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[nina]

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I would rather do time than pay a fine or compensation to some low life that tried to nick my dog  :rant:   :rant:   :rant:


Julie

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Me too! :rant: :rant: Fortunately 1 of my male Whippets barks like mad & lunges if any strangers get too close to us when we're out walking. I used to discourage this behaviour, I don't any more!

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I had to pay a LOT of money to get my two back but at the time to be honest it meant nothing.

I had a phone call at 3am to say either i got the money or they would break their necks, at 3am how do you lay your hands on £1000 plus???

Rang some really good friends & there we all were at 4am at cash points all over the place withdrawing as much money as we could.

Had a meeting point & when i saw my two babies trust up with rope, legs bound together, bleeding. petrified & screaming being dragged along on their backs by the rope, the money was the last thing on my mind i can tell you.

Yes you hate to have to pay these parasites BUT to have your little ones back safe, trust me you do it.

Nina

 

[nina]

Meant to add:

same as paying a fine or compensation, at the end of the day as much as it might rip you to shreds to have to do it, you will always do what you have to to protect whats dear to you.

Nina

 

[kris]

sorry but reading some of the so called advice on here to break the law fills me with fear. :unsure: the law is the law.they dont take mitigating circumstances into the equation,as you will find out if you carry and use illegal substances like mace in this country.two wrongs DONT make a right.and its allright for someone advising you to use it and to hell with the consequences but would they do the time for your crime?i think not.listen to good advice from Helen who tells you to use legal items that you can carry and use within the law.i sell weapons and various other items that are legal to own and use in this country.but if i sold or used anything that was illegal the law would be down on me like a ton of bricks,female or not. (dont ever think being a female will protect you from the law,IT WONT!)

 

[Paula Roberts]

I"m prepared to do whatever needs to be done if this means i have to break the law to look after myself and family so be it, i would also be prepared to do whatever the law sees fit as a punishment for taking the law into my own hands.

 

[kris]

so you would be prepared to go to jail and serve time for what youve done.what happens to your children while youre inside?lets say your hubs is arrested and charged too as he was found guilty of providing the mace.not a very responsible attitude is it?and its irresponsible imho of anyone to incite someone to break the law when they dont have to face the charges.

 

[nina]

sorry but reading some of the so called advice on here to break the law fills me with fear. :unsure: the law is the law.they dont take mitigating circumstances into the equation,as you will find out if you carry and use illegal substances like mace in this country.two wrongs DONT make a right.and its allright for someone advising you to use it and to hell with the consequences but would they do the time for your crime?i think not.listen to good advice from Helen who tells you to use legal items that you can carry and use within the law.i sell weapons and various other items that are legal to own and use in this country.but if i sold or used anything that was illegal the law would be down on me like a ton of bricks,female or not. (dont ever think being a female will protect you from the law,IT WONT!)

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Yeah right!! In a perfect world the law is the law & we have a perfect police force & a perfect justice system & everyone abides by the rules & nobody would dream of breaking the law for fear of punishment.............

WAKE UP & SMELL THE COFFEE!!!!

I am not instructing or advising anyone to do anything BUT i will do what i have to to protect my own.

I will suffer the consequences whatever, but trust me NO ONE will ever take my dogs again & if that means being done for spraying them in the face with something nasty, so be it, i'll take my chances.

Nina

 

[nina]

sorry but reading some of the so called advice on here to break the law fills me with fear. :unsure: the law is the law.they dont take mitigating circumstances into the equation,as you will find out if you carry and use illegal substances like mace in this country.two wrongs DONT make a right.and its allright for someone advising you to use it and to hell with the consequences but would they do the time for your crime?i think not.listen to good advice from Helen who tells you to use legal items that you can carry and use within the law.i sell weapons and various other items that are legal to own and use in this country.but if i sold or used anything that was illegal the law would be down on me like a ton of bricks,female or not. (dont ever think being a female will protect you from the law,IT WONT!)

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2 wrongs dont make a right NO but sometimes you gotta fight fire with fire. Until you have been in a situation like this when something precious to you has been taken, its easy to spout the law.

End of the day when it does happen to you (god forbid it doesn't) you find out the so called law means DIDDLY!

Nina

 

[jok]

This is all scary stuff and i can luckily only imagine what it would be like.

However, lets at least get it in proportion. In going my job i have never come across someone who has had their dogs stolen whilst out walking (admittedly i have come across them being stolen from houses/gardens) and nor have any of my colleagues.

Its great to be aware of dangers and be on our guard, but i don't think we need to all be terrified of stepping out of the front door! Im sure you'll all just disagree and quote examples, but im just telling it how i've found it!

 

[nina]

However, lets at least get it in proportion.  In going my job i have never come across someone who has had their dogs stolen whilst out walking (admittedly i have come across them being stolen from houses/gardens) and nor have any of my colleagues.
Its great to be aware of dangers and be on our guard, but i don't think we need to all be terrified of stepping out of the front door!  Im sure you'll all just disagree and quote examples, but im just telling it how i've found it!

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You obviously don't live in my area!!!

Have to say i'd love to live in yours!!!

Nobody is trying to terrify anyone, its the last thing anyone wants to do.

Just want EVERYONE to be aware & vigilant.

This used to be a lovely quiet area, not a trouble spot, then the travellers moved in & now you have to be on your guard at all times, it can happen anywhere.

Also as the name implies "travellers" they can travel anywhere, so no matter where your nice quiet, safe, peaceful community may be, one day it may be your turn to be unlucky enough to find yourselves accomodating them.

Nina

 

[bappit]

Its easy to imagine how we may react to any threat/incident, but the reality can be quite different.

I dont know where anyone stands in a matter that could become classed as an assault - but as far as I'm aware reasonable measure's to defend yourself in the event of attack are acceptable. I take on board what kris is saying, and the input of everyone else on this topic which we clearly all feel quite strongly about, say if you do carry a stick for walking on rough terrain :- " I think that would be fair to use? The (legal) spray...surely fair enough?

What I hark back to was that Tina felt 'uncomfortable' by this man's questioning about her dogs...there was no physical threat as i recall, and can fully appreciate how uneasy this had made her feel, but lets keep a perspective folks :thumbsup:

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Sheena

 

[nina]

Its easy to imagine how we may react to any threat/incident, but the reality can be quite different.

I dont know where anyone stands in a matter that could become classed as an assault - but as far as I'm aware reasonable measure's to defend yourself in the event of attack are acceptable. I take on board what kris is saying, and the input of everyone else on this topic which we clearly all feel quite strongly about, say if you do carry a stick for walking on rough terrain :- " I think that would be fair to use? The (legal) spray...surely fair enough?

What I hark back to was that Tina felt 'uncomfortable' by this man's questioning about her dogs...there was no physical threat as i recall, and can fully appreciate how uneasy this had made her feel, but lets keep a perspective folks :thumbsup:

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Sheena

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True enough BUT where may this "questioning" have led if it wasn't for her relative turning up?????

None of us will ever know the answer to this, thankfully most importantly Tina herself.

In my books "there aint no smoke without fire" & lets remember it wasn't just questioning but offers of money being waved around.

Call me cynical but i have seen or heard most of the scams " the questioning", offers of cash, following you home without you knowing it. Turning up at your door some days later under the pretence of they are lost & do you know so & so who lives in the area & whilst you are busy talking to them at the door their side kicks are entering the back of your house!!

Maybe this guy was genuine & just out for a walk & his questions to Tina perfectly innocent & his offer's of cash just a genuinely impulsive gesture by a guy who loved dogs............................................................................

....ANYWAY.

Nina

 

[bappit]

Come on Nina...dont think any of us are quite as green as we're cabbage looking...alright best speak for myself, I'm alarmed at how stongly i can react to real threat...ok? Really scare myself dealing with the 'red mist' that can decend.

In a proper context in the circumstances the thread orginally started with, if I'd had a pound for every time I'd had a scenario like tina encountered... :b I'd have been waving a much bigger wad of real cash than the guy she encountered :b

Yes there is real danger on our doorstep for sure, and we should watch what we're doing...this has been a good thread to making us all aware, even if most of us were already... you have touched me and no doubt others with the hellish 1st hand experience you had and thats all to the good. :thumbsup:

 

[nina]

Come on Nina...dont think any of us are quite as green as we're cabbage looking...alright best speak for myself, I'm alarmed at how stongly i can react to real threat...ok? Really scare myself dealing with the 'red mist' that can decend.

In a proper context in the circumstances the thread orginally started with, if I'd had a pound for every time I'd had a scenario like tina encountered... :b I'd have been waving a much bigger wad of real cash than the guy she encountered :b

Yes there is real danger on our doorstep for sure, and we should watch what we're doing...this has been a good thread to making us all aware, even if most of us were already... you have touched me and no doubt others with the hellish 1st hand experience you had and thats all to the good. :thumbsup:

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It wasn't posted to "touch" anybody BUT if its made just one person who has'nt encountered this sort of situation just a little bit aware, i'm happy.

Its not about people being as green as cabbages, or being idiots in anyway BUT there is an awful lot of people out there who just do NOT know that this type of thing goes on.

To be honest, until i moved here & it happened to me, i didnt have a clue.

I'm not out to frighten anyone, make anyone too scared to walk their dogs or ridicule anyone. i just NEVER want anyone to go through that kind of situation or their dogs.

I will be the first to admit it scars you, the memory NEVER leaves you, you probably end up sounding totally OTT, for this i can only apologise.

Maybe enough has been said now on the subject.

To EVERYONE who has posted on this subject whether you have agreed or disagreed, it doesn't matter, you are AWARE, just keep safe, keep your dogs safe & try & enjoy your walks.

Nina

 

[bappit]

All to the good nina, all to the good :thumbsup: ...was'nt being patronising or snide to you or anyone else on here by any means.

 

[nina]

All to the good nina, all to the good :thumbsup: ...was'nt being patronising or snide to you or anyone else on here by any means.

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Ditto. I know & nor was i, you just really care about your dogs as we all do, so we all have the same thing in common & good that we can all hopefully help each other. )

Nina

 

[»Tina«]

I for one am glad I have started this topic as before I did have my head in the clouds on this subject, thinking it would never happen to me,

OK nothing DID happen but if my brother hadn't turned up when he did it COULD have gone terribly wrong, and I could be sat here in tears now or worse be in hospital or even dead,

this was truely an eye opener and I'm glad I'm so paranoid now when I go out for walks, keeps me one step ahead and alert )

 

[lalena]

how are you feeling in yourself today, tina? its really not on, people like that

being para is better than not, though. hope all goes well, and that you have no more problems :luck:

 

[»Tina«]

Hi Lalena,

I'm felling a bit more confident now that I have someone to walk with me at all times, but it doesn't stop me looking over my shoulder and being paranoid, which in my book is not so bad really.

 

[lalena]

its a good mind set, for preventing other crimes too. muggers, for example, target people who's heads are in the clouds, whether day dreaming, talking on mobiles, listening to walkmans etc. if this experience keeps you alert and stops you being a victim in the future, the toerag may have, unwittingly, done you a service.

my mum was in a shop, browsing, when she felt a tug on her shoulder. she turned around to find a young woman elbow deep in her handbag! cheeky mare just said sorry, and sauntered out :rant: hence, i dont have a bag! if it wont fit in my front jeans pocket, i dont need it!

sounds a bit strange, but if you take note of everything around you, you learn to spot trouble makers and their tricks, and see undercover police. if youre in an empty path, and you get asked the time, dont look at your watch! just say you dont have a clue. in the second it would take to glance down at your wrist, the person can use the distraction to pull a knife, or snatch your bag. nice world we live in, huh? nina may sound extreme, but i live about half hour from her, and there is nothing she could say that is untrue last i heard, slough area is the 5th most violent town in the uk. put in on a scale of crimes per population, we are worse than london. there are at least 6 drug dealers on my street alone. i've known 2 murder victims, of 1 i knew the killer on top of a murderer, who i used to drink with down the pub. i got battered by his victims friends sister in the town centre. 7 people i grew up with died of drug overdoses. i'm only 23. imagine growing up in that mess

take your experience and use it positively.

 

[05whippet]

Oh my God!

Am I glad I live over here! We don't really have much violence or have to worry about being approached when out as we have our own policing system here.............it's called the paramilitaries! 8) If the police do nothing then these guys do and they don't mess around.

After all it is very hard to walk anywhere to nick someone's dog with no knees! (w00t)

Tina don't let the b*****ds grind you down!