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[jethro]

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Hi there all

Many thanks for looking at my little request,hope someone of you can help!

My lovely supermodel friend Kahlo is looking for LOVE :cheers: ... (w00t) 8) (w00t) see photo.

She's seventeen months old now and we don't want her mixing with the rong types you see.And she's so looking forward to having a family so we are sending out word to any dog owners out there who don't live to far away and have an attractive whippet(obviously) dog.

We live in the Surrey area about 30 miles south of London.We are looking for quite a small dog hopefully not more than 19 inches at the shoulder and ideally light in colour white/tan as Kahlo is we'll look at anydog realistically but would steer away from a huge brindle greyhounds if given a choise(no offence to any big black and brindle dogs we love you too)

So if you know some someone out thier with the best dam DOGS in the uk we would really love to hear from you by email... please send photos

best wishes to all Jethro

 

[dolly]

Perhaps if you could post the lady in question breeding someone may be able to reccommend a dog that may be suitable

 

[jethro]

Perhaps if you could post the lady in question breeding someone may be able to reccommend a dog that may be suitable

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Only too pleased to give any such detail available..Naturally as you can see Kahlo is from nothing but the best whippet stock available in such a small isle

but just to let you know from her reg certificate

her name OBAN ROYAL

SIRE FLEETWAY FIRM FAVORITE(AB3)

DAM OTTERONGO BLACK LILLY (AA4)

any futher details happily supplied

Many thanks Jethro

 

[Seraphina]

The best way is to contact her breeders and the should be able to recomend a sutable mate for her.

 

[dawn]

Without seeming rude, Have you bred a litter before and if not why do u want a litter from her?? Do you race her?

Have you got homes for the litter or will you be relying on advertising them?

Sorry to seem as if i am asking too many questions but there are far too many who think that because they have a bitch they should have a litter.

Having a litter is a big responsibility are you aware that you could loose your bitch in whelp? Do you have plenty of money to afford the vets bills if things dont go well with the whelping??

Reputable breeders put years into researching the breed before having a litter and search long and hard for the correct stud dog for their bitch, not just any old dog but one that will compliment and tie in with the lines of their pedigree.

Sorry but IMO there are far too many people having litters just for the sake of it to try and make a bit of money, well i can assure you if a litter and the pregnant bitch are reared properly you will be lucky if you break even.

Sorry for the rant but please think long and hard about this.

 

[kris]

got to say i agree with dawn.to many dogs chasing too few good homes

 

[jethro]

Without seeming rude, Have you bred a litter before and if not why do u want a litter from her??  Do you race her?
Have you got homes for the litter or will you be relying on advertising them?

Sorry to seem as if i am asking too many questions  but there are far too many who think that because they have a bitch they should have a litter.

Having a litter is a big responsibility are you aware that you could loose your bitch in whelp? Do you have plenty of money to afford the vets bills if things dont go well with the whelping??

Reputable breeders put years into researching the breed before having a  litter and search long and hard for the correct stud dog for their bitch, not just any old dog but one that will compliment and tie in with the lines of their pedigree.

Sorry but IMO there are far too many people having litters just for the sake of it to try and make a bit of money, well i can assure you if a litter and the pregnant bitch are reared properly you will be lucky if you break even.

Sorry for the rant  but please think long and hard about this.

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Well hello Dawn

thanks for the unkind and inappropriate comments I think you are as you say VERY rude

but just to let you know I have... bred litter's before.

And..No Im not racing anybody...... is it a prerequisite to breed your own dog?

and yes.... I can afford vet bills.... and NO...IM NOT DOING IT FOR THE F MONEY

and I'll furthermore I shall advertise where-ever I like

I have more people than hot dinner's wanting puppies so it wont effect your precious reputable market

If Im soo unlucky to lose my bitch in welp I shall not be asking you for sympathy

whoever said any old Dog!!

sorry wholly nessesary

J

 

[Windsdream]

Oh dear another one who doesn't like the truth

Well done Dawn :thumbsup:

 

[dawn]

Why come on here looking for a stud dog then havent u done any research?

Too many people are breeding for breedings sake and IMO that is not a good way forward for the breed as a whole!

 

[nina]

Well hello Dawn

thanks for the unkind and inappropriate comments I think you are as you say VERY rude

but just to let you know I have... bred litter's before.

And..No Im not racing anybody...... is it a prerequisite to breed your own dog?

and yes.... I can afford vet bills.... and NO...IM NOT DOING IT FOR THE F MONEY

and I'll furthermore I shall advertise where-ever I like

I have more people than hot dinner's wanting puppies so it wont effect your precious reputable market

If Im soo unlucky to lose my bitch in welp I shall not be asking you for sympathy

whoever said any old Dog!!

sorry wholly nessesary

J

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Hi Jethro,

I am sorry that you are angry at what Dawn replied, however i dont think she was being rude or unkind in ANY way.

She was just trying to point out a few simple facts & showing some genuine concern.

People on here you see, mainly have the good of the breed at heart. They do worry about where pups end up etc.

You say you have bred litters before yet have not quite explained WHY you are breeding litters?

It is easy to say that it is no ones business BUT if you are coming on here asking for help & for people to recommend stud dogs, most people will want to know why you are breeding a litter.

It is a fair comment to ask are you into racing? showing? etc

If you are asking for peoples help then you have to expect to answer some questions in return, its not unreasonable.

Maybe you could start again & supply some relevant information to begin with :thumbsup:

 

[Seraphina]

Hi Jethro;

actually it is you who is being very rude. It is a perfectly reasonable to ask if you wish to breed racing or show dogs. If I am considering to allow somebody to use my dog at stud i would be asking all the questions Dawn did plus many more. Breeding is big responsibility. When i breed a litter I am willing to take any of them back any time during their lifetime should the owner not be able to keep them. And i would do the same for dogs sired by my dog. What is more if i would allow inexperinced person to use my dog I would be here for them to advice right through the pregnancy, help to whelp her, and again be on hand to advice on care of the pups.

You say you have plenty of money, well that is good, but do you really have any idea of the costs?

=Pre-mating check and swab (antibiotic if there is a presence of infection)

=Doubling and then trippling of food intake from about half way in the pregnancy till weaning

=post parturition check up

=dew claws removal

=feeding of pups (5times a day) from about 4 weeks till they are old enough to be placed in their new homes - 9weeks plus

= bitch and pups worming from about 1week of age every couple of weeks

=adverising costs

That is if everything goes fine. Many bitches need a C-section, usually Sunday 1am.

Not much point for me putting the actual costs on all above, as most costs are much higher in UK, but just to give you an idea emergency caesar costs in excess $2000 here.

So if people are trying to give you an idea, you should take it in the spirit it was intended,. :luck:

cheers Lida

 

[whippynit]

from the general wording and the whole subject in general from mr Jethro the whole topic seems like a 'hoax' to me! probaly just to get reaction from people on here :unsure:

 

[jok]

from the general wording and the whole subject in general from mr Jethro the whole topic seems like a 'hoax'   to me! probaly just to get reaction from people on here :unsure:

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I think you could be right Lisa! :wacko:

 

[jethro]

Well hello Dawn thanks for the unkind and inappropriate comments I think you are as you say VERY rude

but just to let you know I have... bred litter's before.

And..No Im not racing anybody...... is it a prerequisite to breed your own dog?

and yes.... I can afford vet bills.... and NO...IM NOT DOING IT FOR THE F MONEY

and I'll furthermore I shall advertise where-ever I like

I have more people than hot dinner's wanting puppies so it wont effect your precious reputable market

If Im soo unlucky to lose my bitch in welp I shall not be asking you for sympathy

whoever said any old Dog!!

sorry wholly nessesary

J

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Hi Jethro,

I am sorry that you are angry at what Dawn replied, however i dont think she was being rude or unkind in ANY way.

She was just trying to point out a few simple facts & showing some genuine concern.

People on here you see, mainly have the good of the breed at heart. They do worry about where pups end up etc.

You say you have bred litters before yet have not quite explained WHY you are breeding litters?

It is easy to say that it is no ones business BUT if you are coming on here asking for help & for people to recommend stud dogs, most people will want to know why you are breeding a litter.

It is a fair comment to ask are you into racing? showing? etc

If you are asking for peoples help then you have to expect to answer some questions in return, its not unreasonable.

Maybe you could start again & supply some relevant information to begin with :thumbsup:

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Well Hello Nina..

Very sorry to be so late with my reply but I am a busy man unlike some...

And furthermore I do exist,

Im no Joke!!

though it would have been... quite a good one ...

Anyhow nina in my humble opinion Dawn was certainly RUDE.

Accusing ME breeding dogs for MONEY..... (how would you feel)

And firing off assumptions I have no idea what Im doing assuming she has any right to tell me what I can and cannot do with MY Bitch.. is Im afraid very VERY RUDE.

She has ABSOLUTLEY NO IDEA who I am.... how much thought I have put into breeding my bitch........ and has no right to take such a condecending tone.

Im SORRY for my clearly ANGRY reaction and Im happy to apologise for that.

But just because others have litters just for the sake of it that does not excuse Dawn for her rash comments in ANY WAY.

Really I dont mind questions but WHY be so high handed,

WHAT do I care and WHAT IS it to do with ME....

Dawns opinion of other breeder's founded or not.

That Im afraid nina is different.. from pointing out simple facts and showing concern.

if she wants real communication she should take some lessons in TACT...

Your tone Nina on the other hand thankyou shows up Dawn quite nicely as the :rant: that she seems to be.

At least you took the time to write somthing considerd and constructive whilst not nessesary agreeing with everything you mention Im happy to agree that yes people are entitled to ask questions that reflect thier concern for the breed. Lida also made comments all of which I may not agree with but didnt just rant...they gave clea, useful,relevent details that reek of expirience and genuine concern.So if anyone has reasonable questions and a real reason(like you actually own a stud dog that fits my original request) I should be very happy to answer any questions you might have in the nicest possible way.

And to Kris I can only say your catch phrase says oh so very much about who you are.. that it leaves me absolutly nothing... to add. :- "

 

[dawn]

Where in my post did I say You were having a litter for money? It was just a general comment.

There ARE people who rush into having a litter and dont know the first thing about breeding (and before you jump down my throat that comment is not aimed at anyone in particular)

I care very much about the breed I love and am sure if i had not made that post someone else would have.

Your tone Nina on the other hand thankyou shows up Dawn quite nicely as the IGNORANT JUDGMENTAL BITCH  that she seems to be

I think it is you that is the one being rude! You do not know me or Nina.

 

[nina]

Well hello Dawn thanks for the unkind and inappropriate comments I think you are as you say VERY rude

but just to let you know I have... bred litter's before.

And..No Im not racing anybody...... is it a prerequisite to breed your own dog?

and yes.... I can afford vet bills.... and NO...IM NOT DOING IT FOR THE F MONEY

and I'll furthermore I shall advertise where-ever I like

I have more people than hot dinner's wanting puppies so it wont effect your precious reputable market

If Im soo unlucky to lose my bitch in welp I shall not be asking you for sympathy

whoever said any old Dog!!

sorry wholly nessesary

J

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Hi Jethro,

I am sorry that you are angry at what Dawn replied, however i dont think she was being rude or unkind in ANY way.

She was just trying to point out a few simple facts & showing some genuine concern.

People on here you see, mainly have the good of the breed at heart. They do worry about where pups end up etc.

You say you have bred litters before yet have not quite explained WHY you are breeding litters?

It is easy to say that it is no ones business BUT if you are coming on here asking for help & for people to recommend stud dogs, most people will want to know why you are breeding a litter.

It is a fair comment to ask are you into racing? showing? etc

If you are asking for peoples help then you have to expect to answer some questions in return, its not unreasonable.

Maybe you could start again & supply some relevant information to begin with :thumbsup:

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Well Hello Nina..

Very sorry to be so late with my reply but I am a busy man unlike some...

And furthermore I do exist,

Im no Joke!!

though it would have been... quite a good one ...

Anyhow nina in my humble opinion Dawn was certainly RUDE.

Accusing ME breeding dogs for MONEY..... (how would you feel)

And firing off assumptions I have no idea what Im doing assuming she has any right to tell me what I can and cannot do with MY Bitch.. is Im afraid very VERY RUDE.

She has ABSOLUTLEY NO IDEA who I am.... how much thought I have put into breeding my bitch........ and has no right to take such a condecending tone.

Im SORRY for my clearly ANGRY reaction and Im happy to apologise for that.

But just because others have litters just for the sake of it that does not excuse Dawn for her rash comments in ANY WAY.

Really I dont mind questions but WHY be so high handed,

WHAT do I care and WHAT IS it to do with ME....

Dawns opinion of other breeder's founded or not.

That Im afraid nina is different.. from pointing out simple facts and showing concern.

if she wants real communication she should take some lessons in TACT...

Your tone Nina on the other hand thankyou shows up Dawn quite nicely as the :rant: that she seems to be.

At least you took the time to write somthing considerd and constructive whilst not nessesary agreeing with everything you mention Im happy to agree that yes people are entitled to ask questions that reflect thier concern for the breed. Lida also made comments all of which I may not agree with but didnt just rant...they gave clea, useful,relevent details that reek of expirience and genuine concern.So if anyone has reasonable questions and a real reason(like you actually own a stud dog that fits my original request) I should be very happy to answer any questions you might have in the nicest possible way.

And to Kris I can only say your catch phrase says oh so very much about who you are.. that it leaves me absolutly nothing... to add. :- "

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Ooops, seems like i did nothing to calm you down a wee bit then :- "

Listen, we can all take things the wrong way sometimes. )

People just get concerned about litters being bred & sold willy nilly AND BEFORE you have a fit no one is implying YOU.

But it would be nice to know some information.

Before anyone recommends a stud dog whatever it would be nice to know why you are wanting a litter?

Ok call me nosey BUT i do like to know if folk are wanting to show or race or just want a son or daughter from their beloved pet ?

So...........................................you have a very pretty little bitch who has Fleetway breeding which i beleive is a Mrs Tugwell, would love to know some more behind this breeding & if you would like to have a litter to: show/race????

If you would like to pm me & have a chat, you know sometimes breeding litters isnt all its cracked up to be, i know you have said you have homes for the pups BUT things can go wrong

Anyway it would be nice to hear from you

 

[dolly]

I have to agree with Nina,

when someone ask to use the dogs, ( i own one and look after two others) we always give them the third degree,

suitable homes

why you want alitter

race, show, course and pet

money stashed in the bank for emergency

what happens if it goes wrong

facilities if puppies/old dogs brought back

and lots and lots and lots of time !!

Perhaps advertsing on here the way you did brought adverse comments you didnt like, but at the end of the day, its usually the people on here, spend alot of time and money rescuing unwanted puppies and adult dogs

 

[jethro]

Very fair comments Dolly

ho to that

J

 

[kris]

Well hello Dawn thanks for the unkind and inappropriate comments I think you are as you say VERY rude

but just to let you know I have... bred litter's before.

And..No Im not racing anybody...... is it a prerequisite to breed your own dog?

and yes.... I can afford vet bills.... and NO...IM NOT DOING IT FOR THE F MONEY

and I'll furthermore I shall advertise where-ever I like

I have more people than hot dinner's wanting puppies so it wont effect your precious reputable market

If Im soo unlucky to lose my bitch in welp I shall not be asking you for sympathy

whoever said any old Dog!!

sorry wholly nessesary

J

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Hi Jethro,

I am sorry that you are angry at what Dawn replied, however i dont think she was being rude or unkind in ANY way.

She was just trying to point out a few simple facts & showing some genuine concern.

People on here you see, mainly have the good of the breed at heart. They do worry about where pups end up etc.

You say you have bred litters before yet have not quite explained WHY you are breeding litters?

It is easy to say that it is no ones business BUT if you are coming on here asking for help & for people to recommend stud dogs, most people will want to know why you are breeding a litter.

It is a fair comment to ask are you into racing? showing? etc

If you are asking for peoples help then you have to expect to answer some questions in return, its not unreasonable.

Maybe you could start again & supply some relevant information to begin with :thumbsup:

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Well Hello Nina..

Very sorry to be so late with my reply but I am a busy man unlike some...

And furthermore I do exist,

Im no Joke!!

though it would have been... quite a good one ...

Anyhow nina in my humble opinion Dawn was certainly RUDE.

Accusing ME breeding dogs for MONEY..... (how would you feel)

And firing off assumptions I have no idea what Im doing assuming she has any right to tell me what I can and cannot do with MY Bitch.. is Im afraid very VERY RUDE.

She has ABSOLUTLEY NO IDEA who I am.... how much thought I have put into breeding my bitch........ and has no right to take such a condecending tone.

Im SORRY for my clearly ANGRY reaction and Im happy to apologise for that.

But just because others have litters just for the sake of it that does not excuse Dawn for her rash comments in ANY WAY.

Really I dont mind questions but WHY be so high handed,

WHAT do I care and WHAT IS it to do with ME....

Dawns opinion of other breeder's founded or not.

That Im afraid nina is different.. from pointing out simple facts and showing concern.

if she wants real communication she should take some lessons in TACT...

Your tone Nina on the other hand thankyou shows up Dawn quite nicely as the :rant: that she seems to be.

At least you took the time to write somthing considerd and constructive whilst not nessesary agreeing with everything you mention Im happy to agree that yes people are entitled to ask questions that reflect thier concern for the breed. Lida also made comments all of which I may not agree with but didnt just rant...they gave clea, useful,relevent details that reek of expirience and genuine concern.So if anyone has reasonable questions and a real reason(like you actually own a stud dog that fits my original request) I should be very happy to answer any questions you might have in the nicest possible way.

And to Kris I can only say your catch phrase says oh so very much about who you are.. that it leaves me absolutly nothing... to add. :- "

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was that the one about too many dogs chasing too few good homes? :- " its not a catch phrase by the way,its a fact of life. :thumbsup: as for what i post says a lot about me,you dont know the first thing about me.and all i know about you is that you have a pet bitch you want to breed from,and youre extremely sensitive when anyone asks you for info about your reasons for breeding.'nuff said

 

[jethro]

No Kris I mean the one about the 380SL

J