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[Paws123]

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Sorry to have to say this but THIS IS THE FAULT OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE ABUSED the facilities over the years and it THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE LOST you the caravan facilities not the BWRA.   i.e. Vandalising the showers/toilets/emptying porta loos in hedges/counterfeit money being passed over in the club/fighting when people are drunk etc.    :rant:   :rant:
I know you will all come shouting at me BUT THIS IS FACT NOT FICTION.  Now you have very few facilities left that WILL take the racing and the caravans.     Blame THOSE members.

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All these matters should of been dealt with when they happened instead of brushed under the carpet and ignored, and then maybe the bwra wouldn't be having such a hard time finding a camping venue

And your giving great publicity for none ped racing Joan ...not that you race anymore

 

[Scillonian]

Denise IMO people have "missed the true reason" as to why the BWRA are having such a hard time finding a suitable venue - they are NOT wholly to blame here.

No, we do not race anymore and the reason is "we did not like the way the racing was heading" and all this trouble/back stabbing was just not our scene. My apologies if you think I am causing bad publicity for the Sport but nothing hurts more than the truth. Being an honest person I thought it was about time somebody pointed out why there are very few venues left for the racing/caravans.

Hope it all sorts itself out - will be thinking of you whilst we are off on our holidays somewhere. :thumbsup:

 

[Paws123]

Denise IMO people have "missed the true reason" as to why the BWRA are having such a hard time finding a suitable venue.

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And the true reason been...

incident dealt with in the appropriate manner straight away

 

[Scillonian]

Gaz/Dee DONT YOU DARE BLAME ME for losing Moreton in the Marsh - IMO that was an "inside job" by some whippetter/member having a grudge and put the spoke in!!!!!

Why is it you are always the person to come back at me in a critical manner when all I have done is spoken the truth. I have given my view(s) and will now say nothing further on the subject. Now you see why we have quit the sport after 35 years.

 

[Paws123]

Gaz/Dee  DONT YOU DARE BLAME ME for losing Moreton in the Marsh - IMO that was an "inside job" by some whippetter/member having a grudge and put the spoke in!!!!!
Why is it you are always the person to come back at me in a critical manner when all I have done is spoken the truth.  I have given my view(s) and will now say nothing further on the subject.    Now you see why we have quit the sport after 35 years.

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Not blaming you Joan just letting you know my personal opinions about the way certain incidents have been handled in the past....i agree with you about PEOPLE WHO HAVE ABUSED the facilities over the years.

As for losing Moreton in the Marsh i don't know the true facts why...but if the reason's are as you stated the person / persons involved should be dealt with severely by all organizations , just my opinion

 

[simpson]

like ppl have said before if A T MINERS was put forward then that should be used

 

[mutley]

not blaming you joan :blink: you brought it up

 

[mutley]

the champs will be wherever anyone is gracious enough to hold them but it should be with camping at least to make it prestgiouse enough to celebrate 40 years just my opinion ) it would solve the traveling headache for everyone

 

[simpson]

the champs will be wherever anyone is gracious enough to hold them  but it should be with camping  at least to make it prestgiouse enough to celebrate 40 years just my opinion )

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:thumbsup: totally agree

most ppls argument isnt the fact where the champs are its that there is no" onsite"

camping :wacko:

 

[mutley]

thats it richie :thumbsup:

 

[NEILPEM]

(w00t) you tell em ritchie,n you sop egging him on gaz

 

[decca]

how come the new fed can find racing weekend venues,and not the bwra.howay whats wrong with swallowsnest )

 

[rodders]

I endorse everything Sheila says, Worcester is definitely a Midlands track and it takes the Thurrock crowd 5 hours and myself 3 hours to get to the track, so it seems the same distances as from Newcastle area.Unfortunately no-one would allow us camping around that area so a day event was the only fair option.   Only people to suffer are the Scottish folk.

I don't know why the discussions are still coming as everything has been arranged and a lot of people have already spent money on booking in a sites which will soon be booked up as it is a bank holiday.

Perhaps when Devon offered us camping on the week before would have been a better conclusion but of course it was too far south.

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I have done some calculations (see below) using a route finder these distances are calculated using the fastest route at the maximum speed limits for a vehicle yes I know most are towing and will be slower be the same rules are used for everyone north and south. Below I have used two tracks as a guide (not racers home towns after all we travel to our local tracks most weeks if there is not a open close by) to potential Straight Championship venues.

Thurrock-Worcester 181.8 miles 2 hours 46 minutes

Thurrock- Swallowsnest 194.1miles 2 hours 56 minutes

Thurrock-Devon 220.2 miles 3 hours 30 minutes

Thurrock-Manchester 232.8 miles 3 hours 32 minutes

Thurrock-Newton Aycliffe 267.8 miles 4 hours 23 minutes

Thurrock-Old Hall 147.9 miles 2 hours 18 minutes

Kirkcaldy-Worcester 345.2 miles 5 hours 10 minutes

Kirkcaldy- Swallowsnest 265.7 miles 4 hours 22 minutes

Kirkcaldy-Devon 461.0 miles 6 hours 48 minutes

Kirkcaldy-Manchester 245.5 miles 3 hours 46 minutes

Kirkcaldy-Newton Aycliffe 168.3 miles 2 hours 51 minutes

Kirkcaldy-Old Hall 316.4 miles 4 hours 55 minutes

Using the same guide.

Worcester-Swallowsnest 113.6 1 hour 44 minutes

Worcester-Manchester 108.4 miles 1 hours 40 minutes

Fordingbridge-Swallowsnest 200.5 miles 3 hours 17 minutes

Fordingbridge-Manchester 210.1 miles 3 hours 19 minutes

Fordingbridge-Worcester 107.3 miles 1 hours 47 minutes

In my opinion Swallowsnest or Manchester is now as close as possible the central location yes these are rough guides but I have used the same method to calculate when travelling down to events myself and they are not far away towing or not (hold ups and stops extra). Even if the Straight Championships are a one day event camping or not (as maybe for some racers) to maximise attendance they should be as central as possible. Lets make that title mean something but then again the only people to suffer are the Scottish folk.

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Think the BWRA need to know that members understand the situation over the champs is none of their faults,but on looking at Johns calculations then A&T is deffinately the most central for all clubs up and down the country.I'm afraid The Midlands in this case is not in the middle.The only problem I can see in changing the venue is the people who have already booked their caravans into sites in the Worcester area,and how much they would stand to lose if the venue was changed.

 

[milly]

In hindsight the BWRA should have bought a plot of land in the past, central of course. In fact I think this is the only way forward to the solution.

Theres money in the bank, and we should all put our hands in our pockets, and increase membership,do fundraising. I for one would be willing to give a generous donation, why you may ask, because I love the sport of running our dogs.

Remember, feet for dancing, heads for thinking :thumbsup:

 

[aw006m7593]

I see the times you have quoted from Thurrock to various locations John and I would just like you to come to Thurrock and see if you could do the times. You have stated your navigation system has calculated I am afraid these times must be when their is no other traffic on the roads in a fast car and without towing a caravan, I stated it takes us five hours to Worcester towing a caravan and that is how long it takes us, if we bought a helicopter perhaps your times would be possible or we might be able to even better them.

 

[rocky]

I feel I must add TO Sheila's posting.

From my home to Worcester takes me 3 hours because most of the way is in a 40 mile limit and apart from the last 20 minutes of the journey it is through villages.

It is not the distance involved but the time the journey takes. To get the Oxford from here takes 2 hours.

Most travellers from the north have motorways to travel on which makes life a lot easier.

I don't know what the answer is but noone has mentioned the poor people that live in Cornwall.

If opens and camping hadn't sprung up we would all have been happy running in our clubs but now everyone wants an 'open' dog. But I agree the championship days should be available to all. Only way I can see it is a north and south divide and the winners run off at a central track on one day.

 

[Paws123]

how come the new fed can find racing weekend venues,and not  the bwra.howay whats wrong with swallowsnest  )

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Decca i think the bwra feel they need there own track after certain incidents last year at swallowsnest...but as stated i am sure swallowsnest could of been made available

I am sure we will all have a great time at worcster...its the same as any other place you visit ...its only what you make of it ...good company, good food & drink and if you are there good entertainment :thumbsup:

 

[sharon whincop]

When booking site's people with van's need to tell them this. A lot of site's will not let big vans on. they say it look's like gypsies.

 

[Susan]

The times John put on are

like you said a clear run, not stopping once and doing 70mph in a 70 area, 30 in a 30 zone, you can not go through any village , town doing 30. This is just a guide I wish we could have got to Devon in 6 hours 48 mins, but took us over 12 hours, you need to stop for the kids, dogs, food and petrol.

These times are also not towing (w00t)

 

[Paws123]

Ive heard the campsite i posted a link to on here last week is charging extra for dogs this is going to be an expensive weekend :sweating: :sweating: ...so rang around all i could find in the caravan club book and internet...most wont take vans or dogs ....and the others are fully booked

Getting worried now that members are going to be stuck for camping facility's around the Worcester area ... if you have a handful of dogs like most of us

Heard alot saying they are just going to sleep in the car park