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Now look here back-slappers! :- " I've been in the breed for nearly

a good few many years - AND have already won a CC and bred a few Championship Show winners

When can I do tickets? 8)

Do I have to join a club or become a Kennel Club member - or is being a club committee member the better route?

Basil

 

[JAX]

Well , You have to meet quite a lot of set criteria before you can award CCs im afraid

Every breed club has different sets I believe Without getting the Midland whippet criteria out ( cos its filed upstairs ) I think its judged something like 70-100 classes ( of whippets obviously ) at least 250 dogs , been in the breed 10 years plus ( might be more ) at least 2 club shows . At least 4 dogs owned and /or bred to have gained their Stud Book Number . then there are the seminars . KC regs and regulation certificates , plus the one on Conformation , Stewarding certificate etc.

and of course you have to wait to be asked :- " When I was asked to give my first set of CCs the sec asked what I had done and when I told him , he said ` Why haven't you given CCs before ? `Cos Ive never been asked `was my reply . o I think its really bad form to tout for CCs .

I was asked to give CCs For the midland whippet club BEFORE I was on the committee being a member of the KC wont help , but being an active and supporting member of your local whippet club will not go against you .

So many people like going to shows week after week but very few are prepared to put anything back in , How do you think these shows are run and organised , yes by folk being prepared to put time ,energy and yes some of their own money into running these show for you, the exhibitors OK off my soap box now :cheers:

I think I had my first judging appointment in 1986 and gave my first CC about 10 years later . which actually was pretty fast going . :huggles:

 

[kris]

i always thought you didnt ask,someone asked you. :- "

 

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Well , You have to meet quite a lot of set criteria before you can award CCs im afraid
Every breed club has different sets I believe  Without getting the Midland whippet criteria out ( cos its filed upstairs ) I think its judged something  like 70-100 classes ( of whippets obviously ) at least 250 dogs , been in the breed 10 years plus ( might be more ) at least 2 club shows . At least 4 dogs owned and /or bred to have gained their Stud Book Number . then there are the seminars . KC regs and regulation certificates , plus the one on Conformation , Stewarding certificate etc.

and of course you have to wait to be asked  :- "  When I was asked to give my first set of CCs the sec asked what I had done and when I told him , he said ` Why haven't you given CCs before ? `Cos Ive never been asked `was my reply . o   I think its really bad form to tout for CCs .

I was asked to give CCs For  the midland whippet club BEFORE I was on the committee  being a member of the KC wont help  , but being an active and supporting member of your local whippet club will not go against you .

So many people like going to shows week after week but very few are prepared to put anything back in , How do you think these shows are run and organised  , yes by folk being prepared to put time ,energy and yes some of their own money into running these show for you, the exhibitors   OK off my soap box now  :cheers:

I think I had my first judging appointment in 1986 and gave my first CC about 10 years later . which actually was pretty fast going .  :huggles:

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[JAX]

i always thought you didnt ask,someone asked you. :- "

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Yes , thats what I said :cheers:

What I didnt mention was that you are also assesed by a Champ show judge when judging at an open show ( when you are being considerd for CC s that is ), and your first time giving CCs is also assessd . Of course your name might be put forward to give CCs , but that dosnt mean you will get passed to do it

If any of you would like to get on the Midland Whippet judging list ( yes everyone has to start some where ) PM me and I will give you my address to send your CV to . WE need to know how many years in whippets and that sort of thing ( maybe you judge other breeds to a high level )

 

[Mark Roberts]

Well , You have to meet quite a lot of set criteria before you can award CCs im afraid
Every breed club has different sets I believe Without getting the Midland whippet criteria out ( cos its filed upstairs ) I think its judged something like 70-100 classes ( of whippets obviously ) at least 250 dogs , been in the breed 10 years plus ( might be more ) at least 2 club shows . At least 4 dogs owned and /or bred to have gained their Stud Book Number . then there are the seminars . KC regs and regulation certificates , plus the one on Conformation , Stewarding certificate etc.

and of course you have to wait to be asked  When I was asked to give my first set of CCs the sec asked what I had done and when I told him , he said ` Why haven't you given CCs before ? `Cos Ive never been asked `was my reply .  I think its really bad form to tout for CCs .

I was asked to give CCs For the midland whippet club BEFORE I was on the committee  being a member of the KC wont help  , but being an active and supporting member of your local whippet club will not go against you .

So many people like going to shows week after week but very few are prepared to put anything back in , How do you think these shows are run and organised  , yes by folk being prepared to put time ,energy and yes some of their own money into running these show for you, the exhibitors  OK off my soap box now 

I think I had my first judging appointment in 1986 and gave my first CC about 10 years later . which actually was pretty fast going . 

A very good answer. :thumbsup: (i'm learning by the day :thumbsup: )

 

[doris]

So many people like going to shows week after week but very few are prepared to put anything back in , How do you think these shows are run and organised  , yes by folk being prepared to put time ,energy and yes some of their own money into running these show for you, the exhibitors   OK off my soap box now  :cheers:

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very good JAX :thumbsup: :lol:

 

[Karen]

I think this may be our phantom stirrer. Im sorry if its a real question but it sounds so unlike a question a UK Whippet shower would ask.

Anyway Jax has told it like it is in the UK (some club lists are much harder to get on than Midland Whippet) so best get out there and contribute. :thumbsup:

 

[aslan]

Now look here back-slappers!  :- "

Are you implying that people on k9 are nice to each other? And that you don't think that's a good thing?

I suggest if you don't like that approach then please go somewhere else.

 

[Cartman]

Now look here back-slappers!  :- "

Are you implying that people on k9 are nice to each other? And that you don't think that's a good thing?

I suggest if you don't like that approach then please go somewhere else.

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I thought a "back slapper" was like a "shirt lifter".

 

[aslan]

I wasn't sure what he meant - but I decided I would take it to mean that we all just slap each other on the back all the time - you know, as in "well done mate".

But he hasn't answered my question anyhow.

 

[JAX]

I wasn't sure what he meant - but I decided I would take it to mean that we all just slap each other on the back all the time - you know, as in "well done mate".
But he hasn't answered my question anyhow.

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How very rude (w00t)

 

[echo]

as you can see Im new to this site and would also like to ask a few questions.

Am I right in thinking then that you do not have to have had any champions yourself to be able to award this to other whippets.

And to make a contribution to the breed you have to be on a committee? I would think that breeding quality would be more beneficial to the breed.

 

[JAX]

Now you ARE a wind up merchant arnt you (w00t) and Im not even going to respond to that reply

 

[mikadene]

Now look here back-slappers!  :- "  I've been in the breed for nearlya good few many years - AND have already won a CC and bred a few Championship Show winners   

When can I do tickets?  8)

Do I have to join a club or become a Kennel Club member - or is being a club committee member the better route? 

Basil

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Dear Basil,

It is getting ni impossible to give tickets these days. The KC has seen to that along with the older members of Judges. They like to keep Judging and keep the younger ones out. I have been Breeding GSD's for about 38 yrs done all the seminars and judged the ammount of dogs and classes and bred some nice Champions and Stud book Numbers, I used to judge all breeds befor the KC stopped me when the ownership of dogs you want to judge came in. I still haven;t been asked to do tickets., and I don't think I will. I am not particulary interested anyway. The ammount of bad sportsmanship these days is so bad the judge will need Body Armour soon lol. Just Enjoy your days out and forget the judging. Every show I have judged I have donated £100 towards prize money to put something back. Yet the last club show I did The comments round the ring were just disgusting so no more I say.

Regards

Mike

 

[echo]

Now you ARE a wind up merchant arnt you  (w00t) and Im not even going to respond to that reply 

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Valid questions, noone HAS to reply to the questions.

not sure why this would make me a Wind up merchant

 

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I think this may be our phantom stirrer.  Im sorry if its a real question but it sounds so unlike a question a UK Whippet shower would ask.
Anyway Jax has told it like it is in the UK (some club lists are much harder to get on than Midland Whippet) so best get out there and contribute. :thumbsup:

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Sorry Karen, I'm no phantom stirrer and I'm NOT actually looking to do - nor am I wanting to ASK to - 'do' tickets. I have the 20 years experience, won ONE CC and bred a few Ch show winners, been to lectures, talks, judge-ins etc.

I believe MYSELF that I could do with two or three Champions under my belt!

What do K9'ers think? :- "

Would any breeder/show person want to show their Champions under someone who has never OWNED or BRED a Champion. Perhaps you back-slappers who do squillions of posts don't think it matters?

What about the 592 silent majority who viewed this topic and just moved on?

Lord knows, next we shall be having CRUFTS judges who have never owned or bred a Champion!?!

I suppose it doesn't matter !?! :wacko:

Basil

 

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So many people like going to shows week after week but very few are prepared to put anything back in , How do you think these shows are run and organised  , yes by folk being prepared to put time ,energy and yes some of their own money into running these show for you, the exhibitors   OK off my soap box now  :cheers:

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very good JAX :thumbsup: :lol:

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A very good 'back-slap' reply Alison/Doris :clown:

Sounds like being a committee member might have some advantage.

 

[aslan]

Would any breeder/show person want to show their Champions under someone who has never OWNED or BRED a Champion. Perhaps you back-slappers who do squillions of posts don't think it matters?What about the 592 silent majority who viewed this topic and just moved on?

Lord knows, next we shall be having CRUFTS judges who have never owned or bred a Champion!?!

I suppose it doesn't matter !?! :wacko:

Basil

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On the other side of the coin there are some very good dogs out there that never get their title because the handler is considered 'a nobody'. Other dogs take CC's because of who's on the end of the lead.

I would much rather show my dogs under someone whom I believed to have a good knowledge of the breed and had never bred a champion than someone whom I knew to be a face judge but had bred 60 champions.

And I still don't like the insinuation that seems to go along with "back-slappers". I would much rather say "well done" or "good on you" to someone than berate/belittle or tell lies about them on a public forum. So in that case I guess I am a back-slapper.

 

[JAX]

I think this may be our phantom stirrer.  Im sorry if its a real question but it sounds so unlike a question a UK Whippet shower would ask.
Anyway Jax has told it like it is in the UK (some club lists are much harder to get on than Midland Whippet) so best get out there and contribute. :thumbsup:

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Sorry Karen, I'm no phantom stirrer and I'm NOT actually looking to do - nor am I wanting to ASK to - 'do' tickets. I have the 20 years experience, won ONE CC and bred a few Ch show winners, been to lectures, talks, judge-ins etc.

I believe MYSELF that I could do with two or three Champions under my belt!

What do K9'ers think? :- "

Would any breeder/show person want to show their Champions under someone who has never OWNED or BRED a Champion. Perhaps you back-slappers who do squillions of posts don't think it matters?

What about the 592 silent majority who viewed this topic and just moved on?

Lord knows, next we shall be having CRUFTS judges who have never owned or bred a Champion!?!

I suppose it doesn't matter !?! :wacko:

Basil

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That has already happened

As regards never having breed or owned a champion , not everyone breeds litter after litter in one year let alone over several years :- " like some ........... and some of us keep our dogs that dont `make the grade ` hence we are limited on what we show . dosnt mean me dont know a good dog when we see it , a very blinkered view in my opinion