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Being new to the show scene, is there anywhere that you can find out about particular judges and there preferences?? :blink:

Liz
 
jakers said:
Being new to the show scene, is there anywhere that you can find out about particular judges and there preferences?? :blink:
Liz

You can go to shows and watch what they do :)
 
Seraphina said:
jakers said:
Being new to the show scene, is there anywhere that you can find out about particular judges and there preferences?? :blink:
Liz

You can go to shows and watch what they do :)

Thanks - in the GSD breed (of which we have two) there are various website that specify judges and the types of dogs they prefer, I know there is a divide in the GSD between english and german but I wondered if there was an such sites in the whippet breed.

Liz
 
But that would be far too easy, wouldnt it :lol:

The South Yorkshire Whippet Club results book that comes out every year is a great sourse of info , and now that it has the critiques in too even better , :D

of course thats not much use to you is it :oops: So you will just have to try each and every one , just like I did when I started . :- "

Apart from that , a judge can only put up whats there :- " , so if the entry is , say all fawns , then like as not thats all they will put up .

As long as they `do their own thing ` im happy :cheers:

sorry to be so unhelpful :huggles:
 
Clearly I have asked a question out of turn :oops: . I am completely baffled by the difference between breeds and what happens for one breed doesn't happen in another. Thanks for the information tho, I shall now go away feeling like a right plonker :unsure:

Liz
 
JAX said:
But that would be far too easy, wouldnt it  :lol:

The South Yorkshire Whippet Club results book that comes out every year is a great sourse of info , and now that it has the critiques in too even better , :D

of course thats not much use to you is it  :oops: So you will just have to try each and every one , just like I did when I started . :- " 

Apart from that , a judge can only put up whats there  :- " , so if the entry is , say all fawns , then like as not thats all they will put up .

As long as they `do their own thing ` im happy  :cheers:

sorry to be so unhelpful  :huggles:

agreed and you might also try & get hold of some of the Whippet Biennials which print the CC's and RCCs won each year by judge and show and also look at what is being bred by that person. But as Jax says they can only put up what is there on the day so this can sometimes be misleading.

:luck: Good luck in the future, it is a learning curve. You can get advice from other exhibitors but it is usually best to make up your own mind by going to the shows :) enjoy....
 
There's no need to feel stupid.

You will in time learn which judges like which 'types' of whippet and if they will like your dog or not. As Jax said study the results from last time they judged and it's probably worth giving most people an entry first time round.

Ask your dogs breeder for any advice, if her dogs have got placed under the judge before etc.

Good luck and enjoy it! :luck:
 
ive been learning for the last 4 years which judges like my dog , a slow maturing brindle , thought id got the hang of it slightly untill jan produced me a very mature fawn (w00t) so here i go again :sweating: forever learning :lol:

it is hard because it is trial and error , good luck im sure you will get there , as already said the breeder should be a good source of wisdom :thumbsup:
 
I thnk its moe like trial and error, i ted to show under everyone once and make up my own mind.

Even if i dont get placed under judge **** but can follow their placings, then may take a different dog under them another time.
 
so you only show if under certain judges ie if they like your type colour etc bit like only racing against dogs slower than yours? kinda defeats the object what ever happened to the breed standard ?
 
masta said:
so you only show if  under certain judges ie if they like your type colour etc bit like only racing against dogs slower than yours? kinda defeats the object
It's what makes showing so objective and meaningful. And breeding for colour is only a sin if the colour is black, not fawn of course.
 
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masta said:
so you only show if  under certain judges ie if they like your type colour etc bit like only racing against dogs slower than yours? kinda defeats the object what ever happened to the breed standard ?
Well, if for instance there would be a judge who told me that that there is no such a thing as a good blue whippet, i would not bother to show under him my blue bitch. Would you? Actually, i would not bother to give him my entry with my red one either.
 
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Seraphina said:
masta said:
so you only show if  under certain judges ie if they like your type colour etc bit like only racing against dogs slower than yours? kinda defeats the object what ever happened to the breed standard ?
Well, if for instance there would be a judge who told me that that there is no such a thing as a good blue whippet, i would not bother to show under him my blue bitch. Would you? Actually, i would not bother to give him my entry with my red one either.

i would report them to the govening body ask for a written explanation why? point out they are there to judge what is front of them on the day, what if it was a class entirely of blues? "i would not give him my entry" dont understand? it would make me more determined to put blues in front of him/her
 
masta said:
i would report them to the govening body ask for a written explanation why?
It was not in a show, it was during personal conversation, and it was not as ouvert as I put it here.

point out they are there to judge what is front of them on the day, what if it was a class entirely of blues? "
Well. that is just not going to happen here. There are couple of blues here somewhere in Australia, but it has been long time since i have seen another one in a show.

i would not give him my entry" dont understand? it would make me more determined to put blues in front of him/her
I would not waste my money on entries under somebody whose opinion I know I do not respect.
 
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:oops: :oops: :oops: didn't mean to open a can of worms but as you say I wouldn't put our GSDs under some judges as I know they prefer the "English" type as there would be no point, really just wanted to know if there's anything like that for whippets.

I'll learn and put MR Zig under as many as I can and see how we go, was just hoping that I could gleen information as this is a completely new breed to me, yes I agree all dogs whatever type should be judged against the breed standard, but in my opinion it depends on a judges interpretation of that standard.
 
I am unable to attend many shows and my criteria for entering is 'if I can go I will', I don't really think too much about will he/she like my dog's type, it's usually 'great - a day out with other whippet people'. I enjoy my shows, if I win something it's a bonus, if not there's always next time. Your dog will not please every judge and the judge will not please every exhibitor, but if you are enjoying your showing that's the main thing, the time to be concerned is if you are not enjoying it.

Whippets are a very competitive breed and just to make the cut at some shows is an achievement. Just enter your shows and enjoy it.

Jenny
 
Completely agree with you here Jenny . :huggles:

I go to most shows I can with pups , Those judges who I think will be gentle with my dogs and give an honest opinion. Ive had many a placing from judges to who I thought id have little chance and nothing under those who I would have thought liked my stock :eek:

Its all down to what is in the ring with you , as long as my dogs go well for me and we both have a good day out its no big deal to go unplaced ( wel it is really ;) ) but it looks nicer for me to say that :lol:

I think it would be great fun to have a new breed where you know nothing about the judges at all ( expensive maybe )

Oh to be innocent :cheers: and a breed virgin :oops: :lol:
 
I show under most judges in our area but if there is a show were I have ben under that judge before an know he/she doesn't like my dog I wouldn't enter tha dog under him again. I have a litle bok were I write down the judges name the show how many in the class and my dogs placing.

I used to listen to people saying this judge will like your dog but found out many times it was not the case. We were at a champ show a while ago when I was sked why I had entered my brindle dog Owen the judge only likes little fawns I was told .Owen made the last 8 out of a class of 22 ok he wasn't placed but I was pleased that he made the cut.

I do think it is very much a case of trial and error when you first start out you need to find out which judges like your dog and the only sure way is to show under them
 
masta said:
Seraphina said:
masta said:
so you only show if  under certain judges ie if they like your type colour etc bit like only racing against dogs slower than yours? kinda defeats the object what ever happened to the breed standard ?
Well, if for instance there would be a judge who told me that that there is no such a thing as a good blue whippet, i would not bother to show under him my blue bitch. Would you? Actually, i would not bother to give him my entry with my red one either.

i would report them to the govening body ask for a written explanation why? point out they are there to judge what is front of them on the day, what if it was a class entirely of blues? "i would not give him my entry" dont understand? it would make me more determined to put blues in front of him/her

A judge can only place what is in front of him or her, i would not waste in excess of £20 per class to show under a judge who imo wouldnt like the type/colour etc of MY dogs.

As for reporting them !! in the end, judging is all about someone opinion,
 
I have taken advice and have entered as many as I am able to get to, even then it's as many as either myself or my husband can get to! Trouble is many show are in august - a really busy time for the jobs we do. If only we all had the money and time to just show dogs - wouldn't life be bliss!!! :cheers:
 
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