Looking For Patterdale Terrier puppies in the South-East?

[PatterdalePuppy]

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I'm new to this forum so I don't know if this is the correct place to post this, but assuming it is, I'll go ahead. I am going to get a puppy, and we have decided on the Patterdale Terrier. So I've been looking on websites - Pets4Homes, Preloved - and the problem is that the only puppies I can find are really far away - as in up north, three-hour drives. One of them was six hours! And the Patterdales that are relatively close to us aren't puppies. So, since I'm at a loss, I came here, and I was wondering if anyone could help me find some puppies in the South-East area. Bedfordshire would be brilliant. I will continue searching of course, I just need a little bit more help.
Many thanks.

EDIT: As a side note, we are okay with black or red ones - with the red we would love it if he had a white chest blaze and white socks - but we don't want chocolate ones. Gender is not an issue, my mum and dad are fine with both, but if we get a female my mum said she has to be spayed so her periods won't be regular. Oh and also, we want a smooth-coated puppy, not rough or broken.

 

[JoanneF]

Preloved and pets4homes are not the most reputable sites for quality puppies and with a Patterdale you will have to be very, very careful about temperament as they are essentially bred to work and are not the easiest of dogs as a pet. A good breeder will select parents of calmer and sound temperament if they are intending the litter not to be worked.

Champdogs is a better site to use for health and temperament tested dogs.

 

[arealhuman]

Perhaps some rescue centres local to you might be a good place to look? I only say this due to the temperament issues @JoanneF refers to, there sadly might be a high abandonment rate. Let us know how you get on

 

[JoanneF]

there sadly might be a high abandonment rate.

There is. And there is a Patterdale Rescue Society. The problem is many people take them on thinking they will make good pets but these dogs are bred to work so without a job they become frustrated, bored and that leads to huge behaviour issues that people who don't have A LOT of terrier experience just struggle with. OP I hope you realise these dogs are not your average family pet.

 

[JudyN]

A very experienced trainer/behaviourist who I respect had this to say about Patterdales: 'Patts are usually psychopaths. They live to kill. They are bred for a tough job and they do it very well. The only terriers anything like a Patt in terms of kill drive are Plummers and working Bedlingtons (which are light years away from larry lambkin show Bedlingtons). The average lovely loving pet owner cannot begin to handle this drive.'
The fact that you are so specific about colour does suggest that you are putting appearance over suitability, which can go horribly wrong.

This is something that's very important to me, because I chose my dog to a large extent on looks. If it wasn't for the fact that I work part-time from home, my children are adults, and I could afford behaviourists, he could well have ended up on a one-way trip to the vet - despite us raising him from a pup 'by the book'.

 

[JoanneF]

Your friend puts it very well @JudyN!

 

[Violet Turner]

Okay I've been doing research for rescue centres in the UK for Patterdale Terriers.

I found some on the Dogs Trust- https://www.dogstrust.org.uk/rehoming/dogs/filters/~228~~~~n~ I also found some on the RSPCA website for Kent- https://www.rspca.org.uk/findapet

And some on the Blue Cross -https://www.bluecross.org.uk/rehome/dog?f[0]=field_breed:64&f[1]=field_species_single:6&view_name=find-a-pet&facet_field=field_horse_height&display_name=page&distance=50

A Patterdale rescue - http://www.patterdaleterrierrescue.co.uk/

Also a link to pets4homes- https://www.pets4homes.co.uk/classifieds/1845459-little-pip-wants-a-new-forever-loving-home-barnsley.html



Good luck with your search!

 

[JoanneF]

@Violet Turner please read Judyn's post again. Then read what the OP said about their mum and dad. Can you consider for a second that it might just be irresponsible of you to point a youngster towards dogs that are inherently unsuitable as pets? Again? Nobody wants to deny anyone the right to have a dog. But neither does anyone want to see a family with an animal they clearly don't have the lifestyle, skills or experience to handle; which will without a shadow of a doubt end in the dog being rehomed or euthanised.

 

[Violet Turner]

@Violet Turner please read Judyn's post again. Then read what the OP said about their mum and dad. Can you consider for a second that it might just be irresponsible of you to point a youngster towards dogs that are inherently unsuitable as pets? Again? Nobody wants to deny anyone the right to have a dog. But neither does anyone want to see a family with an animal they clearly don't have the lifestyle, skills or experience to handle; which will without a shadow of a doubt end in the dog being rehomed or euthanised.

I'm very confused with this? i re read it i see no problem with the advice i gave?

 

[JoanneF]

Really? The OP is a youngster. Therefore by virtue of age he or she lacks the experience to handle a Patterdale which people who know them describe as extreme. Yet you are happy to advise the OP where to find a dog with very high kill drive. Can you really not see the potential problem with that? Or does the accident actually have to happen before you realise there might even be a problem?

OP, if your family is keen on a terrier please revisit the idea of a border terrier. They are smart little dogs who are far better suited to a first time owner and pet environment.

 

[Violet Turner]

Really? The OP is a youngster. Therefore by virtue of age he or she lacks the experience to handle a Patterdale which people who know them describe as extreme. Yet you are happy to advise the OP where to find a dog with very high kill drive. Can you really not see the potential problem with that? Or does the accident actually have to happen before you realise there might even be a problem?

OP, if your family is keen on a terrier please revisit the idea of a border terrier. They are smart little dogs who are far better suited to a first time owner and pet environment.

border Terriers are worse! than Patterdale Terriers in my opinion

 

[JoanneF]

Well I am sorry but your opinion is only that. Your opinion.

 

[BrianLovesAkitas]

You have very specific options. I know how you feel. You want a breed but there are non anywhere near you. You could try find a local breeder but you may have to make a compromise. Get an adult, or get another dog (if you don't find any puppies) Good luck!

 

[PatterdalePuppy]

Preloved and pets4homes are not the most reputable sites for quality puppies and with a Patterdale you will have to be very, very careful about temperament as they are essentially bred to work and are not the easiest of dogs as a pet. A good breeder will select parents of calmer and sound temperament if they are intending the litter not to be worked.

Champdogs is a better site to use for health and temperament tested dogs.

Okay, I will check the website.

Perhaps some rescue centres local to you might be a good place to look? I only say this due to the temperament issues @JoanneF refers to, there sadly might be a high abandonment rate. Let us know how you get on

Thank you

There is. And there is a Patterdale Rescue Society. The problem is many people take them on thinking they will make good pets but these dogs are bred to work so without a job they become frustrated, bored and that leads to huge behaviour issues that people who don't have A LOT of terrier experience just struggle with. OP I hope you realise these dogs are not your average family pet.

Perhaps you could suggest some alternative breeds? My mum wants a low-shedding dog. So, easier low-shedding dogs other than Border Terriers?

 

[BrianLovesAkitas]

Okay, I will check the website.
Thank you

Perhaps you could suggest some alternative breeds? My mum wants a low-shedding dog. So, easier low-shedding dogs?

I would suggest a greyhound. Retired if you can. Get a feel for owning a dog, They are low maintenance, are basically 40 mph couch potatoes.

 

[JoanneF]

So, easier low-shedding dogs other than Border Terriers

Mini Schnauzer?

 

[PatterdalePuppy]

Okay I've been doing research for rescue centres in the UK for Patterdale Terriers.

I found some on the Dogs Trust- https://www.dogstrust.org.uk/rehoming/dogs/filters/~228~~~~n~ I also found some on the RSPCA website for Kent- https://www.rspca.org.uk/findapet

And some on the Blue Cross -https://www.bluecross.org.uk/rehome/dog?f[0]=field_breed:64&f[1]=field_species_single:6&view_name=find-a-pet&facet_field=field_horse_height&display_name=page&distance=50

A Patterdale rescue - http://www.patterdaleterrierrescue.co.uk/

Also a link to pets4homes- https://www.pets4homes.co.uk/classifieds/1845459-little-pip-wants-a-new-forever-loving-home-barnsley.html



Good luck with your search!

Thank you!

OP, if your family is keen on a terrier please revisit the idea of a border terrier. They are smart little dogs who are far better suited to a first time owner and pet environment.

We did think about a border terrier, but switched to a Patterdale. I will ask my mum and dad if we could rethink.

You have very specific options. I know how you feel. You want a breed but there are non anywhere near you. You could try find a local breeder but you may have to make a compromise. Get an adult, or get another dog (if you don't find any puppies) Good luck!

Thank you!

I would suggest a greyhound. Retired if you can. Get a feel for owning a dog, They are low maintenance, are basically 40 mph couch potatoes.

Maybe.

 

[BrianLovesAkitas]

Thank you!

We did think about a border terrier, but switched to a Patterdale. I will ask my mum and dad if we could rethink.

Thank you!

Maybe.

Maybe a jack russel?

 

[PatterdalePuppy]

@JoanneF, I didn't find any Patterdales on Champdogs (probably something to do with that they're not currently recognised by the Kennel Club), but there are loads of border terriers, which is promising.

 

[JoanneF]

Maybe a jack russel?

They shed. As do greyounds. Maybe not massively but the hairs can be hard to get out of fabric when they needle in.

my mum said she has to be spayed so her periods won't be regular

It's a good idea but more for the pyometra risk.