Is K9 Partly Too Fault?

[ahorsnall]

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i was just wondering were the term non pedigree was started?i mean to me they was bred for generations to race i know people be saying they was bred from terriers etc but in the making of all breeds other breeds was used.then from the seventys i know ghd crossing was allowed too but since both actually had pedigrees niether are none peds. in race horses arabs was crossed into race horses never was they called none peds as both had pedigrees.so really before k9 id never heard of non pedigree whippet racing so i think it should have been none kc reg whippet racing.what do you all think?

 

[halloween]

The reason they are called non peds is because they aren't recognised by the K.C.

 

[ahorsnall]

The reason they are called non peds is because they aren't recognised by the K.C.

yes thats my point should be none kc reg they have got pedigrees

 

[halloween]

I think you are "nit picking" as are a few others on this site. It doesn't matter what they are called. I only answered your question.

 

[ahorsnall]

im not nit picking at all.its the term non pedigree means a mongrel not a racing animal with umpteen generation of pedigree parentage

 

[Trojan]

Don't like agreeing with you Chris but yes i also think that 'non ped' is actually the wrong teminology and as added to the thought that no matter what the dogs are bred from they are able to be classifed as non ped racers!!! If the parentage can be identified and traced back then a 'pedigree' is there so in fact not 'non peds' at all Many of the racing whippets also were kennel club registered in the early days of racing too and i'm not saying just at what we now call 'pedi clubs'. Were some of the early bwra racing champs actually kc reg???? I do believe that the term non ped may have gone a little way to the beliefs that any type can be bred into racing dogs (as i personally say dogs as many to me are not whippets) maybe in appearance kind of

 

[tony warren]

HOLD TIGHT HERE WE GO AGAIN :-

 

[Trojan]

HOLD TIGHT HERE WE GO AGAIN :-

 

[Fleesh]

Perhaps it was considered more convenient to say "Non-ped racing whippet" than "Non-KC-registered racing whippet"

After all we say Hoover when we mean Vacum Cleaner

 

[meddling]

The reason they are called non peds is because they aren't recognised by the K.C.

yes thats my point should be none kc reg they have got pedigrees

So has the scruffy little mongrel down the road...just not a very pure bred one

 

[ahorsnall]

Don't like agreeing with you Chris but yes i also think that 'non ped' is actually the wrong teminology and as added to the thought that no matter what the dogs are bred from they are able to be classifed as non ped racers!!! If the parentage can be identified and traced back then a 'pedigree' is there so in fact not 'non peds' at all Many of the racing whippets also were kennel club registered in the early days of racing too and i'm not saying just at what we now call 'pedi clubs'. Were some of the early bwra racing champs actually kc reg???? I do believe that the term non ped may have gone a little way to the beliefs that any type can be bred into racing dogs (as i personally say dogs as many to me are not whippets) maybe in appearance kind of

that was my point i ment not nit picking but people thinking any dog with long legs is a non ped racing whippet which as caused troble often in the past. so i just wanted to know who decide the site should be called non ped thats all.if asking a ? is trouble causing i must be giulty

 

[tony warren]

IVE GOT BLUE BLOOD BUT DONT LIKE TO BE CALLED PRINCE L0L :clown:

 

[Trojan]

The reason they are called non peds is because they aren't recognised by the K.C.

yes thats my point should be none kc reg they have got pedigrees

So has the scruffy little mongrel down the road...just not a very pure bred one

Agree with you there too parentage traced 'pedigree' can be made out but wouldn't be called a pedigree of a specific breed or type - i think i know what i mean lol

 

[milly]

Should we call it Grew racing? :-

 

[peppermint lady]

well if a whippet has no pedigree it is a "non ped" i cant see why being called that would upset anyone ??? :unsure: :unsure: and id heard the term "non ped" many years ago, long before K9 was ever up and running

 

[tony warren]

WOULD NOT WORRY CHRIS SO LONG AS YOUR HAPPY WITH YOUR DOGS WHO CARE,S WHAT THEY WANT TO CALL THEM SO LONG AS THERE DOING THE JOB

 

[Trojan]

well if a whippet has no pedigree it is a "non ped" i cant see why being called that would upset anyone ??? :unsure: :unsure: and id heard the term "non ped" many years ago, long before K9 was ever up and running

Thats a valid point if it had no pedigree it would be a non ped but almost ALL have pedigrees. I know i personally make copies of all my racing whippets pedigrees and when i have bred a litter a pedigree goes away along with the puppy. You too are right i dare say, the term has been used for some years but maybe in the light of how whippets have been bred in the recent years some people feel we are loosing sight of what a 'whippet' is. (Please I know we have been here before what constitutes a whippet but this is where the confusion is i believe we used to race whippets and now we race dogs of a similar shape and size to either a whippet or greyhound)............. I feel i may regret saying what i think but it doesn't matter i'm thick skinned or thick )

 

[liverpoolmitch]

High I'm new to Whippets but find this post quite intresting so be kind if I'm talking a load of rubbish Is it anything to do that you can substantiate a pedigree Whippet if its KC reg through the Kennel club but that would be difficult to prove how accurate with a none pedigree and in some cases not all, but in someyou might have to take it at face value that the peds correct and there has'nt been a out cross in its makeup somewhere in its breeding, As i say I'm still learning about these great little dogs and if it does the Job what the hell

 

[ahorsnall]

High I'm new to Whippets but find this post quite intresting so be kind if I'm talking a load of rubbish Is it anything to do that you can substantiate a pedigree Whippet if its KC reg through the Kennel club but that would be difficult to prove how accurate with a none pedigree and in some cases not all, but in someyou might have to take it at face value that the peds correct and there has'nt been a out cross in its makeup somewhere in its breeding, As i say I'm still learning about these great little dogs and if it does the Job what the hell

good point but even a kc ped is only as accurate as the people reg the pups?

 

[Vicky]

Maybe we should re-name the forum "Original Whippet" as afterall, that is what they are!

Don't think k9 is where i first heard the phrase non pedigree but admit it is misleading to newcomers and gives the impression their parentage isn't traceable when we all know it is, they are just not kc registered. Confusion lies between the word "Pedigree" and "KC Registered", Jacqui's whippets are what i'd call pedigree yet they don't have KC papers and wouldn't be competative against our "non peds".