Bwra Classic Jack Cadman

[hellbound]

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just been told that the bwra jack cadman is no longer a classic event, WHY (w00t) :b

anyone know, ?? and as this got anything to do with the petition going a round ??

 

[Paws123]

You will have to email the BWRA web site you know the committee don't answer in here

 

[rocky]

just been told that the bwra jack cadman is no longer a classic event, WHY  (w00t)   :b
anyone know, ?? and as this got anything to do with the petition going a round ??

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I don't think the BWRA are responsible for the Jack Cadman no longer being a classic event. This surely is due to the Whippet News, the top ten competition belongs to them.

Regarding a petition going around. Surely nobody would be so silly or idiotic as to find 50 members who wanted to overrule one of the rule changes that happened at the BWRA AGM and postal votes. The outcome of this (if it is the change of rules for the Jack Cadman as I believe) should stay. ALL members had a fair vote and the time to make a stand was then not now. Time for everyone to pull together and work for this years racing.

 

[weathergirls]

just been told that the bwra jack cadman is no longer a classic event, WHY  (w00t)   :b
anyone know, ?? and as this got anything to do with the petition going a round ??

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I don't think the BWRA are responsible for the Jack Cadman no longer being a classic event. This surely is due to the Whippet News, the top ten competition belongs to them.

The BWRA were informed at the AGM/PROPOSAL MEETING when the proposal to change the format of the JACK CADMAN was put forward that classic staus was awarded to certain opens by Whippet News due to format and status of a particular open and if the format was to change of any open that had CLASSIC STATUS it would be withdrawn, it was also suggested that members should be made aware of this when being asked to vote on it,

This is one of the reasons why there needs to be more communication between the executive committee and the reps to enable the reps to be able to make sure the members know what is going on and what they are voting in or out

 

[Paws123]

Talking about format changes in classic events, how come the Tyrone was a different format last Sunday to the previous year

 

[aw006m7593]

It was stated at the AGM if I remember correctly that if a proposal was workable then it should be put to members, Athur and I put the proposal in purely because of the time of year this event is run at along with pups, vets and yearlings it's

 

[aw006m7593]

I am afraid the complete posting got lost in transitit the posting should have read that the BWRA President Malcolm Clarke said at the AGM that if a porposal is workable then it should go out to members, the only reason we put the proposal in was because of the time of year the open is run and the fact that it would be a lot easier for the workers owing to the cold and loss of daylight if only one went through in four pound classes personnally I ain't bovvered how it's run together with a lot of other things that are happening in the sport we should all be enjoying I am just getting fed up to the back teeth of all the nastiness that is happening at present. If I did not have a good dog to run I would pack it all in tomorrow along with the club the only thing their is I would hate to let the members down. We have made some real good friends in racing and there are some fine people, it's just a pity about those that just keep niggling at those who are trying their best to make it work. As regards the format of the Jack Cadman when I ran Snow Fox in 1994 at the Jack Cadman I ran with 18lb bitches and it was off the back mark all in.

I will not be posting again on any undesirable subject I am sure you will be pleased to hear and so will Arthur.

 

[Paws123]

Maybe it could of been moved to a event on its own instead of running it along side the puppy champs ...just a thought...its a shame for it to loss its statues i am sure it has been run for as a classic for alot of years...but Sheila is right about the time of year and weather.

Still unsure about the question asked in this topic ..as said can someone please explain, or was the topic started just to cause ill feeling and nastiness again.

 

[sonnyk]

Maybe it could of been moved to a event on its own instead of running it along side the puppy champs ...just a thought...its a shame for it to loss its statues i am sure it has been run for as a classic for alot of years...but Sheila is right about the time of year and weather.
Still unsure about the question asked in this topic ..as said can someone please explain, or was the topic started just to cause ill feeling and nastiness again.

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you only have look who started the topic to know why

 

[mutley]

exactly :- "

 

[Susan]

This was on the voting slip we got, to change how it was run or leave it the way it was . Its been voted to change the format and now not a classic and the reason why is in the whippet news (forgot what months though )

Look at the last few months whippet new's and the reason is there, If you dont get the whippet news Im sure someone could loan you a copy for you to read yourself.

 

[rocky]

yes I agree with Susan, it was voted on and people understood what they were voting for. I believe a petition has been delivered to the bwra committee saying about 70 members (half who didn't even bother to send their voting slips in)

are disagreeing with the results of about 3 items on the voting slips and accusing Doreen of miscounting. This is certainly a very ungentlemanly way to carry on

 

[Susan]

I / We (Myself and John) do not know about a petition that was going around :- " :- " but this topic is in the whippet news, it was voted on and goes ahead :blink: wherether we like it or not (w00t)

Myself and John did return our voting froms as we always do (but we sometimes don't agree )

I hope this helps Hellbound understand why the classic has been removed :thumbsup:

 

[tanyia]

just been told that the bwra jack cadman is no longer a classic event, WHY  (w00t)   :b
anyone know, ?? and as this got anything to do with the petition going a round ??

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I don't think the BWRA are responsible for the Jack Cadman no longer being a classic event. This surely is due to the Whippet News, the top ten competition belongs to them.

The BWRA were informed at the AGM/PROPOSAL MEETING when the proposal to change the format of the JACK CADMAN was put forward that classic staus was awarded to certain opens by Whippet News due to format and status of a particular open and if the format was to change of any open that had CLASSIC STATUS it would be withdrawn, it was also suggested that members should be made aware of this when being asked to vote on it,

This is one of the reasons why there needs to be more communication between the executive committee and the reps to enable the reps to be able to make sure the members know what is going on and what they are voting in or out

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[/quoteThats right Linda it was pointed out at the agm/prop meeting if the Jack Cadmen it would lose its classic status, and it should of been printed on the postal votes.

 

[hellbound]

just been told that the bwra jack cadman is no longer a classic event, WHY (w00t) :b
anyone know, ?? and as this got anything to do with the petition going a round ??

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I don't think the BWRA are responsible for the Jack Cadman no longer being a classic event. This surely is due to the Whippet News, the top ten competition belongs to them.

The BWRA were informed at the AGM/PROPOSAL MEETING when the proposal to change the format of the JACK CADMAN was put forward that classic staus was awarded to certain opens by Whippet News due to format and status of a particular open and if the format was to change of any open that had CLASSIC STATUS it would be withdrawn, it was also suggested that members should be made aware of this when being asked to vote on it,

the jack cadman had already been changed after a proposal put forward not once but twice by no other than the editor of whippet news first in 2003 and then again in 2004 yes thats right Chris Cornish, sec Amanda Causies the jack cadman and abcde to split into two groups 18 votes to leave it as it is 36 votes this vote being taken in the agm, then Chris Cornish put the proposal in again sec G. Fox, in 2004 THAT THE JACK CADMAN BE SPLIT INTO TWO GROUPS UPTO 24LB AND UPTO 32LB this went out to a postal vote and the same committee counted the vote then as counted the vote this time,i.e Doreen, and the vote was FOR 129 AGAINST 40 ABS 13, so the format had already been changed and the event still kept the CLASSIC STATUS,

 

[nova]

I for one voted for it to stay the same, week in week out we run dogs and bitches seperate in differentweight classes. when dogs are running well you can nearly always pick the winner. With the Jack Cadman being all in, even now it is split in to two classes , you always get good interesting races as you get the best dogs and bitches running togeather. It has always been classsed as a prestige event .If people thought it took to long it should have just been moved so it did not clash with any other event. for me it was a great pleasure to win this event with a dog.

 

[john m]

To my mind this event has been demeaned from a really good race meeting where you could have a pop at different dogs and bitches, to a run of the mill weight group event.

It is like making the Grand National horse race into an ordinary 2 mile handicap chase.

It should be a special event, one that should be run as intended by those who put up the trophy for this imo.

 

[unwanted]

its like most things in whippet racing john m through the years they have messed around with things that much that most things are going to the wall.

 

[JOHNG]

a lot of people did'nt know what they were voting for when they voted to change the format ( it's just like any other open now ),the pups and yearlings should have been moved to another date.

 

[mutley]

totally agree it should of been left as it always was a great classic :unsure: but now it doesn't deserve classic status if its ran to the changed format