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I think true Lagunas are probably on the smaller side (Link is on ly 18 1/4); the Sooty Sam line dogs you see advertised so often can be a lot bigger (Sam was 23"), they usually don't have a lot of Laguna in them anyway. Ours was a giant in his litter, he's still only ended up at 20 1/4 (which is big enough for me though :- " :lol: )imperative said:I too have heard of this name and wondered are they bigger than other lines or is this a line just like barnesmore or cobyco centre stage? :blink: