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[lalena]

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there would be no choice about this for me.if i couldnt take my dogs then id insist on staying with them.they have as much right to life as i do.theyd have to drag me kicking and screaming out of there.i think its terrible to subject traumatised people to this kind of treatment.after all theyve been through to demand that they leave their beloved pets behind can result in lifetime trauma and guilt for these poor survivors.

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i totally agree, but i mean rescue workers. bad enough their owners abandoning them, and then people helping evacuate the city under orders to ignore those poor helpless animals

 

[mazza]

there would be no choice about this for me.if i couldnt take my dogs then id insist on staying with them.they have as much right to life as i do.theyd have to drag me kicking and screaming out of there.i think its terrible to subject traumatised people to this kind of treatment.after all theyve been through to demand that they leave their beloved pets behind can result in lifetime trauma and guilt for these poor survivors.

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i totally agree, but i mean rescue workers. bad enough their owners abandoning them, and then people helping evacuate the city under orders to ignore those poor helpless animals

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This is a terrible situation for the people and animals. :angry:

This is taking away peoples human rights. :rant:

Leaving these animals behind is just signing a death sentence for them, the place is full of toxic water.

 

[Janimal]

The saying is definitely true.... An animal is [SIZE=14pt]FOR LIFE[/SIZE]

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Sorry if this is slightly off topic guys, but I was watching footage of the New Orleans floods on the tv last week. They were busing people out of the area after the flood. There was a little maltese standing looking at the bus as it pulled away. It was a pet of nine years. Survivors were not allowed to take there pets on the buses, were made to leave them behind :angry: .

Has haunted me all week I KNOW I could not get on that bus.

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Didnt see that particular story Karen, but did see one old man who had to leave his house with 3 cats - he opened all the tins of cat food he had before leaving I felt so sorry for this man and he was in tears as he left. I couldnt hep thinking about what would become of all those abandoned animals.

 

[Susan]

:angry: So these people are being forced to leave thier pet's :angry:

That is giving these poor pet's a slow / painfull DEATH :rant:

I could never leave my dog's behind to die like that. Thank god I live here.

 

[JoJess]

:rant: This is really heart breaking, why oh why can't they rescue the animals as well :angry: I am afraid my place would be with my animals for I could never ever leave them there to die alone

 

[mazza]

Surely vets would take the route of rehoming healthy young dogs that are brought in by a*******s to be pts.

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They should make certain with the owners that it is appropriate to rehome the dog though.

Speaking from experience, I had a dog, bitch actually, that adopted me. She’d probably been left behind by her previous owner in the complex we lived and was feral. She ended up on my doorstop after being maimed in a dog fight. Ever the sucker, I took her in and she got better and very attached to me. She hated men and disliked children. We took pains to keep her away from both. One day she bit a child. He was in her yard teasing her when it happened. She spent 10 days in quarantine at the Humane Society and when she came home she was even more attached to me than before.

Eventually we were re-assigned and had to move. I could not take her with me so I took her to the vet and requested he euthanise her. He asked if he could rehome her (she was young and healthy) and I had to say no, the dog is not trustworthy. I sincerely hope he listened to me and if I ever had to do it again, I would wait with the dog for the injection and not be such a coward.

Just another side to consider, although I agree, there are a lot of people who shouldn't own a tomato, let alone a dog.

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Sorry that euthanasia was the only option for her. As she had bitten a child it would have been difficult to find the right home for her. What breed was she?

Sounds like she was badly treated by the previous owners, as she had this fear of men and children before you took her in. Who knows what damage was done to her mentally.

At least she had a better life in the time she had with you. Sorry you had to lose her.

I'm sure vets would not dissuade people from having healthy dogs pts if they thought the dog could be dangerous.

Vets can only act on what the owners tell them.

 

[Tesa]

The saying is definitely true.... An animal is [SIZE=14pt]FOR LIFE[/SIZE]

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Sorry if this is slightly off topic guys, but I was watching footage of the New Orleans floods on the tv last week. They were busing people out of the area after the flood. There was a little maltese standing looking at the bus as it pulled away. It was a pet of nine years. Survivors were not allowed to take there pets on the buses, were made to leave them behind :angry: .

Has haunted me all week I KNOW I could not get on that bus.

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saw an article in the sun paper about that....you have to feel awful in those circumstances, having to choose.

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Not a choice for me. We don't have children, our dogs are our children. Where we go, they go. Could not live my life knowing I'd abandoned them.

 

[Seraphina]

I have seen similar scenes from New Orleans, where the soldiers were forcing people to leave their animals behind. I wouldn't go without my dogs eaither, but sometimes person has to make a choice. In 1992 we had to evacuate as a firestorm was coming our direction. I took the dogs, cats, rabbits, baby lamb,but ther was no way I could fit in my car all the other animals. I had to leave the goats and chooks. Fortunately the wind turned and the fire stopped about 1/2 mile from our property.

I cannot belive that these poor people who a;ready lost everything are forced to abbandon their pets. I imagine the army is going to shoot them when there are no people around. :rant:

Lida

 

[Seraphina]

Back to the original topic;

I think that the best way to stop people to treat animals as a disposable commodity would be to introduce dog owner license as well as all dogs being microchipped. In order to keep a dog (or other animal) you would have to register yourself and when you acquire an animal this would be registered to your license. When somebody sells an animal they would have to put the new owner’s license number on the transfer papers, which they would send to the registry. When animal was to pts the license would have to be also shown and the registry notified.

That way serial offenders would be easily found and their privilege to keep animals could be revoked.

I would also like to see a microchipping system where the breeders name would ALWAYS stay on the record. This would enable for the breeders to be notified if a dog they bred was abandoned and give them a chance to rescue him. That would also bring to light if any breeder produces large number of dogs, which end up in rescue centers.

Dogs sold in pet shops would have the name of the pet shop permanently on their microchip registrations.

Lida

 

[Phoenyx]

I'll copy part of my post from another thread here as it's also relevant to this one:

A lot of the problem lies though with people either not realising that rescues are there to help or being too afraid of being judged to approach one. I know of a couple of people personally that have had bad experiences when they approached other rescues.Red, one of our old greyhounds, was turned away by a greyhound rescue simply because the RGT had contacted them on behalf of the owner and the rescue had a blanket policy of not dealing with the RGT in any shape or form. Nearly cost Red her life, thankfully they managed to try me as a last resort.

Lets face it, if I'm completely honest here, some rescues will not deal with trainers/breeders/racing people at all because they're against the whole training/breeding/racing way of life. Personally I'll work with anyone if it saves a dog, no matter what my personal opinions are it's the rescue side that matters most. Really riles me that personal ethics can get in the way of dogs' lives sometimes. 

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[*Lesley*]

Does anyone know why they actually stopped doing the dog license in the first place,

I think microchipping should be compulsory and when you get a dog it should have some form of ID card/license with colours markings ect maybe a pic+the chip number on it then if you were to sell/rehome a dog it would have to be reregistered to the new owner so there was a record of the dogs ownership that way it could be traced back to it's owner, especially if it was abandoned or left to stray then the owner should incurr large fines for not not looking after them properly.

I you had to have proper ID to be the owner of the dog it might make it easier for owners losing a dog or having one stolen to get them back

 

[Mark Roberts]

well said Lesley.

 

[quintessence]

I agree Lesley although I think the answer would be that these things are too costly to administer , lets face it they can't get the Child Support Agency working properly how are they ever going to enforce registering dogs. We all know how much we have to pay the Kennel Club for our transactions with them.

I know someone who has just paid £350 for a puppy it is a cross westi/shih tzu - a so-called designer dog. I asked why she had bought it and not bought either a westie or a shih tzu and her answer was that it was different, she could explain to people the parentage but not everyone has one. There were four puppies in the litter, each one sold for £350 and the breeder is going to repeat the mating. The breeder obviously sees it as a financial exercise and there is no-one to monitor the number of litters this bitch has because they are not registered anywhere except in her bank account.

Jenny

 

[Seraphina]

I agree Lesley although I think the answer would be that these things are too costly to administer ,

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The company handling the microchip registrations already has all the info. Here in Australia, I can access my file on line to see whom I have registered in my name. So it is all there, we have here now legislation pending to make it a law that all pets have to be microchipped. It should not be too difficult to go the next step to weed out those who PTS animals without legitimate reason, or dump them to rescue centers

Lida