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"Many probably dare not step out of line and say they are anti which is a shame IMO as a true picture is not built up but there you go...plenty seem to have read this thread but very few posted an opinion..."

I have an opinion.

Live and let live. No one person can be the same, no one culture can be the same etc etc

Rural communities rely on the local hunt for pest control and a social network. It certainly isn't an "elite" group. There is more to hunting than killing a fox.

I don't agree with stag hunting - there is no need.

I keep my own horses and point to point race them. Without hunting there would have been no National Hunt Racing!! Even today, hunts run the point to points where alot of tomorrow's racing "stars" learn their trade. These horses have to be hunted in order to qualify to race in point to points. It is about educating the horse.

Thousands of thoroughbreds don't even make it to the race track in this country alone. They are injured or killed in training or just don't make the grade. The horses bred for racing are sadly a disposable commodity

I look after all my animals myself. They have the best that my money can buy. I want them to have a quality of life that is second to none and that means that my whippets can chase as many rabbits as they wish, my horses can go hunting (which they love - it's the next best thing to running with a herd in the wild for them :thumbsup: ) and my cats should be able to roam around outside when they wish without fear of being taken by a fox (I keep them in at night for this reason).

Everyone to their own, IMO. But let's try to understand other's points of view and remember that one bad apple doesn't spoil the whole bunch!!!

Thank you :thumbsup:

 

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Im pro Hunting & would like to believe we will one day have the right to hunt again in the UK IMO the Hunting act was an illegal act forced through by the labour party.

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labour party of the 70s the army drove the green goddess fire engines inflation was through the roof When i was a child the labour party brought this once great nation to its knees with strikes any one in their 40s-50s will remember power cuts/postal strikes/bread strikes/water strikes/coal strikes/nurse strikes/firemen strikes/Ambulance Strikes/sitting eating meals cooked on camping stoves around candles we could not even bury our dead

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Our sons are in the middle east fighting for what ? OIL nothing[ more IMO but in the name of freedom :lol: :lol: get real people & stop seeing the labour party through rose coloured glasses.

Our great nation is flooded with imagrants some of who plot against us from within when our own people live in cardboard cities & have no work is this right ?.

Our pensioners who have fought wars on our behalf get very little from this country yet their siblings gave their lives for what ? was it not freedom ?

I was there when the Agruculture Minister Hillary Benn compared hare coursing with bear baiting on wednesday he did not like hare coursing but thought rabbit control with ferrets/whippets/guns/nets/snares was fine all i can say is what a muppet talk about the sheep needing a shepard.

As you will know Dave the horse industry is no better than the greyhound industry regarding surplus/injured/substandard stock they are PTS or sent to Europe to be eaten.

WHAT THIS COUNTRY REALY NEEDS IS A LEADER WHO WILL LEAD FROM THE FRONT TAKE THE SH*T FROM THE REST OF THE WORLD ON THE CHIN & MAKE US A GREAT NATION AGAIN :thumbsup:

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back to the 70s ted heath forgot about him took us into europe put us in the shit callaghan carried on there all as bad as each other .strikes were great got of school to watch leeds v liverpool fa cup early kickoff couldnt use floodlights (w00t) 80s high inflation,strikes ,social services cut ,oap homes shut ,pension funds nicked ,kids school milk stopped.good old maggie.theres plenty of people these days that choose to be out of work ,the thought of it makes them go weak at the knees .get out on the fens and see how many immgrants are picking our food out of the fields.because the locals wont get of their arses to work ask the farmers what they think .so we do need some.strong parenting is needed.conscript for those that dont want to work . hands are tide by to many european laws.lets all go to australia (w00t)

 

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just a quick question.when was the last time you heard cameron or one of the shadow cabinet say they were going to repeal the act .and they will make it part of their election campaign at the next election. or isnt it a vote winner.

 

[Suzycbee]

Im pro Hunting & would like to believe we will one day have the right to hunt again in the UK IMO the Hunting act was an illegal act forced through by the labour party.
When i was a child the labour party brought this once great nation to its knees with strikes any one in their 40s-50s will remember power cuts/postal strikes/bread strikes/water strikes/coal strikes/nurse strikes/firemen strikes/Ambulance Strikes/sitting eating meals cooked on camping stoves around candles we could not even bury our dead   due to strikes this was the great labour party of the 70s the army drove the green goddess fire engines inflation was through the roof

Our sons are in the middle east fighting for what ? OIL nothing more IMO but in the name of freedom  :lol:   :lol: get real people & stop seeing the labour party through rose coloured glasses.

Our great nation is flooded with imagrants some of who plot against us from within when our own people live in cardboard cities & have no work is this right ?.

Our pensioners who have fought wars on our behalf get very little from this country yet their siblings gave their lives for what ? was it not freedom ?

I was there when the Agruculture Minister Hillary Benn compared hare coursing with bear baiting on wednesday he did not like hare coursing but thought rabbit control with ferrets/whippets/guns/nets/snares was fine all i can say is what a muppet talk about the sheep needing a shepard.

As you will know Dave the horse industry is no better than the greyhound industry regarding surplus/injured/substandard stock they are PTS or sent to Europe to be eaten.

WHAT THIS COUNTRY REALY NEEDS IS A LEADER WHO WILL LEAD FROM THE FRONT TAKE THE SH*T FROM THE REST OF THE WORLD ON THE CHIN & MAKE US A GREAT NATION AGAIN :thumbsup:

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The Hunting Bill was not forced through by the labour party. It was a cross party vote, both liberals and conservatives voted for a ban. In total there were 8 votes in the Commons.

 

[Suzycbee]

"Many probably dare not step out of line and say they are anti which is a shame IMO as a true picture is not built up but there you go...plenty seem to have read this thread but very few posted an opinion..."
I have an opinion.

Live and let live.  No one person can be the same, no one culture can be the same etc etc

Rural communities rely on the local hunt for pest control and a social network. It certainly isn't an "elite" group.  There is more to hunting than killing a fox.

I don't agree with stag hunting - there is no need.

I keep my own horses and point to point race them.  Without hunting there would have been no National Hunt Racing!! Even today, hunts run the point to points where alot of tomorrow's racing "stars" learn their trade.  These horses have to be hunted in order to qualify to race in point to points.  It is about educating the horse.

Thousands of thoroughbreds don't even make it to the race track in this country alone.  They are injured or killed in training or just don't make the grade.  The horses bred for racing are sadly a disposable commodity

I look after all my animals myself.  They have the best that my money can buy.  I want them to have a quality of life that is second to none and that means that my whippets can chase as many rabbits as they wish, my horses can go hunting (which they love - it's the next best thing to running with a herd in the wild for them :thumbsup: ) and my cats should be able to roam around outside when they wish without fear of being taken by a fox (I keep them in at night for this reason).

Everyone to their own, IMO.  But let's try to understand other's points of view and remember that one bad apple doesn't spoil the whole bunch!!!

Thank you :thumbsup:

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Just set me wondering, if rural communities RELY on the hunt for their social network, what have they been doing for the last 3 years since the ban. Have their social lives disintegrated? How awful.

Cant understand how racehorses are described as a disposable commodity yet there is nothing wrong with treating a wild dog as a creature to be chased and abused at will. Scientific studies aplenty have been carried on on foxes as pests. If you kill one, another will take its place in that area. If foxes are truly should horrid, pestulent creatures and cause, as alleged, such untold problems to farmers etc, then lets get rid of them all, call in DFRA and gas the little bastards out of existence. That would sort 'em!

Anyway thats me finished with this one. I'm off to hug some bunnies, (w00t) Regards all have a nice weekend!!

 

[nigelmcfc]

The inclusive supposition of the phrase ''high on our agenda'' could mean it is high on mine and certain others' agenda or it could mean, as you have interpreted it, high on EVERYONE'S agenda.  Had I supposed it be high on everyone's agenda then that is what I would have said.  That is unlikely as it certainly is not high on NL's!
Having said that I entirely agree that everyone is entitled, and indeed should have, his or her own opinion.  My opinion is there is value in the traditions and practices handed down as part of this country's culture, many of which have been summarily dismissed my a political elite who have lost all moral right to govern.  And if they were not so busy stuffing up the economy they would be banning fishing, shooting, racing and all the rest.

But that’s just my opinion.

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If you have read the Burns Report of 1999 in which the Countryside Alliance were asked to state how many hounds were put down, and at what age, the answer was 3000 a year at the age of 6/7. This can be taken as a conservative estimate, anybody agree with healthy dogs at this age being put down as they are too old to keep up with the pack???

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You`ll be a member of that delightful organisation lacs then?? Animal welfare had nothing to do with the hunting act, it was labours bigoted biased view on hunting supported by their lefty mates at organisations like lacs and the like. We came face to face with a labour minister last week and his comments were pathetic, it helps if you have a knowledge of something you are criticising

Sad to hear that lacs are facing bankruptcy through lack of support :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

 

[nigelmcfc]

Hunting is part of our heritage and if it wasn't for the waterloo cup gambling on horses that get whipped to death would not exist.Big Sean.

so was mining and look what the tory b------s did to that. ruined communitys and lifes.  cost the country billions of pounds.wasted all the oil money .yes they will repeal the hunting ban notttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt.wake up and smell the champagne :lol: (they like it better than coffee)

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My sentiments exactly the tories dessimated the mining and steel industry around here and we were told to get on with it. Communites were destroyed and short term employment drafted in and only lasted as long as the government grants that were handed out like confetti to fat cats getting fatter. We didnt matter we were just working class scum - like it or lump it!! So whats so different with country life? Why are they so special?

State funeral for Thatcher - couldnt give a monkeys chuff what they do with her but it'll be a day of celebration in this household I can tell ya!!!

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I've got the champers on ice for when the bitch expires, cant wait

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Attitudes like yours stink Mrs Thatcher along with Winston Churchill are/were both Conservatives and are both the greatest leaders this country has ever seen. They had backbone and courage, something which the lefty shower that have attempted to govern this country for the last 10 years are completely without. labours legacy - millions of immigrants a lawless society where violence goes unpunished ,an economy that has been mortgaged to the hilt and our national reserves squandered but hey we banned hunting, we showed the bastards , can`t remember which labour prat said it, but he reckoned the hunting act going through was his proudest achievement in politics (w00t) never mind about a bankrupt country , kids who can`t read or write or thousands of eastern europeans swamping the country and it`s resources . Like we said last week, when , not if David C gets in the Tories will look after the hunting and rural communities instead of trying to ethnically cleanse them like labour have done.

Anyone who is a member of a coursing club or has an interest in field sports should hang their head in shame if they vote labour :rant:

 

[nigelmcfc]

just a quick question.when was the last time you heard cameron or one of the shadow cabinet say they were going to repeal the act .and they will  make it part of their election campaign at the next election. or isnt it a vote winner.

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I am replying on behalf of David Cameron to thank you for your interest in Cameron Direct. I am extremely sorry for the delay in my reply.

On hunting, David Cameron believes it is clear that the current anti-hunting legislation is not working – even in its own terms and is making a mockery of the law. We entered the last election promising a free vote to reverse the ban, on a Government Bill in Government time, and David Cameron continues to support that stance.

Thank you, once again, for your question about this issue. If you would like to get in touch with David Cameron in the future, you can contact him at camerond@parliament.uk<mailto:camerond@parliament.uk>

Yours sincerely,

Alice Sheffield │ Cameron Direct │CCHQ

www.conservatives.com<http://www.conservatives.com>

Show`s how much you know

 

[Trish]

i wont be voting for them and i wont hang my head in shame and thats a fact.

 

[nigelmcfc]

i wont be voting for them and i wont hang my head in shame and thats a fact.

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Funny how members of a coursing club want to vote for a party that has taken real coursing away from them.I thought all true coursers would be fighting for the repeal??

 

[Trish]

i wont be voting for them and i wont hang my head in shame and thats a fact.

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Funny how members of a coursing club want to vote for a party that has taken real coursing away from them.I thought all true coursers would be fighting for the repeal??

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who said i will vote labour???

plus voting on a party isnt just about hunting,but the good of the country.

 

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i wont be voting for them and i wont hang my head in shame and thats a fact.

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Funny how members of a coursing club want to vote for a party that has taken real coursing away from them.I thought all true coursers would be fighting for the repeal??

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theres more to life than coursing ,more impotrtant things to put your vote to than one thing .cameron is sitting on the fence and doesnt have the backbone to say yes they will put it in their manifesto.a free vote having to overturn 184 majority including tories .i pay my taxes and the most important thing for the next goverment which ever party is to get all scroungers and benefit fraudsters off the benefits system .as for the greatest leaders churchill yes even though he b------s up in the 1st ww what about disraeli and pit gladstone thatcher no .what about all the miners whippets and greyhounds lurchers that were pts abandoned because they couldnt afford to keep them. :rant:

 

[controversial]

just a quick question.when was the last time you heard cameron or one of the shadow cabinet say they were going to repeal the act .and they will   make it part of their election campaign at the next election. or isnt it a vote winner.

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I am replying on behalf of David Cameron to thank you for your interest in Cameron Direct. I am extremely sorry for the delay in my reply.

On hunting, David Cameron believes it is clear that the current anti-hunting legislation is not working – even in its own terms and is making a mockery of the law. We entered the last election promising a free vote to reverse the ban, on a Government Bill in Government time, and David Cameron continues to support that stance.

Thank you, once again, for your question about this issue. If you would like to get in touch with David Cameron in the future, you can contact him at camerond@parliament.uk<mailto:camerond@parliament.uk>

Yours sincerely,

Alice Sheffield │ Cameron Direct │CCHQ

www.conservatives.com<http://www.conservatives.com>

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must have missed this on the telly,should have known to look on a dc website.really well publicised,general public will know all about it (w00t) lets see him get of the fence onto the bbc news and annouce he is personally going to put it into his manifesto.like maggie would do o

 

[nigelmcfc]

The Hunting Act will be history within a couple of years alongside this joke of a government , brown ,the most unpopular pm ever- Even more unpopular than michael foot and he was a joke :- " No wonder Maggie got in so easy 2nd time

I doubt very much that any miners put their dogs to sleep because of the strike. Real dog men would have been out filling the pot with them , not chasing carrier bags

That`s all history now, what matters is the future, does anyone want 4 more years of the shower that are in now , even more frightening is that other lefty prat milliband taking over , how can you take a man who looks like Mr Bean seriously??

 

[Pennymeadow Whippets]

I doubt very much that any miners put their dogs to sleep because of the strike. Real dog men would have been out filling the pot with them , not chasing carrier bags

:thumbsup: Doing what the dogs were intended for :thumbsup:

 

[jinx and rubys mum]

The MP from Cumbria is a Tory and he was at the Lowther show on his buggy talking to all the huntsmen and women assuring them it was on his agenda for his constituants to try to bring the hunting ban to the forefront with his party.

It is on camera at the show and he made a speech to that effect too

So some of the Tory party are backing up their beliefs for their wards