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alfyn said:
goodasgold said:
Our little girl loves redmills dried biscuit she was introduced to them when she was about 9 Weeks's has never had any kind of upset or the sqirts(how do you pick that up!!!) :x   she is now 18 weeks old and along with the biscuits she gets the occasional bit of pasta and tripe or she will have tuna which you have to open  the tin outside or she won't leave till she has had some.                        also we have got her down to 1 meal a day which is also good and is happy to eat around 6.00pm then about 8.00pm she has a walk then she's off to  -_- .till about 07.30am.

I can't believe that you are giving an 18 week old puppy just one meal a day (w00t)

She should be having at least 3 meals a day at this age!

If you give her all her daily ration in one go,you will put serious pressure on her system ! :(

Thats just what i was thiking Debs :oops: , India and Harvee at nearly 8 months are still on 3 meals a day :wacko:
 
~whitecross whippets~ said:
masta said:
OEH said:
What is wrong with grapes for dogs :eek: ?  Really worried now, as Tessie gets one quite often as she looooooves them.  What have I been doing to her :(
My vet tried to push Hills too and it made Tess's coat really dry and dandruffy and she was much bouncier when we took her off it.

same as the onion reply lots of foods are upsetting/poison but you would hve to feed large amounts on a very regular basis for them to cause real problems

sorry mate but that is not correct...it only takes a small amount once to actually kill a dog! :(


Renal failure associated with ingestion of grapes or raisins in dogs.” The Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association (JAVMA). May 15, 2001. Volume 218. Number 10. Pages 1555-1556.

the 10 cases of raisin/grape "poisoning" in the USA had eaten between 9oz - 2lb and the following statement was made "We recommend that ingestation of large amounts of grapes or raisins should be managed aggressively"

no mention of small amounts killing dogs
 
JAX said:
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I can't believe that you are giving an 18 week old puppy just one meal a day (w00t)

She should be having at least 3 meals a day at this age!

If you give her all her daily ration in one go,you will put serious pressure on her system ! :(

Thats just what i was thiking Debs :oops: , India and Harvee at nearly 8 months are still on 3 meals a day :wacko:




I used to always feed my pups 3 or more meals a day until they were about year, and I always had picky eaters. Last year friend of mine, breeder with a lifelong time experience, told me she only feeds her litters twice a day from the beginning. I did the same with my last litter and it worked, they were strong healthy pups and very good eaters.

Although I have to admit that my new baby Genevieve (10weeks old) is getting 3 meals a day. But I do tell her everyday, as I give her the midday meal, that is the last one and next day she is getting only 2… :b
 
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alfyn said:
goodasgold said:
Our little girl loves redmills dried biscuit she was introduced to them when she was about 9 Weeks's has never had any kind of upset or the sqirts(how do you pick that up!!!) :x   she is now 18 weeks old and along with the biscuits she gets the occasional bit of pasta and tripe or she will have tuna which you have to open  the tin outside or she won't leave till she has had some.                        also we have got her down to 1 meal a day which is also good and is happy to eat around 6.00pm then about 8.00pm she has a walk then she's off to  -_- .till about 07.30am.

I can't believe that you are giving an 18 week old puppy just one meal a day (w00t)

She should be having at least 3 meals a day at this age!

If you give her all her daily ration in one go,you will put serious pressure on her system ! :(

i can't see the point in dogs leaving two meals a day and only pissing about with the third, I have had my tilly on one meal a day for over a month now and she has put weight on since doing this. I have had working dogs for over 20 years and if anyone would like to criticise my feeding regeme then they are welcome to come and inspect my dogs. My dogs clean there dishes and are a picture of health, and my dogs work for there dinner, they don't sit in front of the fire all day.
 
mally said:
I can't believe that you are giving an 18 week old puppy just one meal a day (w00t)

She should be having at least 3 meals a day at this age!

If you give her all her daily ration in one go,you will put serious pressure on her system ! :(

i can't see the point in dogs leaving two meals a day and only pissing about with the third, I have had my tilly on one meal a day for over a month now and she has put weight on since doing this. I have had working dogs for over 20 years and if anyone would like to criticise my feeding regeme then they are welcome to come and inspect my dogs. My dogs clean there dishes and are a picture of health, and my dogs work for there dinner, they don't sit in front of the fire all day.





In the wild dogs would often go several days between meals and then when they managed to find (killl) some food they would gobble up as much as they could. So i doubt feeding once a day would put strain on their system. Actually, 40 years ago I did fast my dogs one day a week. They were healthy and fit, i used to take them for long walks and run them with a horse or pushbike up to about 8km at a time, almost daily.
 
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Don't lets turn this into a slanging match,eh????

Paul,i'm sure you're not suggesting that my dogs sit in front of the fire all day :blink: I know my lot don't "work",but they are well exercised & very fit!

My lot have 2 meals a day,plus a chicken wing,& they all scoff their food without hesitation!

What i'm saying is that their daily ration should be split into 2 or 3 meals,& i think this is where some folks go wrong as they try to give too much over the day,hence the faddy eating brigade!
 
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So is this is not a healthy dog!!

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from collecting teya and seeing jess after 10 puppies and still in a picture of health i know who's advice i will be following,also i know if there was any problem with teya mally is always there for very trusting advice.

Mally's dogs are a real credit to him as i've seen them work along side him.
 
alfyn said:
Don't lets turn this into a slanging match,eh????Paul,i'm sure you're not suggesting that my dogs sit in front of the fire all day :blink: I know my lot don't "work",but they are well exercised & very fit!

My lot have 2 meals a day,plus a chicken wing,& they all scoff their food without hesitation!

What i'm saying is that their daily ration should be split into 2 or 3 meals,& i think this is where some folks go wrong as they try to give too much over the day,hence the faddy eating brigade!

Fine, if that works for you, other regimes work for other people. I do not think there is just one correct way. :)
 
masta said:
I have bit of a problem reading this article, my eyes just do not like the colour, so i hope i did not miss something.

I also have a problem with some of this person's claims. The well known fact is that most carnivores do first of all eat contents of their prey's stomach = predigested vegetable matter. Cooked veggies are the closest most of us can get.

While i do not like manufactured highly processed food, I would never feed my dogs purely on meat. I did it once for a while. My partner went suddenly overseas and i was left alone to run a business, working long hours and a litter of pups on the ground. (w00t) The easiest way to feed them was to stop at the butchers on the way home get 20kg of meat and give them half on my arrival home and the other in the morning. I then left dry food for the day, but it was generally left untouched. The pups looked great, fat and healthy, but that was the only litter i bred that ended up with some bone problems.
 
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masta said:
~whitecross whippets~ said:
masta said:
OEH said:
What is wrong with grapes for dogs :eek: ?  Really worried now, as Tessie gets one quite often as she looooooves them.  What have I been doing to her :(
My vet tried to push Hills too and it made Tess's coat really dry and dandruffy and she was much bouncier when we took her off it.

same as the onion reply lots of foods are upsetting/poison but you would hve to feed large amounts on a very regular basis for them to cause real problems

sorry mate but that is not correct...it only takes a small amount once to actually kill a dog! :(


Renal failure associated with ingestion of grapes or raisins in dogs.” The Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association (JAVMA). May 15, 2001. Volume 218. Number 10. Pages 1555-1556.

the 10 cases of raisin/grape "poisoning" in the USA had eaten between 9oz - 2lb and the following statement was made "We recommend that ingestation of large amounts of grapes or raisins should be managed aggressively"

no mention of small amounts killing dogs

well we had 2 dogs die from separate incidences both only eating a snack bag of raisins and in the last issue of dogs today there are several people warning of their dogs eating raisins/grapes and they are now dead!....so its your decision what you do with the advice...but i dont see the arguement really....your dog isnt going to care if you decide to stop feeding it grapes/raisins from now on is it???

surely it is better to be safe than sorry?
 
goodasgold said:
So is this is not a healthy dog!!

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from collecting teya and seeing jess after 10 puppies and still in a picture of health i know who's advice i will be following,also i know if there was any problem with teya mally is always there for very trusting advice.

Mally's dogs are a real credit to him as i've seen them work along side him.

goodasgold looks lovely :wub: and i too have a pup from mally who is now on one meal a day due to her picky eating!...i was feeding 2 meals a day but she was soooo picky :wacko: i tried everthing !!and the only that worked was to make her hungry enough and she seems fine :thumbsup:
 
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~whitecross whippets~ said:
masta said:
~whitecross whippets~ said:
masta said:
OEH said:
What is wrong with grapes for dogs :eek: ?  Really worried now, as Tessie gets one quite often as she looooooves them.  What have I been doing to her :(
My vet tried to push Hills too and it made Tess's coat really dry and dandruffy and she was much bouncier when we took her off it.

same as the onion reply lots of foods are upsetting/poison but you would hve to feed large amounts on a very regular basis for them to cause real problems

sorry mate but that is not correct...it only takes a small amount once to actually kill a dog! :(


Renal failure associated with ingestion of grapes or raisins in dogs.” The Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association (JAVMA). May 15, 2001. Volume 218. Number 10. Pages 1555-1556.

the 10 cases of raisin/grape "poisoning" in the USA had eaten between 9oz - 2lb and the following statement was made "We recommend that ingestation of large amounts of grapes or raisins should be managed aggressively"

no mention of small amounts killing dogs

well we had 2 dogs die from separate incidences both only eating a snack bag of raisins and in the last issue of dogs today there are several people warning of their dogs eating raisins/grapes and they are now dead!....so its your decision what you do with the advice...but i dont see the arguement really....your dog isnt going to care if you decide to stop feeding it grapes/raisins from now on is it???

surely it is better to be safe than sorry?

your right it is better to be safe than sorry and i feed neither grapes or raisins just that when someone tells me that i should'nt and makes a statement "sorry mate but that is not correct...it only takes a small amount once to actually kill a dog!" i want to understand what a small amount is and if it has been clinically proven, and from my research it seems the only papers written are about the 10 american dogs and their conclusion was to manage the quants not to stop,

You mention 2 dogs dying from eating a snack bag how was that diagnosed
 
your right it is better to be safe than sorry and i feed neither grapes or raisins just that when someone tells me that i should'nt and makes a statement "sorry mate but that is not correct...it only takes a small amount once to actually kill a dog!" i want to understand what a small amount is and if it has been clinically proven, and from my research it seems the only papers written are about the 10 american dogs and their conclusion was to manage the quants not to stop,

You mention 2 dogs dying from eating a snack bag how was that diagnosed





hi

yes i understand...i just wanted everyone to know that it is really dangerous for any to be given... im not absolutely sure about the ins and outs of diagnosis but like i said there are even 2 articles in dogs today magazine (i think 1 in the last and the 1 before)warning of the dangers and telling their very sad stories...my point being its not a scientific veterinary report or anything...

the dogs i remember died very quickly after ingestion as the damage to them is irreversable even with the advice from the poisons unit...but it was several years ago now and i am getting a bit old and dont remember the details :blink:
 
just to let you know thanks to everyones great advice mini is on the up . she is eating well again and the squirts have stoped :D thanks everyone. :cheers:
 
Great news :thumbsup:

We have never had fussy eaters, pups stay on several meals a day until they start getting picky or not finishing their bowls, then this drops down to two meals or even one. But Louis who is nearly 6 months - eats so well and is such an energetic pup he is still having 4 meals a day and why not?? If he is eating these well, imho it is better to have several small meals a day rather than one big one.

But I agree fussy eaters may do better on just the one a day.

I do think though Goodasgold, no-one was saying your pup wasn't healthy, so don't over-react!! ;)
 
I guess im really naughty then cause Tilly has a bowl of Greyhound dry food in her bowl and she grazes all day...... :- " well unless she is in her cage

She seems fit and healthy (she is only 10 months old) perhaps i should start giving her two meals a day?? :b
 

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