This is more of a rant than anything but I'm hoping someone can help me get on some good social platforms (pref. FB) for dogs with behavioural/training problems, where owners discuss different methods. I was a member of a facebook dog behaviour and training group, but have removed myself after reading a post from a lady who has a dog who is DA/HA around unfamiliar (or strange) triggers (people/dogs). It wasn't her post that got to me but the posts of every other member of the group. She was asking about using a balanced method of training, as she'd had no progress with 100% PR and her dog had redirected onto her strongly for the first time which she believed showed he was getting worse with her training instead of better. The thing is she only asked about switching from his harness to a collar that gave her more control (a check collar) following the redirection and already people were losing their minds and calling her cruel and saying she did not care about the dog she had lived with and worked with for however many years. She had rescued the dog and he had been placed with her despite his issues, or maybe the rescue didn't know. I read all of the comments and every single person there was rightfully advocating positive reinforcement. At the same time they were telling the OP who seemed to have been a long standing member of the group and also a member who normally uses PR methods, but is considering something else, that she never cared for the dog, was cruel, didn't deserve him and should...here's the kicker...Put the dog to sleep. It's better to kill the dog than training it if you have to learn a new way of teaching? When did PR stop caring about the dog? Is there a name, like PR trainer, for the people who like to work with individual dogs using whatever method works best for the dog instead of the person holding the lead? The post struck a nerve as it reminded me of me and my dog back when she was younger and I was less experienced. 3 professional trainers met with me and my dog and told me to put her to sleep as she was dangerously out of control and instead I began working with her and listening to her and it was literally an overnight change. When I stopped caring about the opinions of strangers and started caring about the feelings of my dog she miraculously felt so much better. I'm scared that people have forgotten that owning a dog is about the dog. Everybody seems so quick to advise PTS and clickers but when the dog has been raised on PR methods with a born and bred PR handler and the problem behaviours are persisting and in fact getting worse, it normally means the handler methods do not agree with the dog. I see so many owners doing the wrong thing by their dogs just so they aren't condemned by a bunch of strangers who insist they know the best way. I've seen so many people actually take the advice to put their dog to sleep because PR methods weren't working. I was very close to listening to the masses and putting my dog to sleep as well. My DOG knows the best training method for her and my next dog will know the best one for him and it might not be the same so I might have to get used to training differently despite being most comfortable with PR training. It's not about me, it's about the dog. Does anybody know any social platforms for people who work with their individual dogs regardless of what that dog works best with? I've left my comfort zone for dogs many times and I'd like to speak with people who are stepping out of their comfort zones for their dogs as well. My current dog flourishes on balance and stability and I'm hoping to find a facebook group who will not condemn me for working with her to give her the best life. She gets told "no" sometimes and wears a collar, not a harness (though I have a harness for when we do nosework). An open minded group who discuss training methods instead of boycotting them would be nice. If anybody is part of any group like that and it's appropriate to share the details I would appreciate it as I enjoy reading the positives and negatives of every method, idea, tool, story to make an informed decision. If this isn't an appropriate topic please remove I had another gander through the rules and couldn't see anything about this.