Kennel Cough Vaccine

[dagsquall]

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I had to take Billie for her yearly boosters last week. She is good and doesn't flinch about the injection, however it is another story for the kennel cough drops. Over the years it went like that:

Year 1: looked surprised, sneezed, gave the eye to the vet

Year 2: Hid her nose under my armpit as soon in the surgery, wriggled a lot

Year 3: Had to be forcibly held in a corner of the surgery, took 3 tries to complete

Year 4: Could not hold her in the corner surgery, had to go for full sedation...

The dog is so distressed that i doubt she will let the vet touch her face for any other treatment, and her state of anxiety at the vet will not help. I am dreading next year. I mostly leave her at friends when on holiday but if I require emergency cover I may need to leave her at a kennel, so I have to get her the vaccine.

Do other owners have such a problem with the vaccine?

Apparently they do an injectable form of the kennel cough vaccine in Australia, does anybody know how come it is not accepted in the UK, and who can we lobby regarding the matter?

Thanks

Gael

 

[affieluver]

i dont really know gael but have you asked your vet to maybe try at home where she wont be so stressed poor girl have a hug from us :huggles:

 

[NickyVN]

Am unsure on the Australia one but our usual annual booster contains parainfluenza virus. It is the bordetella virus that has to go nasally, I think it has to go locally which is why it is like this. It may be that bordetella is not so prevalent in Australia. The cat bordetella virus vaccine also had to go nasally but think they have discontinued it now due to poor uptake. Why not ask your vet if you could give it maybe outside the surgery while they watch so they can certify it, your dog may be happier you giving it. Or explain to the kennels and see if they will accept a letter from the vet saying impossible to give, have known some kennels accept them in these cases and if all other dogs are vaccinated risks are lower.

 

[hely]

im afraid since gypsy had her kennel cough one...........she totally hates going, we had to carry her in there a few weeks ago just for her annual booster

she was desperately trying to get up on my lap and was shaking like a leaf........very very distressed..............i would not want to put her through it again and to be honest just because they have the booster it does not guarentee that they wont get kennel cough :unsure:

some kennels will have your dogs without it, but the one we normally use insist on it :unsure:

i dont even think the vet managed to get even a quarter of it into her

 

[Pamw]

my dog Rocket hate kennel cough so much half of it is wasted as he has a very sensitive nose as do all whippets and it is pure truama....

We have the dogs holiday in cornwall...and when family go abroad i stay at home...

so no kennel cough needed...

but on saying that my daughter who is 19 has houseminded three houses this summer where people did not want to put their animals in kennels etc...she loved the independance of being inthese homes and all the animals where happy...one person who has three dogs gave her 20 pounds a day... so good money can be earned from this...

 

[Macha]

I haven't heard of the injection, but one of my dogs was very difficult to control the second time I took him for the nose drop and vet recommended sedation in future. So last year I gave the dog the sedative tablets supplied by the vet ( and also got his nails clipped under sedation). I've been back to the vets with him a few times - mostly not for treatment, just accompanying other dogs, but once for booster injection needed for boarding kennel. He has been fine these other times.

Yes, the nose drops were for bordatella (if that's the correct spelling?)

 

[alfyn]

Personally,i wouldn't touch the kc vaccine with a barge pole,& i think more dogs end up with kc when they've had the vaccine than those that haven't!!!

Then again,i wouldn't give any of my dogs boosters either & haven't ever had any probs!!!

 

[hely]

Personally,i wouldn't touch the kc vaccine with a barge pole,& i think more dogs end up with kc when they've had the vaccine than those that haven't!!!
Then again,i wouldn't give any of my dogs boosters either & haven't ever had any probs!!!

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can i please ask why you dont give your their boosters

 

[alfyn]

can i please ask why you dont give your their boosters

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Back in the early 80,s when parvo first reared it's ugly head,my gsd's were in direct contact with it,never had a vaccine against it,& never contacted it.

A couple of years later,i had a litter & kept back a beautiful male puppy.I had him vaccinated which included the parvo vaccine at around 10 & 12 weeks old,& he then died of parvo a few weeks later

I had all my other dogs blood tested & they were all immune for life with the highest titre reading(4096) & none of them had been vaccinated :thumbsup:

Shortly after this,i had a new vet,& he told me that if you do the initial puppy vaccinations,there is absolutely no need to give boosters as your dogs will build up there own natural immunity,& i have worked on this principle ever since!

I can honestly say that i have never given boosters for the last 25 years & have never had an unhealthy dog.

I have occasionally had one of mine blood tested just to see what level of immunity they have,& they have always had enough to protect them :thumbsup:

I firmly believe that constantly giving boosters to dogs eventually drains thier immune system & ends up causing all sorts of nasty health issues

In fact there's been quite a few dogs that i've known of that have died shortly after a booster

 

[hely]

mmm, food for thought there.........thankyou alfyn :thumbsup:

 

[Strike Whippets]

Personally,i wouldn't touch the kc vaccine with a barge pole,& i think more dogs end up with kc when they've had the vaccine than those that haven't!!!
Then again,i wouldn't give any of my dogs boosters either & haven't ever had any probs!!!

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I'm in complete agreement with Debs .......I personally (after years of working with dogs) feel the kennel cough vaccines pointless :- " and often causes more problems than its worth....... I only have my pups puppy jabbed (after 12 weeks of age so their immune systems up and running by itself) .....then thats it ...... Just my personal opinion though

 

[alfyn]

I had to take Billie for her yearly boosters last week. She is good and doesn't flinch about the injection, however it is another story for the kennel cough drops. Over the years it went like that:
Year 1: looked surprised, sneezed, gave the eye to the vet

Year 2: Hid her nose under my armpit as soon in the surgery, wriggled a lot

Year 3: Had to be forcibly held in a corner of the surgery, took 3 tries to complete

Year 4: Could not hold her in the corner surgery, had to go for full sedation...

The dog is so distressed that i doubt she will let the vet touch her face for any other treatment, and her state of anxiety at the vet will not help. I am dreading next year. I mostly leave her at friends when on holiday but if I require emergency cover I may need to leave her at a kennel, so I have to get her the vaccine.

Most councils have changed the wording from MUST be boostered,to SHOULD be,so i would check out any kennel you might need to use in the future as you could use  homeopathic nosodes instead of putting your dog through cruel & unecessary torture!!

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[dagsquall]

I had to take Billie for her yearly boosters last week. She is good and doesn't flinch about the injection, however it is another story for the kennel cough drops. Over the years it went like that:
Year 1: looked surprised, sneezed, gave the eye to the vet

Year 2: Hid her nose under my armpit as soon in the surgery, wriggled a lot

Year 3: Had to be forcibly held in a corner of the surgery, took 3 tries to complete

Year 4: Could not hold her in the corner surgery, had to go for full sedation...

The dog is so distressed that i doubt she will let the vet touch her face for any other treatment, and her state of anxiety at the vet will not help. I am dreading next year. I mostly leave her at friends when on holiday but if I require emergency cover I may need to leave her at a kennel, so I have to get her the vaccine.

Most councils have changed the wording from MUST be boostered,to SHOULD be,so i would check out any kennel you might need to use in the future as you could use  homeopathic nosodes instead of putting your dog through cruel & unecessary torture!!

Hi Alfyn

That's really interesting, have you any record of kennel accepting such homeopathic protection and where do I find info about it?

Gael

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[alfyn]

Hi Gael, I know of a couple at least in my area that have accepted the nosodes for a few years now,so i'm sure if you ask around in your area you'll find somewhere .

You can get the nosodes from AINSWORTHS

Hope this helps