they try to sell them. I have seen that being done. Unless you are allowed to inspect all the sheds and garages on the property you can never be sure. Then there are the puppy farmers who breed somewhere in the country and the pups are sold by friend in the city. Some people can be very charming and it takes lot more than few superficail contacts to judge the person corectly. Anybody can learn the right things to say.

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yes I agree. That's why it's best to buy off people who have been reccommended. In short a reputable breeder which is someone whose reputation reccomends them.

Prospective buyers have to do their homework because IMO it's vitally important to them because THEY not the breeder are going to live with that dog for 10+ years.

There is no reason for people to be buying from puppy farmers.

 

[conway]

[quote=Seraphina,Jun 2 2006, 02:36 I wish that the people who do not advertise would tell us how exactly they sell their pups?

I put my website, but that is not strictly the truth. I certainly announce the birth of my litters on my website and keep posting new pics every other day. So people who have puppy booked can look at them and follow their progress. That is excellent especially with children who cannot wait to collect their puppy.

I get my buyers mainly through the club, but I really do not think it matters where a breeders find buyers, as long as they vet them properly.

I also posted my last litter here on k9, I am so glad I am so far from UK, so I could share my babies with all of you, and nobody could accuse me of trying to flog my pups here.

i can tell you how i sell my pups, they are ordered a year before they are born.

i also think it does matter to where the pups go i want my pups to go to a good racing home, if you want a pet whippet then get a pet not a racer.

imo too many people are breeding for the sake of it you need to think why am i breeding, do i want one , is my bitch worth breeding, and do you have homes for the pups. then think again.

it seems strange to me that people breed before they have homes for their offspring or are they doing it for the money)

i have never had too look for a home for one of my pups, does that tell you something.

 

[BeeJay]

i can tell you how i sell my pups, they are ordered a year before they are born.

i also think it does matter to where the pups go i want my pups to go to a good racing home,  if you want a pet whippet then get a pet not a racer.

imo too many people are breeding for the sake of it you need to think why am i breeding, do i want one , is my bitch worth breeding, and do you have homes for the pups. then think again.

it seems strange to me that people breed before they have homes for their offspring or are they doing it for the money)

i have never had too look for a home for one of my pups,  does that tell you something.

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Well, yes that tells me you have successfull racing dogs and have probably been involved with that for some time. But, everybody has to start somewhere. it is not reasonable to expect person who is having their first litter to have a queue for their pups. You do not get a good name untill you breed few litters. I breed to get a pup to show for myself and prefer for the rest of them to go to loving pet homes, rather to show homes. Because if they do not wim big, they will very likely be looking for a new home in the next few months. By the way, as even in racing not everybody can win, what does happent to your 1 year ahead booked pups if they do not run as well as was expected?

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Well see I know the Conway's and I can tell you that they did have a list of people wanting a pup from their bitch's first litter and an even bigger one for the 2nd litter. Cassie is a top bitch, carrying top lines. They used two very good dogs. So of course there was a list of people wanting pups and yep some of them were unlucky. The same will be true of their next litter which will be from Cassie's daughter another top winning bitch. They only breed from top winning bitches you see AND they don't breed every year ONLY when they want a pup themselves and have a cue of folks they know wanting one.

Racing breeders want their pups to go to racing homes, because they KNOW the buyers or if they don't then people that they know and trust will know them. They can see their pups on a regular basis and so they can see that they are being treated well. Racing breeders are very involved with their puppies for the rest of the dogs lives.

We peddie racers rarely dump our dogs because they aren't winners. You really need to get your facts straight here. We are all aware of the few people in racing who do move dogs on. As a result we can choose not to sell them a pup and not to buy one off them. Because they are good responsible breeders the Conways would never have allowed their pups to go to homes where people did such things.

 

[Judy]

By the way, as even in racing not everybody can win, what does happent to your 1 year ahead booked pups if they do not run as well as was expected?

As racing people are well aware, you can't have expectations of how well a dog will run. Its impossible to tell anyway untill they are between 1 and 2 years old and although being bred from good parents does help, its no guarentee. This means that right from the start racing owners have to accept that their dog may not be that fast. If they're not, the huge majority keep them and still race them even though they might not win. The few who do pass them on find it diffficult to get another.

 

[Judy]

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So Sorry Seraphina I've deleted your post by accident when I was quoting from it. My super powers are obviously too hard to handle sometimes :b