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[lalena]

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p.s remember there are many poisonous foods for dogs that should never be given e.g raisins/grapes/onion/chocolate etc...hope this helps :thumbsup:

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whats wrong with onions? amber would kill me if she didnt get any

as my kids are anti-vegetable, i put onions and tomatoes into their gravy and puree it, and both dogs go crazy over the leftover poured on their dinner. amber has been eating onions in this way for over two years. please tell me!

 

[masta]

p.s remember there are many poisonous foods for dogs that should never be given e.g raisins/grapes/onion/chocolate etc...hope this helps :thumbsup:

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whats wrong with onions? amber would kill me if she didnt get any

as my kids are anti-vegetable, i put onions and tomatoes into their gravy and puree it, and both dogs go crazy over the leftover poured on their dinner. amber has been eating onions in this way for over two years. please tell me!

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"Onion poisoning can occur with a single ingestion of large quantities or with repeated meals containing small amounts of onion. A single meal of 600 to 800 grams of raw onion can be dangerous whereas a ten-kilogram dog, fed 150 grams of onion for several days, is also likely to develop anaemia. The condition improves once the dog is prevented from eating any further onion"

when some one say's a food is poison to a dog it tends to be when it is ingested in large quants i'm sure a dog eating onion every now and then is not going to die in fact it is probaly of some good onions are supposed to be a natural antibiotic same as garlic?

 

[dessie]

and yes dessie it was hils. :rant:

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Oh! and why am I not surprised! LOL!

They don't HAVE to have vegetables, meat/tripe and biscuit/mixer/rice/pasta/bread or whatever are fine. As Janimal said, Dorwest do a supplement called Easy Green amongst others, or you could add seaweed powder or any other proprietary multivitamin supplement.

I do use pre-cooked/packed products like Nature's Menu, Naturediet and tinned Butchers tripe as a change. I have never had problems with Butchers tripe having adverse effects on them and mine go mad for it!

Good luck!

 

[05whippet]

I feed a good quality extruded dry food to all our dogs but it is supplemented with fresh tripe,veg and fruit.It is just that I prefer this method to the BARF no other reason )

Try giving scrambled egg for a few days or plain boiled rice as suggested until the diahorrea clears up.

 

[lawleymoon]

and yes dessie it was hils. :rant:

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Oh! and why am I not surprised! LOL!

They don't HAVE to have vegetables, meat/tripe and biscuit/mixer/rice/pasta/bread or whatever are fine. As Janimal said, Dorwest do a supplement called Easy Green amongst others, or you could add seaweed powder or any other proprietary multivitamin supplement.

I do use pre-cooked/packed products like Nature's Menu, Naturediet and tinned Butchers tripe as a change. I have never had problems with Butchers tripe having adverse effects on them and mine go mad for it!

Good luck!

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thanks dessie i will get some easy green i have been on there web site and that sounds good :cheers:

 

[lawleymoon]

and yes dessie it was hils. :rant:

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Oh! and why am I not surprised! LOL!

They don't HAVE to have vegetables, meat/tripe and biscuit/mixer/rice/pasta/bread or whatever are fine. As Janimal said, Dorwest do a supplement called Easy Green amongst others, or you could add seaweed powder or any other proprietary multivitamin supplement.

I do use pre-cooked/packed products like Nature's Menu, Naturediet and tinned Butchers tripe as a change. I have never had problems with Butchers tripe having adverse effects on them and mine go mad for it!

Good luck!

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thanks dessie i will get some easy green i have been on there web site and that sounds good :cheers:

 

[Seraphina]

Absolute rubbish!!  I suppose your Vet wants you to buy the Hills Science Diet that he can supply as well (for which he gets commission)
As long as she is getting a balanced diet, meat, veg  and biscuits is perfectly fine!!!  If she has an upset tummy at the moment chicken or fish and rice, something bland anyway, although I have never found tripe upset mine!!!

If she has never had complete feed I should think changing her onto that straight away would be GUARANTEED to give her the squits!

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Vets pushing Hills diet makes me furious, I have seen dogs getting worth and worth on it, but the vet insists that is the only healthy diet. (w00t) Surely this is the most outrageous conflict of interest. :rant:

For the squits I would get some skinless chicken plus some extra carcases, boil the carcases for a long time then add the chicken meat until tender, get ALL the bones out and skim any fat, and cook short grain white rice in the broth untill very soft. Apparently there is something in the old wifes tale, it was found that chicken soup has a mild antibiotic properties. And the white glutenous rice helps to settle the stomach. When she is better you can progress to brown rice, add some carots, stop removing fat ect.

I would also ad nice big dollop of pro biotic yogurt, or give acidophilus capsule - that is actually the first thing I do if any of my dogs gets upset tummy. :luck:

 

[OEH]

What is wrong with grapes for dogs ? Really worried now, as Tessie gets one quite often as she looooooves them. What have I been doing to her

My vet tried to push Hills too and it made Tess's coat really dry and dandruffy and she was much bouncier when we took her off it.

 

[alfyn]

I agree with what Dessie has said,as usual

I'm not going to start off on my opinion of your vet & the Hills crap :rant: ,but will just add that Tree barks powder is brilliant for upset tummies,available from Dorwest herbs :thumbsup:

 

[lalena]

p.s remember there are many poisonous foods for dogs that should never be given e.g raisins/grapes/onion/chocolate etc...hope this helps :thumbsup:

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whats wrong with onions? amber would kill me if she didnt get any

as my kids are anti-vegetable, i put onions and tomatoes into their gravy and puree it, and both dogs go crazy over the leftover poured on their dinner. amber has been eating onions in this way for over two years. please tell me!

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"Onion poisoning can occur with a single ingestion of large quantities or with repeated meals containing small amounts of onion. A single meal of 600 to 800 grams of raw onion can be dangerous whereas a ten-kilogram dog, fed 150 grams of onion for several days, is also likely to develop anaemia. The condition improves once the dog is prevented from eating any further onion"

when some one say's a food is poison to a dog it tends to be when it is ingested in large quants i'm sure a dog eating onion every now and then is not going to die in fact it is probaly of some good onions are supposed to be a natural antibiotic same as garlic?

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:sweating: phew! she only has about 1/3 of an onion twice a week and always cooked before i puree it in the gravy. though her main meal is complete dried food, because i find it good for teeth and jaw, i've always made a point of giving her porridge or weetabix for breakfast, and a varied small meal of rice, pasta, vegetables, sardines, tuna and meat. never forgetting a bone! shes never been anything but healthy. in two and a half years shes only been to the vets, barring jabs, twice. once for conjunctivitus and when she was whelping.

 

[masta]

What is wrong with grapes for dogs ?  Really worried now, as Tessie gets one quite often as she looooooves them.  What have I been doing to her
My vet tried to push Hills too and it made Tess's coat really dry and dandruffy and she was much bouncier when we took her off it.

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same as the onion reply lots of foods are upsetting/poison but you would hve to feed large amounts on a very regular basis for them to cause real problems

 

[masta]

interesting site on nutrition

http://www.rainmakerkennels.co.uk/

 

[~whitecross whippets~]

Chocolate contains theobromine, a compound that is a cardiac stimulant and a diuretic.

When affected by an overdose of chocolate, a dog can become excited and hyperactive. Due to the diuretic effect, it may pass large volumes of urine and it will be unusually thirsty. Vomiting and diarrhoea are also common. The effect of theobromine on the heart is the most dangerous effect. Theobromine will either increase the dog’s heart rate or may cause the heart to beat irregularly. Death is quite possible, especially with exercise.

After their pet has eaten a large quantity of chocolate, many pet owners assume their pet is unaffected. However, the signs of sickness may not be seen for several hours, with death following within twenty-four hours.

Cocoa powder and cooking chocolate are the most toxic forms. A 10-kilogram dog can be seriously affected if it eats a quarter of a 250gm packet of cocoa powder or half of a 250gm block of cooking chocolate. These forms of chocolate contain ten times more theobromine than milk chocolate. Thus, a chocolate mud cake could be a real health risk for a small dog. Even licking a substantial part of the chocolate icing from a cake can make a dog unwell.

Semi-sweet chocolate and dark chocolate are the next most dangerous forms, with milk chocolate being the least dangerous. A dog needs to eat more than a 250gm block of milk chocolate to be affected. Obviously, the smaller the dog, the less it needs to eat.

Onion and garlic poisoning

Onions and garlic are other dangerous food ingredients that cause sickness in dogs, cats and also livestock. Onions and garlic contain the toxic ingredient thiosulphate. Onions are more of a danger.

Pets affected by onion toxicity will develop haemolytic anaemia, where the pet’s red blood cells burst while circulating in its body.

At first, pets affected by onion poisoning show gastroenteritis with vomiting and diarrhoea. They will show no interest in food and will be dull and weak. The red pigment from the burst blood cells appears in an affected animal’s urine and it becomes breathless. The breathlessness occurs because the red blood cells that carry oxygen through the body are reduced in number.

The poisoning occurs a few days after the pet has eaten the onion. All forms of onion can be a problem including dehydrated onions, raw onions, cooked onions and table scraps containing cooked onions and/or garlic. Left over pizza, Chinese dishes and commercial baby food containing onion, sometimes fed as a supplement to young pets, can cause illness.

Onion poisoning can occur with a single ingestion of large quantities or with repeated meals containing small amounts of onion. A single meal of 600 to 800 grams of raw onion can be dangerous whereas a ten-kilogram dog, fed 150 grams of onion for several days, is also likely to develop anaemia. The condition improves once the dog is prevented from eating any further onion

While garlic also contains the toxic ingredient thiosulphate, it seems that garlic is less toxic and large amounts would need to be eaten to cause illness.

If your dog has ingested any of these foods, get veterinary help immediately

Grapes and Raisins: Grapes and raisins can cause kidney failure in dogs. As little as a single serving of raisins can kill a dog

Onions: Onions destroy red blood cells and can cause anemia.

Chocolate: Chocolate can cause seizures, coma and death. Baker’s chocolate is the most dangerous. A dog can consume milk chocolate and appear to be fine because it is not as concentrated, but it is still dangerous.

Coffee, Coffee grounds, tea and tea bags: Drinks/foods containing caffeine cause many of the same symptoms chocolate causes

HOPE THIS INFO HELPS!

 

[lalena]

interesting site on nutrition
http://www.rainmakerkennels.co.uk/

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fascinating! the only thing i wasnt too keen was letting dogs eat all bones, small in particular, given the choke risk etc. but it gives a very good overview of it all. :thumbsup: just need to get ninas vegetarian 'friend' to look at it!

 

[~JO~]

and yes dessie it was hils. :rant:

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I do use pre-cooked/packed products like Nature's Menu, Naturediet and tinned Butchers tripe as a change. I have never had problems with Butchers tripe having adverse effects on them and mine go mad for it!

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If I'm travelling or had a mind-lapse and forgotten to de-thaw any meat :blink: , I use either Forthglade or Nature Diet - mine seem to do fine on these and the quality of the ingredients is pretty damn good.

Hope Mini is starting to eat a bit better :thumbsup: Louis sends a big whippet bouncey-bouncey-bounce WOOF WOOF to his sister (if you knew him you'd get this!)

 

[dessie]

I agree with what Dessie has said,as usual 

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Scary!! (w00t)

I have never used the Tree Barks (is this the one with Slippery Elm??) powder but if it is I know several people who swear by it!!

 

[~whitecross whippets~]

What is wrong with grapes for dogs ?  Really worried now, as Tessie gets one quite often as she looooooves them.  What have I been doing to her
My vet tried to push Hills too and it made Tess's coat really dry and dandruffy and she was much bouncier when we took her off it.

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same as the onion reply lots of foods are upsetting/poison but you would hve to feed large amounts on a very regular basis for them to cause real problems

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sorry mate but that is not correct...it only takes a small amount once to actually kill a dog!

 

[goodasgold]

Our little girl loves redmills dried biscuit she was introduced to them when she was about 9 Weeks's has never had any kind of upset or the sqirts(how do you pick that up!!!) :x she is now 18 weeks old and along with the biscuits she gets the occasional bit of pasta and tripe or she will have tuna which you have to open the tin outside or she won't leave till she has had some.

also we have got her down to 1 meal a day which is also good and is happy to eat around 6.00pm then about 8.00pm she has a walk then she's off to -_- .till about 07.30am.

 

[alfyn]

I have never used the Tree Barks (is this the one with Slippery Elm??) powder but if it is I know several people who swear by it!!

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That's the stuff,but tree barks also has white poplar bark in it :thumbsup:

 

[alfyn]

Our little girl loves redmills dried biscuit she was introduced to them when she was about 9 Weeks's has never had any kind of upset or the sqirts(how do you pick that up!!!) :x   she is now 18 weeks old and along with the biscuits she gets the occasional bit of pasta and tripe or she will have tuna which you have to open  the tin outside or she won't leave till she has had some.                        also we have got her down to 1 meal a day which is also good and is happy to eat around 6.00pm then about 8.00pm she has a walk then she's off to  -_- .till about 07.30am.

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I can't believe that you are giving an 18 week old puppy just one meal a day (w00t)

She should be having at least 3 meals a day at this age!

If you give her all her daily ration in one go,you will put serious pressure on her system !