Leather Halti

[Janet]

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Does anyone know where I can get a leather type halti? If I google this I keep getting horse sites or the ordinary halti's? Thanks

 

[jezza]

How about these http://www.dogmatic.org.uk/index1.html

I've never had one but have heard they are good - they also do pastel coloured leather which I think look quite nice

 

[Janimal]

I know this is changing the subject of the topic on the thread....but Id really like peoples thoughts on the Haltis please?

Im thinking of getting a couple for Oscar and Archie mainly as they can be pullers...thanks everyone.

 

[jezza]

I know this is changing the subject of the topic on the thread....but Id really like peoples thoughts on the Haltis please?Im thinking of getting a couple for Oscar and Archie mainly as they can be pullers...thanks everyone.

I tried haltis and gentle leaders for my 2. They didn't take to the haltis at all so I gave up on them straight away - also they didn't seem to fit right. The gentle leader was a winner for a while but then for some reason Lenny decided that he absolutely hated it and wouldn't go out in it anymore! So I gave up and didn't try any others but I'd be interested on peoples thoughts on the other brands - namely the dogmatic which I linked to earlier, and the gencon? I think I'd like to give head collars another go but with some being so expensive I don't know which to fork out for.

 

[FeeFee]

I'm not keen on haltis, I've found they can ride upwards into the dogs' eyes. Dogs can also back out of them fairly easily - I've heard some horror stories of dogs getting loose wearing them, so if you do use one make sure you either use a double-ended lead with one end on the halti and the other on a collar or harness, or use the extra strap you can buy which attaches the halti to the dog's collar.

I preferred the Gentle Leader, but to be honest didn't use it much as I got it for Taz when he first came and was a nightmare on the lead but he improved pretty quickly so we went back to a flat collar. I've heard very good reports of the Dogmatic but haven't used one so would be interested in ayone else's experience with it.

 

[AnnSa]

My girls all wear a figure of 8 head collar when we go down to the beach.

They are so excited on the walk down i couldn't take them all together

without them on. I dont have any problem with them and they are easy

to get on and off with one hand......which is useful when you have more

than one dog with you

 

[whippetmad]

I'm not keen on haltis, I've found they can ride upwards into the dogs' eyes. Dogs can also back out of them fairly easily - I've heard some horror stories of dogs getting loose wearing them, so if you do use one make sure you either use a double-ended lead with one end on the halti and the other on a collar or harness, or use the extra strap you can buy which attaches the halti to the dog's collar.
I preferred the Gentle Leader, but to be honest didn't use it much as I got it for Taz when he first came and was a nightmare on the lead but he improved pretty quickly so we went back to a flat collar. I've heard very good reports of the Dogmatic but haven't used one so would be interested in ayone else's experience with it.

I,m not that keen on them either,my you never had to used one,be intresting to see what others think :thumbsup:

 

[Janet]

Hi, thanks for the replies. With 5 boys and only 1 that doesn't pull I can't take them all out together anymore and also find that where they pull its making my back really sore (plus they all want to get any cat or squirrel that dares to walk in the same street as us :angry: ). I did use an ordinary halti for one of them sometime ago but it made him have a nose bleed so I stopped that, I then bought a gencon all-in-one which is really good and I may end up putting them on all of them but just wondered if the leather halti's would be more comfortable. AnnSa, I like the look of your figure of 8 headcollars they look quite simple - did they come from an internet site?

 

[AnnSa]

Yes a animal rescue site i will pm you the link in case im not allowed to put it on here :thumbsup:

 

[Janimal]

Thanks for the replies so far (shall I start a new thread or can I continue on here) :thumbsup: ...and thanks Ann for your pm and input on here.

Id appreciate it if people have any pictures or links...to help me make up my mind which ones to get.

 

[littlenell]

I use a dogmatic one for Ozzy. He pulled all the time (more so since his accident) it fits like a horses headcollar and to be honest i couldnt manage him without it cos I have a bad neck and back. My sister uses them too - she walks all 5 of her dogs together (and she has big dogs). :thumbsup:

 

[jok]

Don't like Halti's for the reasons already stated - riding up towards their eyes.

I used to walk my Dobe on a gentle leader and i got her one that was leather appearance but not actually leather. It worked really well and i wouldn't have liked walking her without it. She would only walk nicely for her dad!

I've heard good reports on the dogmatic too

 

[fallenangel]

fiuger 8 head coller every time if i cant get the the right size gental leaders are ok but haltys dont seam to fit pointy nose well. what ever you get they do take a littel time to get useed to and will try at fisrt to get them off allso rember dont pull them with it on as the more you pull farward the more it makes th dog go backwards as it leads them from the back thats why the fig 8s the best dosnt do that as mush. i have used them on tiny wippys and huge greyhounds and lurchers no problem when i train them to walk next to my wheelchair i only have one had free so carnt have a dog pulling or cutting infront of me they have to walk nicely. I fined after a few months use when there walking well you dont need them anymore

 

[whippetfan]

I see two issues with haltis:

1. Many dogs find them aversive. A dog clawing at its face when you fit one is not a happy dog but you're generally told "he'll get used to it". The problem is that dogs may find them aversive and uncomfortable whether they are pulling or not. The dog doesn't pull because you've basically extinguished any drive to do so. That's hardly a 'positive' approach to the issue of pulling yet these are touted as "kinder" than check chains.

2. Handlers can be quite rough with lead checks or dogs can learn to subtely lean on a halti. This all puts pressure on the sensitive area where the head meets the neck and can lead to long term chiropractic and nerve issues. The thought of a Whippet hitting the end of a lead wearing a halti isn't a pretty one. Suffice it to say they should never be used with extendable leads but that is a common practice here.

One of Australia's leading chiropractic vets took the step of writing to the Association of Pet Dog Trainers here recommending against the use of halti's and suggesting no pull harnesses like the Sporn be used instead.

Oh and dogs can learn to pull on them - I'll leave it to readers to decide what that would be doing to a dog's neck.

Quite a few professional dog trainers don't like them. That you can buy one of these and slap it on your dog with no understanding of how they work is pretty frightening.

Do they have a legitimate use? Yes, for large dogs with immediate management issues - they may be the go. But the only real solution to the pulling issue is to train your dog not to - and that's not as difficult as a lot of people think it is.

 

[littlenell]

Unfortunately Ozzy cant remember any of his training from one minute to the next - as I say I find the dogmatic invaluable. Vinnie walks like a dream on the lead but Ozzy is a nightmare. At least I can walk both of them together without being in agony after :b