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bertha said:
Good. Advertising on the net IMO is not good, all sorts put adds on there like that poor beddie and her pups. How can people treat dogs like that. They should be ashamed.
This sort of reply is why i asked the question in the first place.

I dont understand your problem with the net/epupz what ever

you want to call it. All sorts can advertise in the papers,

online in fact any where they choose.

Yet epupz causes such a fuss when mentioned on K9.

 

Its up to the breeder to choose wisely where the pups go and

its up to the buyer to choose wisely where they buy. Both parties

should be happy with their decision to buy/sell the puppy with

that person.

 

I have recently been enquiring about pups. And i see one of the

litters is now on epupz and i've got to be honest and say the

breeder of this litter was the one who asked me most question

and seemed the most concerned for the welfare of the pups.

I was asked questions about my girls i have, my work, where i

ran the dogs, was my garden suitable and some others.

Which was nice when another one was more concerned would

it be cash or cheque !
 
davethehorse said:
*dejavu* said:
Well, when you have total novices breeding their first ever litter & dont frankly have a clue, advertising on here for £650 a pup, which is way above what most reputable show folk that have a wealth of experience would be charging it makes you realise that these sort of sites are nothing more than a money making venture for those that are out to make a quick buck.  :- "
Everyone who breeds a litter has to start somewhere; i.e. have their first litter, I dont agree it means you "dont have a clue" about it, ours is a first litter but we read up, got advice and were well prepared :thumbsup:


You have missed my point, its not just about someone breeding their first litter BUT charging well over the odds for the pups when experienced knowledgeable breeders are charging no where near those prices. Its almost as if they are thinking their pups are so much better that they think they can charge these over inflated prices.

Everyone has to start somewhere & hopefully research will have been done prior but why then price those pups above everyone else's, if its not just to blatantly try & make money?

If these people have got a clue which you are assuming they have, they would be clued up enough to know what the going price of a well bred pup is & its not £650!
 
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June Jonigk said:
*dejavu* said:
Well, when you have total novices breeding their first ever litter & dont frankly have a clue, advertising on here for £650 a pup, which is way above what most reputable show folk that have a wealth of experience would be charging it makes you realise that these sort of sites are nothing more than a money making venture for those that are out to make a quick buck.  :- "
I'm not sure where your information is coming from, but you won't find litters for £650 advertised on here - advertising of puppies is against K9 rules :thumbsup:


Sorry you misunderstood, i was replying to a post about Epupz so when i said "on here" i was referring to on Epupz. I know advertisements for puppies are not allowed on this forum. :thumbsup:
 
AnnSa said:
bertha said:
Good. Advertising on the net IMO is not good, all sorts put adds on there like that poor beddie and her pups. How can people treat dogs like that. They should be ashamed.
This sort of reply is why i asked the question in the first place.

I dont understand your problem with the net/epupz what ever

you want to call it. All sorts can advertise in the papers,

online in fact any where they choose.

Yet epupz causes such a fuss when mentioned on K9.

 

Its up to the breeder to choose wisely where the pups go and

its up to the buyer to choose wisely where they buy. Both parties

should be happy with their decision to buy/sell the puppy with

that person.

 

I have recently been enquiring about pups. And i see one of the

litters is now on epupz and i've got to be honest and say the

breeder of this litter was the one who asked me most question

and seemed the most concerned for the welfare of the pups.

I was asked questions about my girls i have, my work, where i

ran the dogs, was my garden suitable and some others.

Which was nice when another one was more concerned would

it be cash or cheque !



That is precisely the point I was trying to make in my post. You get good and bad wherever you look for a dog. It is important that both the breeder and purchaser are happy. When looking at a litter there is no obligation to purchase or sell everybody should be happy with the transaction.
 
I don't have a major problem with breeders advertising their pups on epupz- seems to me it's more a case of 'buyer beware' than 'seller beware' :blink:

I am one of those strange people who does look on epupz every few days- just nosey I guess :- " and you get to know the people who always seem to have puppies advertised on there, promising they are show quality or good workers or whatever. These are people I certainly would not want to buy a puppy from, but then I know where to look for a well bred puppy.

How would anyone not already in the breed or a member of a forum such as this know where to go for their first puppy? :wacko: There are so many of these puppy-selling sites- I have just done a Google search for 'Whippet puppies' and the first page of links were these type of sites, epupz being the second one listed.

How are newcomers to know that some breeders are to be avoided? :blink:

Liz and the Monellis
 
*dejavu* said:
davethehorse said:
*dejavu* said:
Well, when you have total novices breeding their first ever litter & dont frankly have a clue, advertising on here for £650 a pup, which is way above what most reputable show folk that have a wealth of experience would be charging it makes you realise that these sort of sites are nothing more than a money making venture for those that are out to make a quick buck.  :- "
Everyone who breeds a litter has to start somewhere; i.e. have their first litter, I dont agree it means you "dont have a clue" about it, ours is a first litter but we read up, got advice and were well prepared :thumbsup:


You have missed my point, its not just about someone breeding their first litter BUT charging well over the odds for the pups when experienced knowledgeable breeders are charging no where near those prices. Its almost as if they are thinking their pups are so much better that they think they can charge these over inflated prices.

Everyone has to start somewhere & hopefully research will have been done prior but why then price those pups above everyone else's, if its not just to blatantly try & make money?

If these people have got a clue which you are assuming they have, they would be clued up enough to know what the going price of a well bred pup is & its not £650!

Davethehorse and I are not "assuming" anything in relation to anybody else. We can can only speak for ourselves. By the way, do you have a whippy and did you buy it from a rescue centre?

I have seen one litter advertised at £600 on Epupz. This is a breeder who has been in the breeding game for many years from what I could ascertain, as I rang the person for a chat as I wanted to know why her pups were considerably more expensive that all the others. The vast majority on Epuz advertise for around £400. Don't know where you got the £650 figure from and how you know that these are people with their first litter? Its worth bearing in mind that around 3,000 pedigree whippets are bred each year, compared to something like 35,000 labradors.
 
i noticed on epupz and similar sites, that in some of the other breeds on there, their relevant breed rescue's have also taken out rival ad's promoting the rehoming of rescue dogs of that particular breed.... i would think that this might encourage some people to consider more carefully where they purchase their puppy/dog from.

possibly a good way to try and encourage more careful thought from an unsuspecting 1st time puppy buyer that could have been taken in by the proffesional and respectable sounding adverts that these puppy farmers can expertly spin :thumbsup:
 
Suzycbee said:
*dejavu* said:
davethehorse said:
*dejavu* said:
Well, when you have total novices breeding their first ever litter & dont frankly have a clue, advertising on here for £650 a pup, which is way above what most reputable show folk that have a wealth of experience would be charging it makes you realise that these sort of sites are nothing more than a money making venture for those that are out to make a quick buck.  :- "
Everyone who breeds a litter has to start somewhere; i.e. have their first litter, I dont agree it means you "dont have a clue" about it, ours is a first litter but we read up, got advice and were well prepared :thumbsup:


You have missed my point, its not just about someone breeding their first litter BUT charging well over the odds for the pups when experienced knowledgeable breeders are charging no where near those prices. Its almost as if they are thinking their pups are so much better that they think they can charge these over inflated prices.

Everyone has to start somewhere & hopefully research will have been done prior but why then price those pups above everyone else's, if its not just to blatantly try & make money?

If these people have got a clue which you are assuming they have, they would be clued up enough to know what the going price of a well bred pup is & its not £650!

Davethehorse and I are not "assuming" anything in relation to anybody else. We can can only speak for ourselves. By the way, do you have a whippy and did you buy it from a rescue centre?

I have seen one litter advertised at £600 on Epupz. This is a breeder who has been in the breeding game for many years from what I could ascertain, as I rang the person for a chat as I wanted to know why her pups were considerably more expensive that all the others. The vast majority on Epuz advertise for around £400. Don't know where you got the £650 figure from and how you know that these are people with their first litter? Its worth bearing in mind that around 3,000 pedigree whippets are bred each year, compared to something like 35,000 labradors.


I suggest you take a better look then because the ad is there for all to see £650 a pup & i know for a fact this is the persons first litter as they have stated this elsewhere.

I am fully aware how many pedigree pups including whippets are bred a year, i am also fully aware of what reputable experienced breeders charge for a well bred pup AND ITS NOT £650.

I think i have made my point now or hope i have as its getting a little tedious keep explaining the same thing.
 
*dejavu* said:
Suzycbee said:
*dejavu* said:
davethehorse said:
*dejavu* said:
Well, when you have total novices breeding their first ever litter & dont frankly have a clue, advertising on here for £650 a pup, which is way above what most reputable show folk that have a wealth of experience would be charging it makes you realise that these sort of sites are nothing more than a money making venture for those that are out to make a quick buck.  :- "
Everyone who breeds a litter has to start somewhere; i.e. have their first litter, I dont agree it means you "dont have a clue" about it, ours is a first litter but we read up, got advice and were well prepared :thumbsup:


You have missed my point, its not just about someone breeding their first litter BUT charging well over the odds for the pups when experienced knowledgeable breeders are charging no where near those prices. Its almost as if they are thinking their pups are so much better that they think they can charge these over inflated prices.

Everyone has to start somewhere & hopefully research will have been done prior but why then price those pups above everyone else's, if its not just to blatantly try & make money?

If these people have got a clue which you are assuming they have, they would be clued up enough to know what the going price of a well bred pup is & its not £650!

Davethehorse and I are not "assuming" anything in relation to anybody else. We can can only speak for ourselves. By the way, do you have a whippy and did you buy it from a rescue centre?

I have seen one litter advertised at £600 on Epupz. This is a breeder who has been in the breeding game for many years from what I could ascertain, as I rang the person for a chat as I wanted to know why her pups were considerably more expensive that all the others. The vast majority on Epuz advertise for around £400. Don't know where you got the £650 figure from and how you know that these are people with their first litter? Its worth bearing in mind that around 3,000 pedigree whippets are bred each year, compared to something like 35,000 labradors.


I suggest you take a better look then because the ad is there for all to see £650 a pup & i know for a fact this is the persons first litter as they have stated this elsewhere.

I am fully aware how many pedigree pups including whippets are bred a year, i am also fully aware of what reputable experienced breeders charge for a well bred pup AND ITS NOT £650.

I think i have made my point now or hope i have as its getting a little tedious keep explaining the same thing.

It must be tedious to be so AWARE :D
 
Suzycbee said:
*dejavu* said:
Suzycbee said:
*dejavu* said:
davethehorse said:
*dejavu* said:
Well, when you have total novices breeding their first ever litter & dont frankly have a clue, advertising on here for £650 a pup, which is way above what most reputable show folk that have a wealth of experience would be charging it makes you realise that these sort of sites are nothing more than a money making venture for those that are out to make a quick buck.  :- "
Everyone who breeds a litter has to start somewhere; i.e. have their first litter, I dont agree it means you "dont have a clue" about it, ours is a first litter but we read up, got advice and were well prepared :thumbsup:


You have missed my point, its not just about someone breeding their first litter BUT charging well over the odds for the pups when experienced knowledgeable breeders are charging no where near those prices. Its almost as if they are thinking their pups are so much better that they think they can charge these over inflated prices.

Everyone has to start somewhere & hopefully research will have been done prior but why then price those pups above everyone else's, if its not just to blatantly try & make money?

If these people have got a clue which you are assuming they have, they would be clued up enough to know what the going price of a well bred pup is & its not £650!

Davethehorse and I are not "assuming" anything in relation to anybody else. We can can only speak for ourselves. By the way, do you have a whippy and did you buy it from a rescue centre?

I have seen one litter advertised at £600 on Epupz. This is a breeder who has been in the breeding game for many years from what I could ascertain, as I rang the person for a chat as I wanted to know why her pups were considerably more expensive that all the others. The vast majority on Epuz advertise for around £400. Don't know where you got the £650 figure from and how you know that these are people with their first litter? Its worth bearing in mind that around 3,000 pedigree whippets are bred each year, compared to something like 35,000 labradors.


I suggest you take a better look then because the ad is there for all to see £650 a pup & i know for a fact this is the persons first litter as they have stated this elsewhere.

I am fully aware how many pedigree pups including whippets are bred a year, i am also fully aware of what reputable experienced breeders charge for a well bred pup AND ITS NOT £650.

I think i have made my point now or hope i have as its getting a little tedious keep explaining the same thing.

It must be tedious to be so AWARE :D


:- "
 
*dejavu* said:
Suzycbee said:
*dejavu* said:
Suzycbee said:
*dejavu* said:
davethehorse said:
*dejavu* said:
Well, when you have total novices breeding their first ever litter & dont frankly have a clue, advertising on here for £650 a pup, which is way above what most reputable show folk that have a wealth of experience would be charging it makes you realise that these sort of sites are nothing more than a money making venture for those that are out to make a quick buck.  :- "
Everyone who breeds a litter has to start somewhere; i.e. have their first litter, I dont agree it means you "dont have a clue" about it, ours is a first litter but we read up, got advice and were well prepared :thumbsup:


You have missed my point, its not just about someone breeding their first litter BUT charging well over the odds for the pups when experienced knowledgeable breeders are charging no where near those prices. Its almost as if they are thinking their pups are so much better that they think they can charge these over inflated prices.

Everyone has to start somewhere & hopefully research will have been done prior but why then price those pups above everyone else's, if its not just to blatantly try & make money?

If these people have got a clue which you are assuming they have, they would be clued up enough to know what the going price of a well bred pup is & its not £650!

Davethehorse and I are not "assuming" anything in relation to anybody else. We can can only speak for ourselves. By the way, do you have a whippy and did you buy it from a rescue centre?

I have seen one litter advertised at £600 on Epupz. This is a breeder who has been in the breeding game for many years from what I could ascertain, as I rang the person for a chat as I wanted to know why her pups were considerably more expensive that all the others. The vast majority on Epuz advertise for around £400. Don't know where you got the £650 figure from and how you know that these are people with their first litter? Its worth bearing in mind that around 3,000 pedigree whippets are bred each year, compared to something like 35,000 labradors.


I suggest you take a better look then because the ad is there for all to see £650 a pup & i know for a fact this is the persons first litter as they have stated this elsewhere.

I am fully aware how many pedigree pups including whippets are bred a year, i am also fully aware of what reputable experienced breeders charge for a well bred pup AND ITS NOT £650.

I think i have made my point now or hope i have as its getting a little tedious keep explaining the same thing.

It must be tedious to be so AWARE :D


:- "

Hey, just noticed you only joined a couple of weeks ago, so welcome to our happy forum. (w00t)
 
THERE is now also a 13 week old bitch pup on there for £500 :( IF MY PUPS CAME BACK AFTER THAT SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME I WOULD GIVE A FULL REFUND any reputable breeder would :thumbsup: I will take any of mine back at anytime NO MATTER WHAT you owe it to the puppys, we can vet potential owners very carefully but some still creep through the net and just lie their way to a puppy, it happened to me once and if it wasnt for the k9 ers i wouldnt have known it was on epupz as soon as i found out the pup was collected that evening and rehomed a few days later i still see him as he is in the local area :wub:
 

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