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[NEILPEM]

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do you think they are of any use, as ive stood and watched dogs trapping to see how they come out, and to me allthough probably wrong they seem to be pushing off with there front legs.

 

[Paws123]

well acording to this year proposel forms the results could of gone either way for banning them. the only problem would be dogs that are running now use to them would have problems, we could bann  the use of boards in puppys but as they got older and had to compete with older dogs that were running on spring boards  would have the upper hand, also on the bends if you had a dog at 20lb say the larger dogs would win because of the size of the traps that just my oppinion. Ive seen a lot of injurys been brought on since the spring board came  in to racing

 

[NEILPEM]

does nobody else have any views on kickbords?

 

[Vicky]

I agree with Denise as far as injuries go, whether they go or stay though everyone will be in the same boat once the dogs get used to the change, i do see what she means re little dogs (16/18lbers) in greyhound traps but even with boards in it's very rare that they will win a final anyway.  So in their weight class they will all be the same.

 

[Fleesh]

JUST BROWSING AND SAW THIS I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE END TO THE USE OF KICK BOARDS IT WOULD SPEED UP RACING AND CREATE A MORE LEVEL PLAYINGFIELD PLUS LESS STUFF TO TAKE TO RACING, JUDITH

 

[stevedeb]

few years back a mate of mine hada trap and one side of it was made of perspex(see through) i watched quite a few dogs,whippets and greyhounds come out of it , from what i can remember they all pushed away with their front legs thenbrought their back legs round to get the second push

IMO I Think for whippets at bend racing it is a good idea to use spring boards (size of dog inside a large trap)

but not sure about the straights though. just as a post script our dog ran with out a spring board and flew out of the traps once then the next time at the scotish derby he fell out so i dont really know if they help or not sure their are people with a lot more experience than me on here that could open up this topic further

 

[sherry]

few years back a mate of mine hada trap and one side of it was made of perspex(see through) i watched quite a few dogs,whippets and greyhounds come out of it , from what i can remember they all pushed away with their front legs thenbrought their back legs round to get the second pushIMO I Think for whippets at bend racing it is a good idea to use spring boards (size of dog inside a large trap)

but not sure about the straights though. just as a post script our dog ran with out a spring board and flew out of the traps once then the next time at the scotish derby he fell out so i dont really know if they help or not sure their are people with a lot more experience than me on here that could open up this topic further

this topic has in the past being discussed @ great lengths IMO if u dont want to use one then dont. once @ the proposals it was brought in not to use them then there was an EGM to overturn this rule. to me its a bit like a swimmer kicking off the side of the pool if u get wot i mean.

 

[Fleesh]

IF NO ONE HAD A TRAPBOARD THET COULD ALLCOME OUT SLOWLY TOGETHER, JUDITH

 

[milly]

I'm in favour of kick-board's, regarding dogs getting injured through the use of kick-board's, thats probably caused by having the wrong dimension's for the size of your dog in relation to the size of the trap.

 

[Karen-Coral]

does nobody else have any views on kickbords?

YES Neil ---back to normal EH?

I have always said kick boards should not be used the dogs dont need them --

not having kickboards would be a fairer way of running relying on the dogs own ability---

rather than being helped--

In my opinion would produce much closer racing as in the past you often got really fast dogs out of the traps who were not as fast running as some---

So made a yard or two at the traps but very often others that did not trap to well could run faster therefore caught up

It made for much better races without all the injuries that kickboards cause

As with most things in whippet racing there are lots of retrograde steps taken --

just my thoughts

steve

 

[DavidH]

KICK BOARDS GIVE 2/3 YARDS OUT OF THE BOXS.

BUT IF YOU BANNED THEM THINK THE BENDS WOULD HAVE TO USE WHIPPET TRAPS AS THE GREYHOUND TRAPS WOULD BE FAR TO BIG.

PITY SOMEONE HASNT MADE A TRAP WITH A PERSPEX SIDE SO WE COULD SEE WHAT THEY DO, EVEN FILM IT.WITH AND WITHOUT A BOARD.WILL LOOK INTO IT SEE IF I CAN GET SOME RESULTS ON HERE,SOMIT TO DO WHEN YOUVE GOT NOWT TO RUN :rant: :wacko:

GREYHOUND DONT USE THEM AND THEY GET OUT,WONDER IF THEY GET MANY WHIP MUSCLE INJURYS??????

 

[Doobryfirkin]

they do not use them in ped racing

Tony

 

[Karen-Coral]

KICK BOARDS GIVE 2/3 YARDS OUT OF THE BOXS.BUT IF YOU BANNED THEM THINK THE BENDS WOULD HAVE TO USE WHIPPET TRAPS AS THE GREYHOUND TRAPS WOULD BE FAR TO BIG.

PITY SOMEONE HASNT MADE A TRAP WITH A PERSPEX SIDE SO WE COULD SEE WHAT THEY DO, EVEN FILM IT.WITH AND WITHOUT A BOARD.WILL LOOK INTO IT SEE IF I CAN GET SOME RESULTS ON HERE,SOMIT TO DO WHEN YOUVE GOT NOWT TO RUN :rant: :wacko:

GREYHOUND DONT USE THEM AND THEY GET OUT,WONDER IF THEY GET MANY WHIP MUSCLE INJURYS??????

David they dont give anything only injuries ---if all dogs ran without as they used too it would be a level playing feild

Surely that is the aim -- you will always get the good trapers same as bad ones with or without boards

steve

 

[wild whippies]

I think some dogs pull and some push. Not got many greyhound racing piks but I think I've got a few somewhere where the dogs are grabbing the front edge of the trap and pulling themselves forward.

Probably quickest examples I can give with whippets are from this years Flying Imp Open

http://wildwhippies.myphotoalbum.com/view_...umName=album196

 

[milly]

I wonder if athletes get injuries from using these?

 

[wild whippies]

I wonder if athletes get injuries from using these?

Apparently, only if they're not trained http://www.athletesacceleration.com/startingblocks.html

Reading this makes the whole thing sound quite complex and makes me think dogs that are good trappers are a lot smarter than we think.

 

[milly]

I think some dogs pull and some push. Not got many greyhound racing piks but I think I've got a few somewhere where the dogs are grabbing the front edge of the trap and pulling themselves forward. Probably quickest examples I can give with whippets are from this years Flying Imp Open

http://wildwhippies.myphotoalbum.com/view_...umName=album196

The only thing I can detect from them pics Jac's, bloody slow traps, another cause of injuries :rant:

 

[wild whippies]

I'm declining from commenting on that Geoff because some weren't impressed with the fact I'd got these photos. Certainly wasn't my intention to cause upset.

What I'm on about is some of the dogs pull themselves forward like blue in the shot below.

http://wildwhippies.myphotoalbum.com/view_...;id=clipboard19

I'm not sure but suspect those that come out the boxes low down are pullers and those that push are higher up. Going on the starting blocks link, I'd of thought pushers would be out faster due to the acceleration, however as the pullers don't have to wait for the door to be fully open, I suspect it makes things even. This is just a theory of course!

 

[friggsy]

DO AWAY WITH THEM THEN ITS THE SAME FOR EVERYONE OMP

 

[wild whippies]

I don't think it would be the same for everyone though. The big dogs may trap no different- they could push off the back door of the traps. The little one's I'd of thought would loose yards straight away purely on the length of the traps. This was done in the past wasn't it? What happened?