Bo Bengtson In Germany

[Morgan]

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Congratulations Tamara and Mojo... That judge sure had a good taste  Did you not show any of your black pups ?

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Thank you Rudi!

No I didn't enter any of the blacks there because they are only 8 months old but we had "Lola" (Black is Beautiful) with us and she got noticed not even being shown :b :thumbsup:

 

[Seraphina]

Big congratulations to Mojo :cheers:   :cheers:   :cheers: I also noticed that that 3rd Intermediate dog was VELASQUEZ Z Vilcabamba, young dog bred by my friend Draha (Occarina on K9) who past on last year.  She would have been very happy. :cheers:

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Hi Lida,

Here's a picture of Velasquez I found on Animagi Blog:

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Thanks Tamara, I wonder who handled him. Valasquez lives with an old gentleman who never before showed dogs, but handled him successfully to some wins this year.

 

[aslan]

Congratulations Tamara and Mojo! You must be very satisfied with this win!

Satiny can you please explain the doubling handling you spoke of? Two different people showing the dog or one handling in the ring and one on the outside whistling and calling to get the dog's attention (or signalling to the handler what to do)?

Interesting.

Doubling handling here (like in my second and third examples) is not allowed at all.

Two people handling the same dog in the ring sometimes is - especially at German Shepherd Nationals where they must run many laps of the ring and it is too much for one person. Other times, when the dog's regular handler has an injury and can't run, they will allow the handler to stack the dog and another person to come in and run the dog. Or if one person must go to another ring to handle another dog you are allowed to change handlers.

A week or so ago I gave my Layla to another handler to take in whilst I showed Reba the Husky in another ring. I finished with Reba and came back to the whippet ring and Layla was having a little panic attack with her other handler (in the ring) so I asked the steward if I may go in and replace the handler and he said yes - this happened in the middle of a class being judged.

 

[doris]

I don't know what double handling means either :wacko:

 

[Cartman]

Congratulations Tamara and Mojo!  You must be very satisfied with this win!
Satiny can you please explain the doubling handling you spoke of?  Two different people showing the dog or one handling in the ring and one on the outside whistling and calling to get the dog's attention (or signalling to the handler what to do)?

Interesting. 

Doubling handling here (like in my second and third examples) is not allowed at all. 

Two people handling the same dog in the ring sometimes is - especially at German Shepherd Nationals where they must run many laps of the ring and it is too much for one person.  Other times, when the dog's regular handler has an injury and can't run, they will allow the handler to stack the dog and another person to come in and run the dog.  Or if one person must go to another ring to handle another dog you are allowed to change handlers.

A week or so ago I gave my Layla to another handler to take in whilst I showed Reba the Husky in another ring.  I finished with Reba and came back to the whippet ring and Layla was having a little panic attack with her other handler (in the ring) so I asked the steward if I may go in and replace the handler and he said yes - this happened in the middle of a class being judged.

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I have seen a person take the dog into the ring, stand it on the table for the judge, then a handler comes into the ring to move the dog.

I also have heard of this happening. Dont know for sure, but belive it happened this year at Perth Royal.

Wont say who. But it was in Beagles. :- "

 

[Seraphina]

I have seen in shows in Europe people outside of a ring squeeking rubber ducks, blowing whistles or jumping up and down waving their arms to make the dog in the ring look allert (w00t) . That is what i consider "double handling" and is illegal in OZ.

Change of handler due to the person stacking the dog being unable to run is permisable and i have also seen it done. Provided it is done without holding up the procedings, i do not have any problem with that. The way the avarege age of exhibitors is steadily rising I can see the time when there will be number of electric wheelchairs zooming around the ring

 

[playawhile]

I have seen in shows in Europe people outside of a ring squeeking rubber ducks, blowing whistles or jumping up and down waving their arms to make the dog in the ring look allert  (w00t) .  That is what i consider "double handling" and is illegal in OZ.Change of handler due to the person stacking the dog being unable to run is permisable and i have also seen it done.  Provided it is done without holding up the procedings, i do not have any problem with that.  The way the avarege age of exhibitors is steadily rising I can see the time when there will be number of electric wheelchairs zooming around the ring

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That is also my interpretation about what double handling means, that you try to get the dogs attention from outside the ring by using a toy or making a sound etc. to get the dog more “on the toes”. Especially the german shepherd people have done this to “an art”…… In Sweden this is not allowed.

Henrik Härling

 

[Morgan]

Thanks Tamara, I wonder who handled him.  Valasquez lives with an old gentleman who never before showed dogs, but handled him successfully to some wins this year.

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This dog is shown by a professionnal handler (I think so).

 

[Morgan]

I have seen in shows in Europe people outside of a ring squeeking rubber ducks, blowing whistles or jumping up and down waving their arms to make the dog in the ring look allert  (w00t) .  That is what i consider "double handling" and is illegal in OZ.

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I am very sure this is what Satiny mentionned by double handling. It is also not allowed here but still in breeds such as GSD or Boxer etc they do it and nobody says anything.

 

[satiny]

Doubling handling in this case : sqeeking toy, calling the bitch name and signs to put the bitch in the correct stand.

But please note, beside this, she is a gorgeous bitch.

And I really thing that the judge had a very hard decision to make... the Bob bitch had just this little "thing" more (but can be due to the double handling...)

It is NOT a question of favorites to me, just a honest showing. And this is my point of view.

 

[JAX]

It is also against KC rules here too :cheers: but still seen in GSDs

They get away with lots of things that other breeds dont do if fact they really seem to have GSD shows on there own were ever they are :teehee: Far too much running if you ask me :- "

 

[Nine Lives]

First of all congratulations to all winners, esp. Tamara and Mojo. I did not like the hind legs of the Best Bitch and in my eyes Daydream was the BOB, but everybody uses his own taste when judging. But the absolute worst at the show was a very bad organisation on Sunday. When only a small working class bitches and the open class bitches were left, the show comitee decided to go to luch at 12.00. and have a break of 45 minutes, not announced before. Many people found it a stupid idea, because the judges could have had their lunch also at 13.00, but ok. Everybody showed up at 12.45, but not the judges and their staff. They arrived 30 minutes later. But instead of starting with the last bitches, we had to wait another 30 minutes, because Mrs. Kyrklund, who only had to judge whippet dogs puppies and juniors and whippet bitches puppies and juniors, must have had stopped judging at about 11.00. So we had to wait until the handlers of whippet bitches juniors were ready because they also showed whippet bitches in working class....

On a Saturday it might have been ok, because everybody could stay or depart on Sunday, but an organisation like that on a Sunday was impolite and ignorant to all those who had to drive home on Sunday evening....

Ulrike

 

[bardmand]

It is also against KC rules here too  :cheers:   but still seen in GSDs   
They get away with lots of things that other breeds dont do  if fact they really seem to have GSD shows on there own were ever they are  :teehee: Far  too much running if you ask me    :- "

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It is the same here. I went to an all-breed show as a spectator on Sunday, and for some reason I found myself talking to an aquaintance right next to the GSD ring. All of a sudden, someone screams from two inches behind my head to gain her dog's attention.

I seriously feel I would have had a heart attack there and then, had I been a few decades older. :rant: I gave the woman a right telling off, but it did not seem to affect her the least bit. :rant: :rant:

 

[satiny]

First of all congratulations to all winners, esp. Tamara and Mojo. I did not like the hind legs of the Best Bitch and in my eyes Daydream was the BOB, but everybody uses his own taste when judging. But the absolute worst at the show was a very bad organisation on Sunday. When only a small working class bitches and the open class bitches were left, the show comitee decided to go to luch at 12.00. and have a break of 45 minutes, not announced before. Many people found it a stupid idea, because the judges could have had their lunch also at 13.00, but ok. Everybody showed up at 12.45, but not the judges and their staff. They arrived 30 minutes later. But instead of starting with the last bitches, we had to wait another 30 minutes, because Mrs. Kyrklund, who only had to judge whippet dogs puppies and juniors and whippet bitches puppies and juniors, must have had stopped judging at about 11.00. So we had to wait until the handlers of whippet bitches juniors were ready because they also showed whippet bitches in working class....On a Saturday it might have been ok, because everybody could stay or depart on Sunday, but an organisation like that on a Sunday was impolite and ignorant to all those who had to drive home on Sunday evening....

Ulrike

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If everyone who wasn't placed would have been gone, I don't think the final would not have been so beautiful as now, with all the people around the ring It was just so nice to see all those people looking to see which whippets would be put up. In other countries, you need to stay till late in the afternoon, so ....

Mr Bengston had a very big entrence, and making a break was realy necessary. Mr Thomas Munch did a great job with this organisation and so did his team. Maybe it took some more time than you expected it would, but so what,... that is life and thats show, isn't it ...

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[Nine Lives]

Soirry, I did not complain about a break, but about this break of more than 1,5 hours which is unusual in any case. And I was not the only one who was not happy about that break.....The show was nice because of the number of high quality whippets, but the organisation was not at its best. If you announce 45 minutes break, it is unprofessionell to have a delay of more than 30 minutes. In many other countries judges and handlers get a timetable, so everybody knows exactly when he has to be in the ring. And it was for sure not the first time that I have been at a big show, but in any case the first time that the team went off for a lunch break of 1,5 hours...

Ulrike

 

[whipcat]

Hello All,

yes I think it was a very nice show with a lovely entry, and I have to say that the Whippet Club germany is very proud that he was abel to organise all this - to all: it is not easy to prepare all these things and to organise 2 judges, two rings, two stewards and all the stuff - so sorry for any problems.

BUT:

if you want to see more pictures of the show look at

Jahrhundersieger

Hi Jax

here a picture of lovely Connor - he behaves great thinking that his last show was 1 1/2 years ago....

good boy

also I am so glad that our Lilly got a 2. in a huge class - not looking so american

Also we expect puppies from Lily and Eros (Courthill Coat of Arms ) in december :cheers:

love from us

Susanne

www.whipcat.de

 

[whipcat]

pictures didn't work???? :blink:

then look here

whipcat page

and scroll a little bit down please!!!!!!

Love

Susanne :wub:

 

[JAX]

Connor :wub: :wub: but then he does look like Harvee :lol: or rather Harvee looks like Uncle Connor

 

[Adagio]

Double handling can also be the opposite! When you for an example try to frighten a dog from outside the ring. In Sweden we had before a person who was a specialist on this and she just stod very close to the table where the dog stod and waved with her ambrella or such, she was also very clever in the rings to go VERY close to a dog in front of her so the dogs tail riced or such.

But as I noticed at The Mariefred show a person stands outside the ring with clickers or trye to get the dogs attention.

 

[JAX]

Double handling can also be the opposite! When you for an example try to frighten a dog from outside the ring. In Sweden we had before a person who was a specialist on this and she just stod very close to the table where the dog stod and waved with her ambrella or such, she was also very clever in the rings to go VERY close to a dog in front of her so the dogs tail riced or such.But as I noticed at The Mariefred show a person stands outside the ring with clickers or trye to get the dogs attention.

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That is SO bad Stefan , Did no one ever say any thing to this `person? :rant: I remember an exhibitor many years ago who used to stand her dog more forward in the line up so the others could not be seen I was a novice then , :- " but had she still been in the ring now I doubt she would get any with it so easily o :- "