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Where do I learn to do pinchy flicks and why was I never taught how to do them and why have I never heard of them until today and why am I so thick that I never noticed. :wacko: :wacko: :blink:

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[kris]

jenny you should go on the telly youre so funny! :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[wilfred]

I do it, exactly as Dawn has outlined it!!! (But not on purpose :- " )

 

[doris]

I i never let him jump on the table as i`ve heard of some dogs that have overshot and landed badly on the floor   

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that's useful to know, I was always impressed when I see dogs jumping up themselves

 

[EJW]

With the Whippets I lift them under the chest so that the front legs (hopefully) fall naturally into the right position.

Then I adjust the back legs.

Gracie loves showing & puts her front feet on the table ready to go up.

Evie adopts a martyred expression & waits to be lifted!

If they lean I've found that gently pushing them in the direction that they are leaning usually makes them straighten up.

Georgie (IG) stands beautifully at home. However she is new to showing & won't stand at all in the ring yet because she wants to pounce on the Iggy in front of her & play (w00t) :lol:

So next week wee Georgie is going to ringcraft

 

[JAX]

As regards lifting the dogs on the table ,or floor for that matter , by placing your hand /arm under the dogs tummy its very easy to make the dog `hunch up ` and shorten , The best way of avoiding this is to put arms around the outside of both back and front legs and pick up from there :cheers:

I too place front first and then the rear , but Libbee will lean forward on the table which makes her shape look very unbalanced Even though she jumps onto the table ( and I didnt teach her to do it , the first time she did it was last summer when she jumped on the stewards table much to my and their surprise ) I know it could be dangerous , but having a `dicky ` back it does come in handy :huggles: I often stand Libbee on the floor for the judge to go over :blink:

 

[fable]

If I pick Lily up I use the same method as Jax - it's how you carry lambs. Lily usually jumps on the table by herself - never thought about it collapsing (w00t)

Val

 

[beaker]

i start puppies off by encouraging them to rest their head in my hand and stay still for a treat,getting them used to doing this in both hands with me standing in front and then moving to the side

then they progress to walking foward into my open hand and resting their head,

from here i can gently shift their weight left or right so as to get them to stand naturally in front with out much need for interference and adjustment of the legs,i also find this makes the pup feel more secure and encourages it to face foward

with their head resting in my right hand i glide my left hand in one continuous motion along the back and down the outside of the left leg to the hock to adjust the stance of the rear left leg by sliding it rather than picking up and placing, i find this motion coupled with plenty of practice helps avoid the pup feeling as though it's legs are being grabbed at :thumbsup:

i then move back, swap hands and repeat on the other side. :thumbsup:

it's not as complicated as it sounds and doing this in a relaxed and calm way promotes steadyness in pups )

well it does with most of mine

 

[doris]

it's not as complicated as it sounds and doing this in a relaxed and calm way promotes steadyness in pups  )

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great description, thanks :thumbsup:

 

[oxana]

Even though she jumps onto the table ( and I didnt teach her to do it , the first time she did it was last summer when she jumped on the stewards table much to my and their surprise  ) I know it could be dangerous , but having a `dicky ` back it does come in handy  :huggles: I often stand Libbee on the floor for the judge to go over  :blink:

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Sid used to enjoy jumping up on ANY table at a show it was just something he used to do he was never taught but i stopped him doing it earlier this year when he fell off a small table at the Whippet Champ show.

 

[bardmand]

it's not as complicated as it sounds and doing this in a relaxed and calm way promotes steadyness in pups  )
well it does with most of mine 

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Sounds very much like the way I stack my Gullet - only it has been a trial-and-error run rather than structured training the way you seem to do it. Gullet strongly objects to being handled too much (probably because I find so incredibly boring to practice stacking), but gently easing her into a semi-proper stand the way you describe is at least attainable sometimes.

 

[parnew]

I didn't think that a little pic of a baby could stir up the English showies so much but it's great to hear all of the little ways that people use to stack their dogs. I think that this all sounds very good and what a great topic, Thanks Jax. :thumbsup: Well we've all read and had a say, so lets see some of these dogs stacked. , I'd like to see some pic's of the dog's that belong to the posters on the thread. I'm sure that it's not only us aussies that stack a bit off centre.

 

[Seraphina]

I also lift my dogs in the "lamb" way. I then position her front feet on the edge of the table by lifting her from the sholders and try to get her elbow under her wither. Then I move her rear legs into position. Some of mine do not like to have their legs pulled backwards, so I move them from underneath (one leg at time) from the stifle. If they would pull back i use bait to make them lean forward.

 

[parnew]

Yes Lida, I like to place the front this same way then the rear I place the hocks into the vertical position and then move to the front of the dog and bait them. I was told by an older handler to set them up quick so the judge gets to see the side profile for a longer time. With babies they tend to move around on the table and judges move up quickly and start looking over them, where as judges like to see the out line of the older dogs so the quicker you set them up the better. :thumbsup:

 

[Millie]

When I'm showing Sparky,
First administer Rescue Remedy to myself, enter ring, try to find kind person to stand next to, (preferably Helen (Dolly)), stack Sparks, who stands beautifully until judge looks at him and he lies down, haul him up, judge now passed by and Sparky stands beautifully again.  We all move round, Sparky sticks his nose up the bum of the dog in front just as the the judge looks at him, come to a halt, Sparky who is becoming enamoured with the dog in front tries to mount it, haul him off.  Wait our turn for individual inspection, catch eye of OH who gives me his 'I wouldn't change places with you for all the tea in china look'.  Our turn next, Sparky jumps on table without being asked, almost overshoots and comes to a halt like a collie doing agility, haul him up again.  Stand for judge, not bad, Sparky moves two of his feet, but I leave it, judge examines him and is given a kiss usually, but sometimes an ear wash.  Sparky gets fed up and gets off table, profuse apologies to surprised judge who says 'oh well he is a running breed' .  Off we go triangle and once up and down, anyone want to challenge us for the fastest triangle and once up and down, Sparky finishes with his party trick, and the more colourful ties are the best ones to grab for (Ask Terry Thorn) . Back to the line, will we short-listed ?, will we be looked at ?, will we be reported to the Kennel Club ?, class over, back to OH, who very cleverly shows great sympathy and support.

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This sound so familiar ! (w00t)

But when Sophie does stand for two seconds she can look like this

 

[JAX]

Very nice Wendy , :wub: what a shame you couldnt bring her when I judged Fancy coming into season

 

[Crystal]

Tizzy and Zola very calm and will stand for pure enjoyment!! always do front end first after lifting them onto the table by cradling them.

Now Tipsy - do the Rescue Remedy trick for both of us cradle her up on to the table put her front feet in place and then back end she stands until the judge approaches then leans into me I move and she leans further to me, I try to turn her round she gets worse and I go pink and wish I hadn't entered!! BUT she is getting better last 2 weeks at ringcraft she hasn't folded on the table -just need to put some weight on her and I've entered her for a show in December (w00t)

 

[Millie]

Very nice Wendy , :wub:   what a shame you couldnt bring her when I judged    Fancy coming into season 

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I know Jax............ If she'd just held on 3 more weeks, she would have made all the shows she was entered at............... she needs the practice !!! (w00t)

 

[quintessence]

Sophie :wub: :wub: :wub:

 

[whippynit]

Interesting topic espesh for us newbies :thumbsup:   I was shown to arrange front end first as most of you have described and then back end.
Ive noticed some people quickly run their fingers along the spine or do little 'pinchy flicks' ( for want of a better word! (w00t) ) on the croup area - why is this?  :blink:

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Pinchy flicks (w00t) Too much arch to topline. Pinchy flicks before moving, BAD tail, well spotted :thumbsup: If you are thinking of a sire to use always look at it being shown not just stacked and look out for those pinchy flicks :- "

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:thumbsup: thanks! now i know! :cheers: