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[pegun1]

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Hi,i still have available a dog puppy thats show potential,i would prefer he goes to a show home,but not essential,Hes Mainly Nevedith breeding ,Brindle Parti Colour.

Lovely Flashy puppy,I can email pics i will take some of him standing,he's outgoing and well socialised,please email for pictures.hes ready to go to his new home now,been raised with my kids,and hes been given homeopathic vaccine,he can still have vaccination from the vets,i gave them to the litter because there was a parvo outbreak in the area that we live.picture was when he was 5 weeks old.

 

[pegun1]

Oh i forgot to say :- " Mum /Dad and sister from previous litter can be seen,Kc Reg and wormed

 

[dawn]

Who are the sire and dam? and are they shown?

 

[pegun1]

Hi Dawn

the parents haven't been shown but thats down to my ill health not the dogs,my intention was to show originally,The breeding is there,and he is a very nice puppy :wub: with a lovely head,this is a repeat mateing the last litter was nice too.I will post better pictures soon, my camera is acting up so sorry for the quality of the pictures,I will get some better ones soon,but hopefully gives you an idea of what he looks like

Kind Regards Dawn

Ch Nevedith Eefa Empra

Sire: Royal Court Jester

Nevedith Yippy Yum Yum

Nevedith Yippy Yuppy Of Loroli

Dam: Roedeane Camomile

Roedeane Kizzy

 

[pegun1]

 

[Avalonia]

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I don't know this breeder but I can tell you that if I were in England I would have a serious look at this pup. He shows much promise. As many of you know we have bred for much of two decades with a heavy reliance on Nevedith lines. This puppy -- no surprise -- looks like a typical Nevedith male, and we have several dogs at our place that could be his brothers, or first cousins. Visit our website -- www.avaloniawhippets.com and look at the news page and see photos taken earlier this summer of Ch. Avalonia Edradour and his litter brother Avalonia Glenlochie. That is what this puppy will look like as an adult.

This is actually quite a nice linebreeding. In addition to seeing Empra there, which is nice, the Yippy dogs on both sides of the pedigree carry honest to heaven quality that you cannot buy any more. The sire of all the Yippy puppies is Eng.Ch. Nevedith Quality Quire at Loroli, a son of Eng.Slov.Int.Ch. Pardee Appy Arry at Nevedith who was exported to Slovenia and is owned by Ales Novak. Arry is a son of Ch. Nevedith Justa Jesta out of Pardee Parisienne Girl, one of the nicest Pardee bred bitches I ever saw. And the dam was Nevedith Inter Lace. Interlace was a daughter of Eng.Ch. Carmodian Tawny Knight of Hutaka, ex Eng.Ch. Huntress of Nevedith. I had the good fortune to own both a daughter and a half brother of Huntress, who was my favourite Nevedith bitch of all time (I liked her more than Nutshell and I knew both dogs well).

The dam of the Yippy pups was Nevedith Justa Joy, a lovely small black brindle and white bitch who was a litter sister of Jesta and Eng.Ch. N. Justa Jenie and the rest of the double Js. That makes Crufts BIS winner Eng.Ch. Pencloe Dutch Gold, and the top winning whippet of all time, Eng.Ch. Nutshell of Nevedith, the grandparents of the Yippies, and the great grandparents of the pup.

Pedigrees like this are hard to come by, and in my view, anything that comes up out of a pedigree like this deserves a real hard look. I really like this pup and would certainly consider giving him a shot if I were looking for a flashy show quality male. Looking at the photos and considering his bone I would also suggest he is going to be moderate in size. As many of you know we are very partial to males... if I were in England....!

Lanny Morry

 

[Nine Lives]

Hello pegun (?),

what a lovely puppy !

I trust Lanny`s opinion a lot, since my Avalonia Jesta Rogue, pure Nevedith bred, came over from Canada and is not only a fine showdog, but also an excellent stud dog.

And also my own eyes show me the quality of that pup. Are you interested to send him abroad ? I am living in Serbia due to my job as a member of the foreign service and the little chap would fit perfectly to my bitches. Re Ales Novak, the owner of Pardee Appy Arry....I just bought a bitch puppy, granddaughter of Appy Arry. of him. She will be picked up in two weeks, mosty Nevedith bred with a bit of Sporting Fields.

Ulrike

 

[Avalonia]

The dam of the Yippy pups was Nevedith Justa Joy, a lovely small black brindle and white bitch who was a litter sister of Jesta and Eng.Ch. N. Justa Jenie and the rest of the double Js.  That makes Crufts BIS winner Eng.Ch. Pencloe Dutch Gold, and the top winning whippet of all time, Eng.Ch. Nutshell of Nevedith, the grandparents of the Yippies, and the great grandparents of the pup. 

Where would you be without your friends? My very good friend with the very good memory, Bart Scheerens in Belgium has rightfully reminded me that I have again mixed up the colour of Nevedith Justa Joy and Nevedith Justa Jewel, two of the three litter sisters of the famous double J litter. In fact Jewel was the black brindle and white and she was exported to the continent. Joy was a fawn like her celebrated father Dutch Gold, and what a fawn she turned out to be in the whelping box! When bred to Dumbriton Joking Apart, one of a litter of three out of Jesta and a gorgeous Birkonbrae bitch, she produced Eng.Aust.NZ Ch. Nevedith Rare Rogue. So she is grandmother of the double V litter which included N. Veefa Vanity who won the Whippet Centennary show in the late 90s, and when that breeding was completed, she produced the Ceefa litter, including Eng.&Cdn.Ch. Nevedith Ceefa Ceely whom we have the absolutely delight to own. That is where all the fawn in the Veefa and Ceefa litters comes from.

I am clipping a candid, not wonderful photo of Ceely's son born on 31 March 2006 with my son Mick, who is breeder of all Avalonia whippets. This is Avalonia Reckless Rogue, son of Fin.Swed.Cdn.Ch. Scheik's Ardbeg Avalonia (imp. Finland) x Eng.Cdn.Ch. Nevedith Ceefa Ceely.

Lanny Morry

 

[dessie]

Joy was a fawn like her celebrated father Dutch Gold

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Um ............... last time I saw Dutch Gold he was a brindle!!!

 

[Avalonia]

Joy was a fawn like her celebrated father Dutch Gold

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Um ............... last time I saw Dutch Gold he was a brindle!!!

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This is a hair splitter. As someone with a houseful of brindles I do not consider a dog with a handful of pale, almost imperceptible brindle markings -- mostly on his non-show side -- to be a brindle. I do not know how he was registered, but it is a reach to call a dog so overwhelmingly fawn in overall presentation to be a brindle. His father, on the other hand, was a clear brindle. I photographed Dutch Gold at the Centennary in 1998 as he did his trip around the ring of honour with his owner/breeder Morag, and if you asked me to describe him then I would call him a fawn because that is how he presented. I pulled that photo this evening along with the Dog World supplement with his photo when he won BIS at Crufts and in both cases what you see is a fawn dog. You need a magnifying glass to find brindling. We have a whippet bitch who has exactly two brindles but everyone who sees her calls her a fawn, except, interestingly, a fawn breeder friend who calls her a brindle because of those two pale brindles. For our part, we registered her as a fawn despite the two brindles. I understand that fawn breeders consider the least brindle sufficient to make a dog a brindle, but on my side of the equation, as a brindle owner and breeder, a slight hint of brindle on a dog overwhelmingly fawn makes the dog a fawn. Six of one, and a half dozen of the other.

Lanny

 

[Millie]

Heres a pic of dutch gold

 

[doris]

and here is a picture of our Sunny on his 12th birthday, just 3 months before he crossed the bridge

he was half brother to Dutch Gold (same sire) and he is definately brindle! I think :wacko:

either way, that is a lovely pup, hope he finds a super home soon :luck:

can you put on any pics of family members?

 

[Avalonia]

and here is a picture of our Sunny on his 12th birthday, just 3 months before he crossed the bridge
he was half brother to Dutch Gold (same sire) and he is definately brindle!  I think :wacko:

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I have the same picture of Dutch Gold and others, as I say where the brindling is so light it is almost imperceptable. Sunny shows a lot more brindle which I think was probably typical of what Fergal produced. This said, of course I accept that any sign of brindle on the coat means the dog is a brindle, but I still always think of a brindle as being one where the brindling is dramatic and very evident. Since most of our dogs are black or mahogany brindle, the brindling is obvious and often dramatic, especially as most of our dogs also have a fair share of white mixed with the brindle patches.. We did have a lovely solid female just the colour of your Sunny. Her name was Runaround Jenny Wren, she was bred by my good friend who died way too young, June Cross, and she was a daughter of Chyton Triffick who was out of Chyton Copy Press. The Wren lived to be 17 years, 5 months and 25 days our oldest whippet ever.

Now lets hope that nice pup finds a good home!

Lanny

 

[Seraphina]

I have the same picture of Dutch Gold and others, as I say where the brindling is so light it is almost imperceptable.  Sunny shows a lot more brindle which I think was probably typical of what Fergal produced.

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Even little bit of brindling makes the dog genetically brindle. To register brindle dog as fawn could create problems down the track as people could question voracity of a pedigree if two (supposedly) fawns would produce brindle pups. I think it is imperative that we use the correct terms describing colours.

 

[Seraphina]

I have the same picture of Dutch Gold and others, as I say where the brindling is so light it is almost imperceptable.  Sunny shows a lot more brindle which I think was probably typical of what Fergal produced.

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Even little bit of brindling makes the dog genetically brindle. To register brindle dog as fawn could create problems down the track as people could question voracity of a pedigree if two (supposedly) fawns would produce brindle pups. I think it is imperative that we use the correct terms describing colours.

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meant veracity. :lol:

 

[dessie]

I have the same picture of Dutch Gold and others, as I say where the brindling is so light it is almost imperceptable.  Sunny shows a lot more brindle which I think was probably typical of what Fergal produced.

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Even little bit of brindling makes the dog genetically brindle. To register brindle dog as fawn could create problems down the track as people could question voracity of a pedigree if two (supposedly) fawns would produce brindle pups. I think it is imperative that we use the correct terms describing colours.

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meant veracity. :lol:

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I agree!!

 

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I don't know this breeder but I can tell you that if I were in England I would have a serious look at this pup. He shows much promise. As many of you know we have bred for much of two decades with a heavy reliance on Nevedith lines. This puppy -- no surprise -- looks like a typical Nevedith male, and we have several dogs at our place that could be his brothers, or first cousins. Visit our website -- www.avaloniawhippets.com and look at the news page and see photos taken earlier this summer of Ch. Avalonia Edradour and his litter brother Avalonia Glenlochie. That is what this puppy will look like as an adult.

This is actually quite a nice linebreeding. In addition to seeing Empra there, which is nice, the Yippy dogs on both sides of the pedigree carry honest to heaven quality that you cannot buy any more. The sire of all the Yippy puppies is Eng.Ch. Nevedith Quality Quire at Loroli, a son of Eng.Slov.Int.Ch. Pardee Appy Arry at Nevedith who was exported to Slovenia and is owned by Ales Novak. Arry is a son of Ch. Nevedith Justa Jesta out of Pardee Parisienne Girl, one of the nicest Pardee bred bitches I ever saw. And the dam was Nevedith Inter Lace. Interlace was a daughter of Eng.Ch. Carmodian Tawny Knight of Hutaka, ex Eng.Ch. Huntress of Nevedith. I had the good fortune to own both a daughter and a half brother of Huntress, who was my favourite Nevedith bitch of all time (I liked her more than Nutshell and I knew both dogs well).

The dam of the Yippy pups was Nevedith Justa Joy, a lovely small black brindle and white bitch who was a litter sister of Jesta and Eng.Ch. N. Justa Jenie and the rest of the double Js. That makes Crufts BIS winner Eng.Ch. Pencloe Dutch Gold, and the top winning whippet of all time, Eng.Ch. Nutshell of Nevedith, the grandparents of the Yippies, and the great grandparents of the pup.

Pedigrees like this are hard to come by, and in my view, anything that comes up out of a pedigree like this deserves a real hard look. I really like this pup and would certainly consider giving him a shot if I were looking for a flashy show quality male. Looking at the photos and considering his bone I would also suggest he is going to be moderate in size. As many of you know we are very partial to males... if I were in England....!

Lanny Morry

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You on commission Lanny :lol:

Im sorry, but just because a pup has line breeding and the odd good dog behind it dosnt automatically make it a good show specimin , now does it , otherwise every dog in a litter would make champion , thats why we TRY to pick the pick of litter and pet home the rest . If only it were that easy :wacko:

Would you buy a pup for showing just from a photo , surely movement should come into it too

As for Dutch , he was most definatly brindle ,I stood behind him with Badger on more than one occasion ( and in front too )

 

[Avalonia]

[Would you buy a pup for showing just from a photo , surely movement should come into it too 
As for Dutch , he was most definatly brindle ,I stood behind him with Badger on more than one occasion ( and in front too  )

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Hi back. A fast note before I head off to a show this morning... we have clusters of shows over weekends, and this weekend we have four separate shows where points are on offer. This is day three. I am delighted that our Avalonia Glenlochy was BOB both days so far (he is a son of Ch. Nevedith Local Lancer x Ch. Avalonia Barbados) and more good news came with the fact that both days Avalonia All Hallow's Eve was BOS. That made her a new Canadian champion. She is owned by Americans who brought her up from Maryland where they live to show, so they only come to a couple of Canadian shows a year. Last year she got a fabulous start when Frank Kane came to Canada, made her BOB and 4th in the group as a senior puppy. Eve is sired by Ch. Avalonia Wotta Jesta (our son of Jesta) out of Eng.Cdn.Ch. Nevedith Ceefa Ceely.

I have already conceded Dutch was a brindle because he had brindles and obviously it is only appropriate that he was registered that way. I guess what I am saying is his brindles were not dominant like they are in most of the dogs we breed. We have a male from Rudi Brandt in Denmark, Cdn.Ch. Frontrunner's Full Monty (son of N. Veefa Vagabond, so the Dutch Gold connection is obviously close here too) who has a lot more white that Dutch Gold did but he also has those very very light brindles.

And to get back to the pup. No I would not buy a dog from someone I do not know and have not seen the breeding program of sight unseen however pretty the dog, however wonderful the pedigree, because for us movement is everything and a dog that isn't true coming and goind, and that doesn't move out with great drive from the rear and good front reach is an incomplete package, despite the pedigree. There are very few people on earth I would trust to buy a dog from sight unseen, but I would take the recommendation of a breeder with whom I am very familiar, and whose bloodline I am intimately familiar with. We have brought in dogs with bloodlines compatible with our breeding program from the Newtons in England that way, as well as from Rudi in Denmark, Jarmo Vuorinen in Finland and Bart Scheerens in Belgium. All I was suggesting was this pup is at least worth a visit and a look (which is why I said wish I were in England... because I would have visited to see the pup in person). I have certainly seen litters where the pedigree on paper is promising and the litter turns out to be a complete wash!

Lanny

 

[doris]

oh great! fantastic pedigree's can still lead to not fantastic pups!

so, if for example, that some time in the future, I was to look for a pup that I would like to show . . . . . ?

if it's so difficult to get it right, as breeders, then what chance does a novice like me have? :wacko: Its not like we'd keep buying pups until we found the 'right' one

answers on a postcard please :lol:

 

[renee]

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oh great! fantastic pedigree's can still lead to not fantastic pups!
so, if for example, that some time in the future, I was to look for a pup that I would like to show . . . . . ?

if it's so difficult to get it right, as breeders, then what chance does a novice like me have? :wacko:   Its not like we'd keep buying pups until we found the 'right' one

answers on a postcard please :lol:

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I am surprised there has been all this discussion about the photo of this puppy and none of you breeders have thought to tell the breeder to cut this poor little boys nails .