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[Riley]

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Thank you Yvonne and Pat for responding to my post. I was hoping someone would! Your turn now Lisa.

 

[rls22]

There has been much discussion recently about the differences between all rounders and specialists, i.e. their placings, but I don't think movement came into the equation. I would be interested to hear which of you prefer foreign judges, specialists or all rounders. I personally would probably enter under any of them if I thought they'd like my type.

We have the same attitude as you Patsy.................this year we have entered under foreign, specialists and all-rounders & have had some really good results. That said we are normally a little bit wary of all-rounders. We try and do our homework thoroughly first before spending our hard earned cash!!!!!

Of course there have been times over the years that we have totally mis-judge!! what a judge would like. Sometimes for the better and sometimes not.

Yvonne

Very much our approach to it too!

We try and give most people a go once, but after that we try to be more selective as showing is an expensive hobby, especially when we will be actively showing 5 this year - eek!!

Our best results have come under breed specialists but we have had some fab ones under all rounders and the foreign judges too.

This weekend at the Hound Show will be really interesting - I'm very much looking fwd to watching the judging

 

[Noise]

There has been much discussion recently about the differences between all rounders and specialists, i.e. their placings, but I don't think movement came into the equation. I would be interested to hear which of you prefer foreign judges, specialists or all rounders. I personally would probably enter under any of them if I thought they'd like my type.

We have the same attitude as you Patsy.................this year we have entered under foreign, specialists and all-rounders & have had some really good results. That said we are normally a little bit wary of all-rounders. We try and do our homework thoroughly first before spending our hard earned cash!!!!!

Of course there have been times over the years that we have totally mis-judge!! what a judge would like. Sometimes for the better and sometimes not.

Yvonne

Very much our approach to it too!

We try and give most people a go once, but after that we try to be more selective as showing is an expensive hobby, especially when we will be actively showing 5 this year - eek!!

Our best results have come under breed specialists but we have had some fab ones under all rounders and the foreign judges too.

This weekend at the Hound Show will be really interesting - I'm very much looking fwd to watching the judging

I won't be there but am looking forward to the results. just got my dog world and it was very interesting reading the critique from WC of Scotland.

 

[kennelmaid]

There has been much discussion recently about the differences between all rounders and specialists, i.e. their placings, but I don't think movement came into the equation. I would be interested to hear which of you prefer foreign judges, specialists or all rounders. I personally would probably enter under any of them if I thought they'd like my type.

We have the same attitude as you Patsy.................this year we have entered under foreign, specialists and all-rounders & have had some really good results. That said we are normally a little bit wary of all-rounders. We try and do our homework thoroughly first before spending our hard earned cash!!!!!

Of course there have been times over the years that we have totally mis-judge!! what a judge would like. Sometimes for the better and sometimes not.

Yvonne

Very much our approach to it too!

We try and give most people a go once, but after that we try to be more selective as showing is an expensive hobby, especially when we will be actively showing 5 this year - eek!!

Our best results have come under breed specialists but we have had some fab ones under all rounders and the foreign judges too.

This weekend at the Hound Show will be really interesting - I'm very much looking fwd to watching the judging

Don't envy you Rachel............we have the same problem having 5 showable whippets. We have a big pow wow & then spend days wondering whether we entered the right dogs.......................it's sometimes a very hard decision to make & some get left at home

2 foreign judges for the Hound Show this year & they have drawn huge entry..........really looking forward to this one

Going back to the original topic..............I think movement is most important viewed from all angles & fore & aft should not be dismissed. It is not just about profile movement!!!

Over to you Liza

Yvonne

 

[lorna anne]

Gait/MovementShould possess great freedom of action. In profile should move with a long, easy stride whist holding topline. The forelegs should be thrown forward and low over the ground. Hind legs should come well under the body giving greater propelling power. General movement not to look stilted, high stepping, short or mincing. True coming and going.

Could someone please expand on the "hold its topline" bit? Does this mean the same as the "topline must be firm"? I understand that the topline mustn't wobble when the dog moves. Does it also mean that the topline musn't flatten out whe the dog moves? In other words, that the definite arch over the loins is maintained on the move. Is there anything else meant in this often used phrase of "hold its topline"?

 

[oakmoorehill]

There has been much discussion recently about the differences between all rounders and specialists, i.e. their placings, but I don't think movement came into the equation. I would be interested to hear which of you prefer foreign judges, specialists or all rounders. I personally would probably enter under any of them if I thought they'd like my type.

We have the same attitude as you Patsy.................this year we have entered under foreign, specialists and all-rounders & have had some really good results. That said we are normally a little bit wary of all-rounders. We try and do our homework thoroughly first before spending our hard earned cash!!!!!

Of course there have been times over the years that we have totally mis-judge!! what a judge would like. Sometimes for the better and sometimes not.

Yvonne

Very much our approach to it too!

We try and give most people a go once, but after that we try to be more selective as showing is an expensive hobby, especially when we will be actively showing 5 this year - eek!!

Our best results have come under breed specialists but we have had some fab ones under all rounders and the foreign judges too.

This weekend at the Hound Show will be really interesting - I'm very much looking fwd to watching the judging

Don't envy you Rachel............we have the same problem having 5 showable whippets. We have a big pow wow & then spend days wondering whether we entered the right dogs.......................it's sometimes a very hard decision to make & some get left at home

2 foreign judges for the Hound Show this year & they have drawn huge entry..........really looking forward to this one

Going back to the original topic..............I think movement is most important viewed from all angles & fore & aft should not be dismissed. It is not just about profile movement!!!

Over to you Liza

Yvonne

We have the same with 2 pups 2 juniors and all the older ones and the greyhounds to show we have to decide which to take. I thought this decision was made easier as Freyja was to have pups unfortunately it was not to be so she will also be back in the ring soon. I would have loved to take her to the hound show.

 

[bertha]

Gait/MovementShould possess great freedom of action. In profile should move with a long, easy stride whist holding topline. The forelegs should be thrown forward and low over the ground. Hind legs should come well under the body giving greater propelling power. General movement not to look stilted, high stepping, short or mincing. True coming and going.

Could someone please expand on the "hold its topline" bit? Does this mean the same as the "topline must be firm"? I understand that the topline mustn't wobble when the dog moves. Does it also mean that the topline musn't flatten out whe the dog moves? In other words, that the definite arch over the loins is maintained on the move. Is there anything else meant in this often used phrase of "hold its topline"?

Can you tell me why you are obsessed with the whippet's top line?????

 

[chelynnah]

Gait/MovementShould possess great freedom of action. In profile should move with a long, easy stride whist holding topline. The forelegs should be thrown forward and low over the ground. Hind legs should come well under the body giving greater propelling power. General movement not to look stilted, high stepping, short or mincing. True coming and going.

Could someone please expand on the "hold its topline" bit? Does this mean the same as the "topline must be firm"? I understand that the topline mustn't wobble when the dog moves. Does it also mean that the topline musn't flatten out whe the dog moves? In other words, that the definite arch over the loins is maintained on the move. Is there anything else meant in this often used phrase of "hold its topline"?

Yes. It must not flatten out, or bunch up. What you see in the topline on the stack should be what you see on the move.

 

[bertha]

Gait/MovementShould possess great freedom of action. In profile should move with a long, easy stride whist holding topline. The forelegs should be thrown forward and low over the ground. Hind legs should come well under the body giving greater propelling power. General movement not to look stilted, high stepping, short or mincing. True coming and going.

Could someone please expand on the "hold its topline" bit? Does this mean the same as the "topline must be firm"? I understand that the topline mustn't wobble when the dog moves. Does it also mean that the topline musn't flatten out whe the dog moves? In other words, that the definite arch over the loins is maintained on the move. Is there anything else meant in this often used phrase of "hold its topline"?

Can you tell me why you are obsessed with the whippet's top line?????

I would like an answer to my question lorna anne! Have you got a problem with a whippet you own by any chance?

 

[Ridgesetter]

Posts are meant to be educative and informative and I thought not to single any particular dog or perceived faults out.

Whippet toplines are being discussed in General Discussion so maybe interested listers could discuss toplines there.

Cheers

 

[liza]

Posts are meant to be educative and informative and I thought not to single any particular dog or perceived faults out.
Whippet toplines are being discussed in General Discussion so maybe interested listers could discuss toplines there.

Cheers

a whippet should hold its topline on the move

no sloping off or dropping its topline and should not roll on the move

should have a firm but balanced topline showing power but elleglance on the move

to me my rosie has the ideal topline she is very well balaced

heres a pic of her

 

[lorna anne]

Gait/MovementShould possess great freedom of action. In profile should move with a long, easy stride whist holding topline. The forelegs should be thrown forward and low over the ground. Hind legs should come well under the body giving greater propelling power. General movement not to look stilted, high stepping, short or mincing. True coming and going.

Could someone please expand on the "hold its topline" bit? Does this mean the same as the "topline must be firm"? I understand that the topline mustn't wobble when the dog moves. Does it also mean that the topline musn't flatten out whe the dog moves? In other words, that the definite arch over the loins is maintained on the move. Is there anything else meant in this often used phrase of "hold its topline"?

Can you tell me why you are obsessed with the whippet's top line?????

I would like an answer to my question lorna anne! Have you got a problem with a whippet you own by any chance?

Hi Bertha, sorry for the delay in answering your question. Work sometimes gets in the way of interesting discussions, doesn't it?! I have a young whippet bitch who has more of an arch over her loins than my other current and past whippets have had. She definitely doesn't have a roached or wheelback, but is more the old-fashioned whippet in type. I'm trying to figure out if this would be considered a fault in the ring. I've have unfortunately not been able to show her as yet as it is winter here, so I do not know what the judges opinion whould be of her. But MANY THANKS to all for answsering my questions so patiently, I will now stop "obsessing with the whippet's topline"

 

[rls22]

Would it be possible to post a photo of her - then we can see if you are worrying over nothing or not