Lurcher Gone For Son

[Tigernidster]

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the dog needs to be pts you can not return to the dog home and be happy they find the right home for it, what if it bites a kid in the street or it goes to an elderly couple who have grandchildren, im sorry but i am as soft as the next person re my dogs but i live by the rule if any of my dogs bite anyone they are gone

i think thats a bit harsh maybe the dog has previously had a bad experience with children un be known to anybody as long as the home are aware of the situation i see no reason why the dog cannot be rehomed with a non child family and is muzzled when out at all times

I think it is extremely harsh. I hope the dog can be rehomed and have the good life he deserves.

 

[littlenell]

I completely agree I don't see why a dog should die because it doesn't like kids....I don't like kids but I'm allowed to live!!! ok so I won't bite one but ya never know :lol: :lol:

my dogs get the best of everything and every chance of a happy contented life, but im sorry agression especially towards children is different and everyone has different views, i take dog ownership seriously and if any dog i have in the house that turns on anyone will be pts i could not live with myself if that dog was rehomed and sometime down the line turned again and scarred (or worse) a child

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Im sorry but I totally agree with the above post. When I moved in with my husband he had 2 English bull terriers and I had an eight year old son. We had been there for several months when one night I was in the kitchen and my son was in the hall when the dog suddenly jumped up him and pinned him to the wall by his shoulders, its face was about half an inch away from my sons face and it was snarling and slavering. Very very frightening!! I threw some food on the floor and when the dog was distracted I grabbed my son and shut him and myself in the living room away from the dog. My husband came home from work and took the dog straight to the vet and the dog was put to sleep. We were all upset - especially my son who thought that my OH wouldnt want us to live with him anymore because the dog had to be pts - he cried as did my husband and me! but we did the right thing, we just wouldnt have trusted him again and the vet said we must not pass the danger on to someone else. The bitch was lovely and lived with us until she died of old age. Unless youve been in the situation its easy to put the dog first.

 

[affieluver]

i know its just that i have seen some pretty horiffic children around dogs too and i do think the dog gets the bad press all the time im not saying anyones children is to blame in any of these situations but its easy to blame this dog in particular when nobody knows its history it is different when the dog has been a member of a household for some time then suddenly turns i would then have no hesitation in having it pts as its unpredictbable

i would still under the circumsatnces give the lurcher in question a second chance in a non child environment with knowledable owners )

 

[masta]

i know its just that i have seen some pretty horiffic children around dogs too and i do think the dog gets the bad press all the time im not saying anyones children is to blame in any of these situations but its easy to blame this dog in particular when nobody knows its history it is different when the dog has been a member of a household for some time then suddenly turns i would then have no hesitation in having it pts as its unpredictbable
i would still under the circumsatnces give the lurcher in question a second chance in a non child environment with knowledable owners )

"A second chance" = you have to ask yourself the questions, why was it in the dogs home had it already shown aggression and the owners had kept quite, can you trust the home to home it responsibly, will it go to another home spend 6 months as a perfectly calm loving dog then have a "mishap" and a child is hurt, sometimes difficult,painful decisions have to be made that is part and parcel of being a responsible dog owner

 

[~Annie~]

The dog that bit my son (see my previous post) came from a small local rescue that had been happy to place him with a family with young children as the dog had no known history of aggression and we were experienced owners who had fostered for them in the past. After we returned him he was homed by another of the homes fosterers who had no young kids and acres of secure garden for Jasper to exercise in, in fact I don't think he has ever been walked in public since - last I heard he was still going strong, he's about 12 or 13 now. It was said to us at the time that if that home hadn't been available then the rescue probably would have had him pts and I am happy that that would have been the right thing to do even though he has in fact lived a long, happy and to the best of my knowledge incident free life.

I suppose what I'm trying to say is that there are circumstances under which a second chance is possible, but they are unusual circumstances and most rescues probably don't have the resources to be certain of placing a potentially aggressive dog in a situation where it can do no harm ... a dog that has threatened both an adult and a child probably should be pts but surely the original inexperienced poster should not be censured for leaving that decision to the rescue concerned.

Annie

 

[jane002]

i know its just that i have seen some pretty horiffic children around dogs too and i do think the dog gets the bad press all the time im not saying anyones children is to blame in any of these situations but its easy to blame this dog in particular when nobody knows its history it is different when the dog has been a member of a household for some time then suddenly turns i would then have no hesitation in having it pts as its unpredictbable
i would still under the circumsatnces give the lurcher in question a second chance in a non child environment with knowledable owners )

"A second chance" = you have to ask yourself the questions, why was it in the dogs home had it already shown aggression and the owners had kept quite, can you trust the home to home it responsibly, will it go to another home spend 6 months as a perfectly calm loving dog then have a "mishap" and a child is hurt, sometimes difficult,painful decisions have to be made that is part and parcel of being a responsible dog owner

The dog if it was goten from a dogs home in manchester, more than likily came from manchester dogs home,

its the local stray pound, the dogs are not accessed properly, so it could have been picked up off the streets,

and not come from a home, you can walk in there today and just walk out with any dog,

although it is one of the better stray kennels - its still just that a stray kennels,

most they know about the dogs is what there like in kennels, not in a home invoroment,

with work this dog could live its life with out ever biteing or growling again - theres no need for it to be pts,

although if it has gone back - it will more than likily be pts anyway.

 

[~Annie~]

I see what you are saying, but who is going to do the work ... surely not an inexperienced owner with a young child who, until the work is done, is potentially at risk of injury. I don't think it helps Tracy (the original poster) to make her feel worse about what is already a difficult situation. I can't see that she has any option but to return the dog whence it came.

Hard fact imho ... a childs face is worth more than a dogs life.

Annie

 

[affieluver]

i agree annie tracy is having to make a difficult decision for all concerned lets not make her feel she is doing the wrong thing each individual dog is different but lets remember it has gone for her child which can never be replaced she can always get another dog tracy you are doing 100% the right thing please do not feel guilty :thumbsup:

 

[jane002]

I see what you are saying, but who is going to do the work ... surely not an inexperienced owner with a young child who, until the work is done, is potentially at risk of injury. I don't think it helps Tracy (the original poster) to make her feel worse about what is already a difficult situation. I can't see that she has any option but to return the dog whence it came.
Hard fact imho ... a childs face is worth more than a dogs life.

Annie

Who was making her feel worse?, i was commenting on what was said, and giving a resion,

not comminting on what tracy should do with the dog, thats up to her, i gave her advice in the other thread she did,

and that was - on the internet no one can give advice about aggression, you need a beahavourist to do that, and i gave her a number to a lurcher trainer,

whos experanced in this sort of behavour, he would have adviced her on what to do, as none of us where there and did not see what happened.

why was it in the dogs home had it already shown aggression and the owners had kept quite, can you trust the home to home it responsibly

Ive known of plenty of lurcher rescues take dogs on that have bitten in the past, and they have rehomed them sucessfuly.

 

[FeeFee]

I certainly don't think the dog deserves to be put to sleep, some dogs just don't 'get' very young children and find their sudden movements, high pitched voices and noise and energy frightening and confusing. It's why so many rescues won't rehome to families with young children - it's one of the most common reasons for dog bouncing back.

Personally I wouldn't return him to Manchester Dogs Home either (if that's where he came from) unless he was rehomed with some sort of contract to say he must go back there. They do their best, but they have the local council pound contract and take in huge numbers of dogs. They can't assess them or work with them as a small rescue would and they are the last place I would go to adopt a dog if I had young children.

Please talk to someone like lurcherlink http://www.lurcher.org/llink/forum/index.php or Greyhound Gap http://www.greyhoundgap.org.uk/ If there's any way they can squeeze him in they will get him into a foster home situation with someone who can assess him and work with him, and they will make sure he is rehomed responsibly.

 

[moretoniacarol@tiscali.co.uk]

I certainly don't think the dog deserves to be put to sleep, some dogs just don't 'get' very young children and find their sudden movements, high pitched voices and noise and energy frightening and confusing. It's why so many rescues won't rehome to families with young children - it's one of the most common reasons for dog bouncing back.
Personally I wouldn't return him to Manchester Dogs Home either (if that's where he came from) unless he was rehomed with some sort of contract to say he must go back there. They do their best, but they have the local council pound contract and take in huge numbers of dogs. They can't assess them or work with them as a small rescue would and they are the last place I would go to adopt a dog if I had young children.

Please talk to someone like lurcherlink http://www.lurcher.org/llink/forum/index.php or Greyhound Gap http://www.greyhoundgap.org.uk/ If there's any way they can squeeze him in they will get him into a foster home situation with someone who can assess him and work with him, and they will make sure he is rehomed responsibly.

having just read this topic no one mentionions any form of discipline was the dog repremanded for growling? Ihave 12 dogs that live together in the house and if one of themshowed any growling or aggression to other dogs or especially a human its feet wouldnt touch the ground most dogs are trainable and i think they have to earn your affection and that way you stay in control and your dogs want to please you. So my question is what did you do when the dog growled?

 

[affieluver]

I certainly don't think the dog deserves to be put to sleep, some dogs just don't 'get' very young children and find their sudden movements, high pitched voices and noise and energy frightening and confusing. It's why so many rescues won't rehome to families with young children - it's one of the most common reasons for dog bouncing back.
Personally I wouldn't return him to Manchester Dogs Home either (if that's where he came from) unless he was rehomed with some sort of contract to say he must go back there. They do their best, but they have the local council pound contract and take in huge numbers of dogs. They can't assess them or work with them as a small rescue would and they are the last place I would go to adopt a dog if I had young children.

Please talk to someone like lurcherlink http://www.lurcher.org/llink/forum/index.php or Greyhound Gap http://www.greyhoundgap.org.uk/ If there's any way they can squeeze him in they will get him into a foster home situation with someone who can assess him and work with him, and they will make sure he is rehomed responsibly.

having just read this topic no one mentionions any form of discipline was the dog repremanded for growling? Ihave 12 dogs that live together in the house and if one of themshowed any growling or aggression to other dogs or especially a human its feet wouldnt touch the ground most dogs are trainable and i think they have to earn your affection and that way you stay in control and your dogs want to please you. So my question is what did you do when the dog growled?

sorry if i have read your post wrong but i presume when you say your dogs feet wouldnt toch the floor you mean physical punishment??

im sorry but a growling dog is sending out a warning for a reason the dog in question clearly has an issue with children and i for one certainly wouldnt want to heighten his aggression by using physical punishment as the results could have been disasterous for all concerned tracey has certainly done the best thing for her and her family sorry if i have read your post wrong though

 

[~Annie~]

I don't think anyone was suggesting that the dog be pts for growling but rather because

I think that Henry has bitten my son as he's got a small graze above his eye

and because

I have just found out he's gone for my mum who looks after my son whilst I am at work

And yes it may well be possible to rehome this dog with the right training, but I'd have thought that when a dog bites a child, however slightly, the risk to the child while the retraining is ongoing is just too great for that retraining to happen within the adoptive family. Even if a physical reprimand worked while you were there you couldn't guarantee it would have any effect when you weren't.

Annie

 

[moretoniacarol@tiscali.co.uk]

I don't think anyone was suggesting that the dog be pts for growling but rather because

I think that Henry has bitten my son as he's got a small graze above his eye

and because

I have just found out he's gone for my mum who looks after my son whilst I am at work

And yes it may well be possible to rehome this dog with the right training, but I'd have thought that when a dog bites a child, however slightly, the risk to the child while the retraining is ongoing is just too great for that retraining to happen within the adoptive family. Even if a physical reprimand worked while you were there you couldn't guarantee it would have any effect when you weren't.

Annie

No i dont beat my dogs i love them to bits but like all dogs they have to learn right from wrong this dog might have ruled the roost and been aloud to get away with doing what ever it likes.

 

[Tracyc69]

Henry has gone back now, so all this is water under the bridge but for the record, of course i reprimanded the dog when he growled at my son, i did this the 4 times that he did it, i then did it again when he bit my son.

As Annie pointed out i wouldnt have been able to rehabilitate the dog at home as I didnt trust him and was indeed frightened what he might do next, i couldnt live like that. Although i have been called inexperienced, i have had dogs in the past and i know how to handle them, i've never had a Lurcher or one from a dogs home before.

I returned him to the dogs home which was Manchester Dogs Home as i was under the impression that is what i had to do, i couldnt have left him in my home a day longer waiting for another rescue to find him a home. It never entered my head that he would be pts and i sincerely hope he hasnt. Also i didnt know that the dogs werent properly assessed and i will certainly not be going there again for a dog!

It has not put me or my family off dogs, my son still loves dogs and we are going to get a puppy.

Thanks for everyone's advice on this matter.

regards

Tracy

 

[affieluver]

Pleased to hear you are getting a puppy you did the right thing at least your son wont be another victim of a dog attack as we so often here these days

good luck with your new arrival when you do get him/her :luck: :luck:

 

[TTT]

I think you did the best thing in your little boys interest. It had to be the right choice, no matter how hard it felt taking the dog back. Hopefully you will get a dog to suit in the future, i'm glad your little boy has not been put off all dogs. Good luck in the future.

 

[Finleyfoofoo]

You have done the right thing.A puppy will be great for your son,and they can grow up together.

Good luck,and put it all behind you.I would have done the same.

Amandaxx :luck: :luck: :luck:

 

[pepa]

oh god Tracy just relised who you are mum and dad told me friday night that Henry had to go back I am so sorry you should have had mum ring me up and I would have come and seen what was going on I feel arful that I didnt know what was going on.

I know how much you love pepa , phoebe and Pagen and they were a big part in you wonting a lurcher. all I can say is dont give up on the breed you know how lucky we have been with ours keep looking on here its how I got my last two babys. they do get very addictive.

I will knock on next time were at mum's

sue xxxxxxx

 

[Finleyfoofoo]

I might be speaking out of turn here.But if even one of the dogs,ive had for years,or any pup i have in my possesion,as much as turned an evil eye towards one of my kids,then it wouldn't be breathing.Sorry if this is a bit abrupt.But ive seen 1st hand,what a mess a dog,or even a 5 month old pup,can make,of a childs face,and this was one that was reared from 6 weeks,in the house,with kids.Not everyone would be as like minded as me ,on this.But as said,he was giving out plenty of warning signs before hand,so it wasn't a one off.If you realy want a dog,then the homes are bursting to the seems,with pups of allsorts.Goodluck in finding the right one,but be sure that youre kid hasn't got a fear of dogs now,before you embark on getting one.Again,im sorry for sounding abrupt,but thats me. ...Billy...

I agree totally.I adore all my dogs,but if any of them bit out of agression,it would be PTS.I know of someone who had a Staffie,it bit her,so she took it back.Only to see it back on the website,no mention of the fact it had bitten,saying good with kids etc.So some other poor soul would go through the same thing.Any dog that has bitten,to me,can never be trusted.My own dog,Finn,had his side ripped open last year by a rescue collie,3 weeks later,it attacked a chap walking his dog,and has since been destroyed.So you are a realist in my opinion,and well said

Amandax