Animal Cruelty In Spain *very Sensitive*

[BeeJay]

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Please do not look at the video if you are upset by animal abuse.

Animal cruelty in Spain.

>in Spain a man beat his dog to death and burnt the corpse with petrol the man was filmed and reported to the police by a vet.

Anyway the man (Juan Lado) was fined 6000 Euros but a vigilante mob was waiting outside the court for blood.

They were waiting for the VET!

More people should know what goes on in parts of Spain as in regards animal cruelty and the authorities attitude towards it. this story has not had anywhere near enough coverage about it.

 

[BeeJay]

I'm sorry about the lack of a warning on the topic title. I went to see if I could edit the topic title but I can't. I also can't delete the post and start again so. Sorry folks we are stuck with it.

 

[jools]

Sadly the Spanish must be one of the worst nations for animal cruelty - there is always lots of noise made about it, but nothing ever seems to be done. They are either killing their greyhounds off in the most cruel ways, throwing donkeys off towers or fighting bulls for fun - I wouldn't want to go there for my hols.

 

[Juley]

Sorry, I did try to watch but I had to stop and be sick. I HATE that this goes on. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

 

[Susan]

:rant: :rant: WHY :rant: :rant:

BASTARD,,HOPE HE ROTS IN HELL :rant:

 

[stephen mason]

Just to put things in perspective. Apparently the beating of the German Shepherd was filmed by the vet. Federico Real in June 2004. Last week a number of Spanish television stations showed the video which resulted in an outcry with letters to the press and demands for more stringent laws. Warnings were issued that the video could hurt the sensibilities of members of the public. One newspaper on the internet ran an article asking readers to vote on the necessity to strengthen current legislation on animal cruelty. 97% voted in favour 3% considered there were important matters to attend to. Federico Real says he has received support from all over Galicia and the rest of Spain. So attitudes to cruelty to animals are changing and, hopefully, new legislation will be enacted. In my opinion Spain has fistfulls of laws on numerous matters but very few are put into practice, so a change in attitude is what is required. This change in attitude could be the result of a change 40 years ago from a predominately agricultural society to an industrial one with mass immigration to the big cities and a depopulatiom of the countryside. The number of pet dogs and cats has increased and showing dogs as a hobby has expanded at a rapid rate over the last 15 years. Veterinary practices have opened up ( we have 3 in our village). However summer still sees many dogs and cats thrown out on the street as apparently occurs in the Britain. Have not heard much about hanging greyhounds lately. This normally took/takes place at the close of the coursing season and again resulted in a public outcry. Last week saw numerous protests against the medieval practice of "el toro de la vega". There is not much greyhound racing or horse racing come to that so the slaughtering of retired racing greyhounds which exists in Britain is not a problem. Less kettles calling pots black is a good axiom. Stephen

 

[Janimal]

:rant: :rant: God that is despicable.

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but lets not forget - animal cruelty goes on in all countries, England included.

There have been some dreadful cases right here in the North East I am ashamed they can class themselves as humans in some cases. :rant:

apologies for this link - but not the dog owners. :rant:

Puppy BOILED

 

[abbey]

Any cruelty of any kind in any country should not be tolerated..we in Britain are as guilty of animal cruelty as many of the other countries, until we have better laws and an organisation such as the RSPCA/SSPCA having powers of arrest, guilty parties will still be sugject to a small fine and a 'ban' that isnt worth the paper that its written on. :angry:

 

[Janimal]

Any cruelty of any kind in any country should not be tolerated..we in Britain are as guilty of animal cruelty as many of the other countries, until we have better laws and an organisation such as the RSPCA/SSPCA having powers of arrest, guilty parties will still be sugject to a small fine and a 'ban' that isnt worth the paper that its written on. :angry:

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Quite agree ... :thumbsup:

 

[mally]

Just to put things in perspective. Apparently the beating of the German Shepherd was filmed by the vet. Federico Real in June 2004. Last week a number of  Spanish television stations showed the video which resulted in an outcry with letters to the press and demands for more stringent laws. Warnings were issued that the video could hurt the sensibilities of members of the public. One newspaper on the internet ran an article  asking readers to vote on the necessity to strengthen current legislation on animal cruelty. 97% voted in favour 3%  considered there were important matters to attend to. Federico Real says he has received support  from all over Galicia and the rest of Spain. So attitudes to cruelty to animals are changing and, hopefully, new legislation will be enacted. In my opinion Spain has fistfulls of laws on numerous matters but very few are put into practice, so a change in attitude is what is required. This change in attitude could be the result of a change 40 years ago from a predominately agricultural society to an industrial one with mass immigration to the big cities and a depopulatiom of the countryside. The number of pet dogs and cats has increased and  showing dogs as a hobby has expanded at a rapid rate over the last 15 years. Veterinary practices have opened up ( we have 3 in our village). However summer still sees many dogs and cats thrown out on the street as apparently occurs in the Britain. Have not heard much about hanging greyhounds lately. This normally took/takes  place at the close of the coursing season and again resulted in a public outcry. Last week saw numerous protests against the medieval practice of "el toro de la vega". There is not much greyhound racing or horse racing come to that so the slaughtering of retired racing greyhounds which exists in Britain is not a problem. Less kettles calling pots black is a good axiom. Stephen

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Stephen i think i would have thought a little before calling us british. WE don't bullfight and we certainly don't trap robins with leg traps for food. The trapping of wild songbirds is still legal in spain it's been illegal in britain for over 30 years.

I think it's about time you woke up mate our pubs don't have lions in a cage round the back to attract customers. Spains reputation for animal husbandry is in the gutter mate.

enough said i think

 

[rach125]

i could only watch the first 2seconds of that it was disgusting. wat a shame the vet didn't have a bloody loaded shot gun! i no the video evidence was vital for prosecution but im sorry i couldn't just stand there and watch that going on and im sure most of you feel the same. That animal was so trusting and just allowed that despicable man to do that to him rather than bite his face off which is so sad and upsetting. :rant: :rant: :rant:

 

[stephen mason]

Well thank you for your comments. Mally seems incapable of understanding the English language or I have difficulty expressing myself. I tried to explain what has happened and is still happening in Spain over the last 45 years as regards the Spanish attitude towards animal cruelty. I am not exonerating cruelty to animals in Spain.I have never seen lions in cages behind pubs. Stuffed bulls´heads in bars yes. many the British tourists admire them. As regards bullfights there are anti bullfight movements but let us not forget that many of the British tourists and residents in the tourist areas ( 40% of property in these areas is being acquired by the British with the help of the cheap flights run by Ryanair, Easyjet etc. ), seem to be supportive of bullfights. Probably a question of when in Rome. It is interesting to note that the Countryside Alliance in Britain is supportive of blood sports, the opposition to such sports apparently being town dwellers. Opposition to blood sports seems to expand in more industrialized societies. Many species of birds are protected by law and I have to admit that small birds are still probably caught with "glue". I remember this was common when we lived in the basque country in the 1960´s. Birds after all are birds and are we now to question grouse shooting in Northern Derbyshire, Yorkshire and Scotland?? How many partridge, grouse etc. are wounded and left to suffer as are hares and rabbits in Britain now that coursing is illegal. Are we to condem fishing? Some of those trout have a tough time. Sorry Mally to read about the loss of you bitch Tilly. Stephen

 

[beaker]

i couldn't watch more than a couple of seconds of that video, i felt so sick,

just been to give my lot a hug :'(

 

[Loopy]

That poor dog!

I would have waded in and removed it rather than carry on filming

but spose I don't know the circumstances. I'd like to give the bloke

a good beating back :rant: :rant:

Below link is the result of cruelty to animals in Ireland and if anyone could

donate dog accessories like bedding, coats, collars, toys or money they would be most grateful.

Just look at poor Lily & elsewhere on site Aesop the maybe Poodle + others

http://www.limerickanimalwelfare.com/law/greyhounds.htm

They do re-home to UK so if anyone is looking for a new friend please take a mo to look at Dogs for re-homing section.

 

[stephen mason]

I forgot to mention the number of wine sodden British animal lovers who run before the bulls on July 7 at the "fiestas de San Fermin" in Pamplona. Hemmingway and all that. Many of these chaps end up in hospital and that`s where my tax money goes. No criticism of the French.?? If you travel from the Franco/Spanish frontier through the "landes" to Bordeaux in summer you will see "corridas" being advertized in many villages." Les landes" is also well known for the production of "foie gras" which requires the forced feeding of geese. Nimes also swanks a very famous bullring. Let´s not even consider Mexico with bullfights, cock fights, dogfights etc. We all can`t be perfect. Time to put this thread to bed. Stephen

 

[doris]

I think it is fair to say that BeeJay started this thread by saying about the cruelty that goes on in PARTS of Spain

And I also think that most of us here agree that PARTS of this country has cruelty going on

I don't see the need to throw stones or score points against each other, after all I assume that we all agree that the incident in question is horrorific?

 

[mazza]

I cannot bring myself to actually view this video, I know if I do those images will never go away. After seeing videos and images of other horrendous cruelties on other sites but mainly on the Peta site, terrified dogs and racoons being skinned alive for their fur and dogs with their front legs tied behind their backs, their shoulders dislocated in the process and then having a rusty can rammed into their faces while they wait for their barbaric deaths. For these dogs, death cannot come a moment too soon, their terrible suffering finally ended.

Those images are very disturbing, but I'm so glad they are available for the world to see, at least people are becoming aware of what really goes on, but as I said, I really cannot view them, I know it will be too upsetting.

The Spanish people are not renowned for their love of animals.

A day out is taking the kids to a bullfight, hmmm, great family entertainment. They watch a frightened bull being terrorized and agonisingly tortured before it is finally killed and they call it fun. :rant:

 

[05whippet]

I actually cant even begin to find words to say how I feel right now after watching that clip,that poor,poor dog :'( :'( :'( :'(

And I have to say that I think the vet has better self control than I do as I would have taken that lump of wood off him and beaten him with it and not stopped until I saw his blood and lots of it!! :rant: :rant:

And as for those poor dogs on that Greyhound rescue site,well they must be in so much pain with sarcoptic mange,it really is awful to think that there are poor dogs out there who don't have anyone to say a nice word to them and give them a pat or give them a blanket to lie on.And yet no matter what you do to them all they really want to do is please you and make you happy and the really sad gutwrenching thing is.........they still trust people. :'(

I am off to give my lot a big cuddle each.

 

[REMI]

Please do not look at the video if you are upset by animal abuse.
Animal cruelty in Spain.

>in Spain a man beat his dog to death and burnt the corpse with petrol the man was filmed and reported to the police by a vet.

Anyway the man (Juan Lado) was fined 6000 Euros but a vigilante mob was waiting outside the court for blood.

They were waiting for the VET!

More people should know what goes on in parts of Spain as in regards animal cruelty and the authorities attitude towards it. this story has not had anywhere near enough coverage about it.

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I can't understand how the vet could film it and not intervene. I feel sick. That poor bloody dog. Did the owner say why he murdered that poor dog?

 

[kris]

i cant watch this video.im getting much too sensitive in my old age and i know the pictures will stay with me for a long time and haunt me i still see those pics of rusty the poor greyhound who had his ears cut off and shot with a nail gun. cruelty to animals doesnt belong to only one country.its world wide.however having said that i think any country that organises a spectacle of families paying to watch an animal being tortured and stabbed with barbed prongs,while its tormentors ride around it on a horse that is blindfolded so it wont try to run away in terror,and wears a padded coat so that the bulls horns wont gore it(despite which many horses are disembowelled by the bull)and is eventually when tormented and tortured nearly to death is thankfully put out of its misery.well any country that does that and worships these animals tormentors instead of jailing them,i think that country needs to take a good ,hard,long look at itself. :angry: