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[Janimal]

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Helen - just want to wish Josie all the best and hope she recovers - and her paw is back to normal soon. :thumbsup: :huggles: :luck: :luck: :huggles: at least you know now it was nothing more serious.

 

[Max&Smokey]

Jax,

Having just lost a whippet recently to kidney disease, this is what the experience taught me. The symptoms appear only when alot of the kidney function is lost forever. If I had found out earlier for £30 I could have changed the diet and combined with drugs saved my dog lots of discomfort and prolonged his life considerably. Unfortunately I hadnt visited the vet until he was ill and then it was too late. So before you think the vet is just money grabbing , pause he may just have seen lots of dogs with kidney disease that was discovered to late.

Kind regards

Chris

 

[JAX]

Thanks for your concern ,and I know what you mean , but Mollee was going in for stitches , nothing to do with her `being ill ` at all , . Shes 100% healthy . and to always be on the `safe ` side id hav to take all my whips in every week for tests ,wouldnt I

Sorry to her about your loss

I lost a 6year old cat with Kidney faliure many years ago

 

[gilliwigs]

I have to agree with Chris about detecting kidney disease early. We also lost our 10 year old whippet, Josh, to kidney disease 2 months ago. We didn't discover anything wrong until it was too late and although he lived for 5+ months after diagnosis if it had been found out earlier he would probably still be here and enjoying life with our puppy, Muffin. What makes me even more annoyed is that Josh had his teeth scaled a year ago and we realise now that at his age we really should have been offered a blood test which would have picked up the disease. We have since moved areas and our vets offer routine screening to test for kidney/liver disease. It costs £15 and once Muffin is 4 or 5 years old we won't begrudge a penny of it if it picks up this awful disease early. I would much prefer to pay than to lose him from kidney disease at what I consider to be an early age like we did Josh.

Here is a picture of Josh. He was a lovely-natured, gentle whippet and we still miss him lots!

Gillian

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[BeeJay]

Poor Josie. She looks a bit put out with that bandage on. Though Lola thinks that it's fun.

BUT why is she wearing a bandage? What's it supposed to be doing for her? When all she has is a bit of bruising. I don't understand why she is wearing a bandage.

To be honest Helen I don't think that I'd have taken her to a GP vets. After having a good examine myself I'd have rested her up at home and seen how she was tomorrow. If I was still worried then I'd have gone to see a greyhound vet.

I do wonder what your vets would have done if she wasn't insured and what the purpose of that bandage is.

 

[Alastair E]

Ah well, the vet wanted to see her just to check it wasn't anything serious... but she wasn't having any examination without a jolly good yelp. So she's been sedated and examined and x-rayed - and there's nothing wrong that they can see :rant:   :rant:   :rant:   :rant:

Dont you just love vets !!!!!!! :rant: Sorry ILKC , but Helen has really been taken for a ride .

Why couldnt they advice 10-14 days rest first , oh no , Lets SEDATE !! and Xray £££££££, Sorry you lot , but they (vets) do think we print our own money dont they .

Mollee has recently had to be sedated and because shes over 8years they want ed to do blood tests for kidney / liver problems ( which she dosnt have ) , the cost £30+  (w00t)   I refused , shes a young , healthy whippet  .Just because they now have the equipment to do these tests on the spot (Many years ago they would have had to send them away , so didnt do them  :- " ) they think we owners can stump up the money for all their new equpiment  Well NOT ME !!. Should I deem it nescessary than I will spend ALL my money on my dogs , but not for thing s that I dont think are , they can whisltle  

Helen , hope Josie is ok  :luck:

Sorry for stealing your thread , but Vets really do take the p**s at times

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Unfortunately its not just the vets!

The drug companies who supply vets, subsiduaries like Arnolds, who supply Vetoryl for the treatment of Cushings disease, charge exorbitant amounts for the capsules.

The Human approved version is MODRENAL = 63 quid for 100 caps, 60mg. Trilostane

The Vetinary approved version is VETORYL = just under 175 quid for 100 caps, 60 mg Trilostane INCOMING to the vets!! :rant:

Untill recently, my vet used to give me a prescription for the chemist to obtain MODRENAL. However, Vets are governed by something called the 'Cascade of prescribing', meaning if there is a vetinary approved version of a drug, no matter what the costings, then this MUST be prescribed, if not, then the next best drug, must be used, even though there may be a MUCH better Human treatment available, or they are in default of the Cascade, and another piece of their own legislation, called 'Amelia 8'

When Rocky developed Cushings, I did a huge amount of research on it and the treatments for it I even found the company who 'Invented' Trilostane, and had to PROVE to the vet that both Modrenal and vetoryl are Trilostane, and he begrugingly gave me a prescription for it A couple of months ago however, his vetinary partners found out and put the kybosh on him giving prescriptions

At least I now get Vetoryl at the Incoming price, instead of OVER 2.50 PER CAPSULE, which is what he charges everyone else on this medication :rant:

Your average dog suffering from Cushings needs around 1 capsule per day, Some need more..........

Thats nearly 20 quid a WEEK to keep your dog healthy! :rant: :rant: :rant:

 

[ILoveKettleChips]

I typed a big long reply then realised it had nothing to do with poor Josie's gammy leg, so I've posted it elsewhere :b

To all those critics of the bandage: the bandage was put on for quite, quite obvious reasons.

Josie has an image to maintain, dontcha know? :lol:

 

[~Helen~]

Re: the bandage, the vet did say Josie didn't actually need a bandage at all, but that she'd put it on just to support the foot in case there was bruising that she was unable to detect, and also to make Josie feel looked-after. She was just making sure Josie was molly-coddled, which I think was quite sweet because at least she (vet) considered the psychological side of things. Dogs need TLC too :lol: And it was fine, because Josie had a high old time on the way home, beging fussed and having little boys say "Awwww, look at that dog's bad foot, Mummy" :b (Makes a change from "Look at that skinny dog, Mummy" :lol: :wacko:

And Beejay, I understand why you would have taken care of this yourself and not gone to a GP vet - but you are confident and competent to do that because you have so much experience of dogs and injuries. I am a totally novice dog-owner who didn't even think she liked dogs until last year :- " so I have no experience to call on. I did what I thought was best, and got Josie checked over by the people I consider experts (they're certainly more expert than me). Unfortunately I don't know any greyhound vets, but if you can recommend one in the south west then I'd be very grateful :thumbsup:

Anyway, all's well that ends well because she's fine today. I'm keeping them both on garden-only exercise just for the day, to be sure it's all better. Hope Archie and Fynn are soon on the mend, Jo :luck:

 

[BeeJay]

re the bandage. I wouldn't bandage a foot unless it was absolutely necessary. The reason for this is from what I've read and also from my vet - that supporting the foot can lead to the supporting structures softening. ie the ligaments can go floppy. This means that when you take the bandage off the foot has a weakend structure and is more likely to dislocate. In short from everything that I've ever read and heard it is NOT at all a good thing to do. Which is why I've queried why it was used.

As for my experience. I've learned from racing people. I ask and ask and ask them about injuries. Toes get damaged when racing and I find out what's happened and what they would do - what the treatments are. I do this in case it happens to one of mine.

Personally if any of my dogs are lame I examine them, rest and massage them. As I don't want to make a slight injury worse. If my dogs are injured then they can't run. I run some of my dogs competatively so I try to avoid injuries if I can.

I also do not expect any GP vet to know as much about running injuries as a greyhound vets does. Greyhound vets are experts in running injuries GP vets aren't. It is IMO unfair to expect them to be. Although of course some are I just wouldn't expect them to be. Yours may well be. In which case you are very fortunate. Mine aren't so I go to a greyhound vet in Swindon. One that many racing people use and who comes highly recommended. I've pm'd you with his name and phone number.

I was told years ago by a referal vet friend that it was most unfair to expect General Practise vets to know everything. They are generalists not specialists. They are great at everyday things AND they treat very wide range of animals, there is simply a limit to what they can be expected to know. When you want an expert in a specialist matter then go to one if you can afford to.

 

[slimfast]

re the bandage.  I wouldn't bandage a foot unless it was absolutely necessary.  The reason for this is from what I've read and also from my vet - that supporting the foot can lead to the supporting structures softening.  ie the ligaments can go floppy.  This means that when you take the bandage off the foot has a weakend structure and is more likely to dislocate.  In short from everything that I've ever read and heard it is NOT at all a good thing to do.  Which is why I've queried why it was used.
As for my experience.  I've learned from racing people.  I ask and ask and ask them about injuries.  Toes get damaged when racing and I find out what's happened and what they would do - what the treatments are.  I do this in case it happens to one of mine.

Personally if any of my dogs are lame I examine them, rest and massage them.  As I don't want to make a slight injury worse.  If my dogs are injured then they can't run.  I run some of my dogs competatively so I try to avoid injuries if I can.

I also do not expect any GP vet to know as much about running injuries as a greyhound vets does.  Greyhound vets are experts in running injuries GP vets aren't.  It is IMO unfair to expect them to be.  Although of course some are I just wouldn't expect them to be.  Yours may well be.  In which case you are very fortunate.  Mine aren't so I go to a greyhound vet in Swindon.  One that many racing people use and who comes highly recommended.  I've pm'd you with his name and phone number. 

I was told years ago by a referal vet friend that it was most unfair to expect General Practise vets to know everything.  They are generalists not specialists.  They are great at everyday things AND they treat very wide range of animals, there is simply a limit to what they can be expected to know.  When you want an expert in a specialist matter then go to one if you can afford to.

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i agree with you beejay they must see a racing vet. they know what they are doing . toe ligaments may need pin firing or cementing because there is a good chance that it will happen again. :thumbsup:

 

[JAX]

re the bandage.  I wouldn't bandage a foot unless it was absolutely necessary.  The reason for this is from what I've read and also from my vet - that supporting the foot can lead to the supporting structures softening.  ie the ligaments can go floppy.  This means that when you take the bandage off the foot has a weakend structure and is more likely to dislocate.  In short from everything that I've ever read and heard it is NOT at all a good thing to do.  Which is why I've queried why it was used.
As for my experience.  I've learned from racing people.  I ask and ask and ask them about injuries.  Toes get damaged when racing and I find out what's happened and what they would do - what the treatments are.  I do this in case it happens to one of mine.

Personally if any of my dogs are lame I examine them, rest and massage them.   As I don't want to make a slight injury worse.  If my dogs are injured then they can't run.  I run some of my dogs competatively so I try to avoid injuries if I can.

I also do not expect any GP vet to know as much about running injuries as a greyhound vets does.  Greyhound vets are experts in running injuries GP vets aren't.  It is IMO unfair to expect them to be.  Although of course some are I just wouldn't expect them to be.  Yours may well be.  In which case you are very fortunate.  Mine aren't so I go to a greyhound vet in Swindon.  One that many racing people use and who comes highly recommended.  I've pm'd you with his name and phone number. 

I was told years ago by a referal vet friend that it was most unfair to expect General Practise vets to know everything.  They are generalists not specialists.  They are great at everyday things AND they treat very wide range of animals, there is simply a limit to what they can be expected to know.  When you want an expert in a specialist matter then go to one if you can afford to.

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i agree with you beejay they must see a racing vet. they know what they are doing . toe ligaments may need pin firing or cementing because there is a good chance that it will happen again. :thumbsup:

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I cant believe they still do that barbaric treatment :rant: Many moons ago when I worked a the local dog track ,one of `my` charges had both his wrists `pin fired and what a mess that was too , He still was never 100% sound `

 

[ILoveKettleChips]

I cant believe they still do that barbaric treatment  :rant:   Many moons ago  when I worked a the local dog track ,one of `my` charges had both his wrists `pin fired    and what a mess that was too , He still was never 100% sound ` 

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It's horrific, they still practise it on horses sometimes. Appalling.

 

[Joanna]

Hi Helen,

Archie is still wearing his bandage, it is really just to stop him pulling the toe out again whilst the ligament heals. I am visiting the vet weekly and will see how it goes. The greyhound vet has been recomended, but I have been told his treatment for dislocated toes so can go ahead with that. Fynn's pad is looking better, but I defy a person to design a bandage that he can't pull off the minute my back is turned :- "

Glad Josie is OK, I also rely on advice from others and my own common sense, when in doubt, I use the vet :thumbsup:

 

[BeeJay]

Hi Helen,Archie is still wearing his bandage, it is really just to stop him pulling the toe out again whilst the ligament heals. I am visiting the vet weekly and will see how it goes. The greyhound vet has been recomended, but I have been told his treatment for dislocated toes so can go ahead with that. Fynn's pad is looking better, but I defy a person to design a bandage that he can't pull off the minute my back is turned :- "

Glad Josie is OK, I also rely on advice from others and my own common sense, when in doubt, I use the vet :thumbsup:

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Poor Archie. Which ligament has been damaged Jo? How badly was it damaged? What is the treatment plan for him?

Glad to read that Fynn's pad is looking better. Hasn't he taken off Archie's bandage as well as his own.

 

[Joanna]

Hi Helen,Archie is still wearing his bandage, it is really just to stop him pulling the toe out again whilst the ligament heals. I am visiting the vet weekly and will see how it goes. The greyhound vet has been recomended, but I have been told his treatment for dislocated toes so can go ahead with that. Fynn's pad is looking better, but I defy a person to design a bandage that he can't pull off the minute my back is turned :- "

Glad Josie is OK, I also rely on advice from others and my own common sense, when in doubt, I use the vet :thumbsup:

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Poor Archie. Which ligament has been damaged Jo? How badly was it damaged? What is the treatment plan for him?

Glad to read that Fynn's pad is looking better. Hasn't he taken off Archie's bandage as well as his own.

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Hi Barb,

The toe is the outer one on his front left. At the moment, he is bandaged to stop him from pulling it, and we are having it reviewed weekly at the vet. If after a month it appears to have healed, all well and good, if not, surgery may have to be considered, the I would want an orthopeadic specialist or greyhound vet to give an opinion before I make that decision.

 

[BeeJay]

Fingers crossed that it'll heal okay without surgery or other more invasive treatment.

Poor Archie. :huggles: Bet that it doesn't stop him from tearing around though.

 

[slimfast]

re the bandage.  I wouldn't bandage a foot unless it was absolutely necessary.  The reason for this is from what I've read and also from my vet - that supporting the foot can lead to the supporting structures softening.  ie the ligaments can go floppy.  This means that when you take the bandage off the foot has a weakend structure and is more likely to dislocate.  In short from everything that I've ever read and heard it is NOT at all a good thing to do.  Which is why I've queried why it was used.
As for my experience.  I've learned from racing people.  I ask and ask and ask them about injuries.  Toes get damaged when racing and I find out what's happened and what they would do - what the treatments are.  I do this in case it happens to one of mine.

Personally if any of my dogs are lame I examine them, rest and massage them.   As I don't want to make a slight injury worse.  If my dogs are injured then they can't run.  I run some of my dogs competatively so I try to avoid injuries if I can.

I also do not expect any GP vet to know as much about running injuries as a greyhound vets does.  Greyhound vets are experts in running injuries GP vets aren't.  It is IMO unfair to expect them to be.  Although of course some are I just wouldn't expect them to be.  Yours may well be.  In which case you are very fortunate.  Mine aren't so I go to a greyhound vet in Swindon.  One that many racing people use and who comes highly recommended.  I've pm'd you with his name and phone number. 

I was told years ago by a referal vet friend that it was most unfair to expect General Practise vets to know everything.  They are generalists not specialists.  They are great at everyday things AND they treat very wide range of animals, there is simply a limit to what they can be expected to know.  When you want an expert in a specialist matter then go to one if you can afford to.

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i agree with you beejay they must see a racing vet. they know what they are doing . toe ligaments may need pin firing or cementing because there is a good chance that it will happen again. :thumbsup:

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I cant believe they still do that barbaric treatment :rant: Many moons ago when I worked a the local dog track ,one of `my` charges had both his wrists `pin fired and what a mess that was too , He still was never 100% sound `

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what a load of tosh. gypsy jean goode bitch has had it done and shes racing allright .her toe kept poping out with out pin firing.i have had squizzles toe cemented which the vet said was the best way to treat the injury. sports grayhound indjury clinic in shepshed he is the vet for nottinham grayhound track :rant:

 

[Strike Whippets]

Hi Helen,Archie is still wearing his bandage, it is really just to stop him pulling the toe out again whilst the ligament heals. I am visiting the vet weekly and will see how it goes. The greyhound vet has been recomended, but I have been told his treatment for dislocated toes so can go ahead with that. Fynn's pad is looking better, but I defy a person to design a bandage that he can't pull off the minute my back is turned :- "

Glad Josie is OK, I also rely on advice from others and my own common sense, when in doubt, I use the vet :thumbsup:

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Poor Archie. Which ligament has been damaged Jo? How badly was it damaged? What is the treatment plan for him?

Glad to read that Fynn's pad is looking better. Hasn't he taken off Archie's bandage as well as his own.

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Hi Barb,

The toe is the outer one on his front left. At the moment, he is bandaged to stop him from pulling it, and we are having it reviewed weekly at the vet. If after a month it appears to have healed, all well and good, if not, surgery may have to be considered, the I would want an orthopeadic specialist or greyhound vet to give an opinion before I make that decision.

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3 of my lot have popped/dislocated toe's .......I followed advice I was given and not 1 has needed surgery ........bearing in mind 2 of mine had bad ligament damage to the toe ......Surgery make's that toe more vunerable IMHO ..........Bone Radial and massage work's wonder's :thumbsup:

 

[slimfast]

Hi Helen,Archie is still wearing his bandage, it is really just to stop him pulling the toe out again whilst the ligament heals. I am visiting the vet weekly and will see how it goes. The greyhound vet has been recomended, but I have been told his treatment for dislocated toes so can go ahead with that. Fynn's pad is looking better, but I defy a person to design a bandage that he can't pull off the minute my back is turned :- "

Glad Josie is OK, I also rely on advice from others and my own common sense, when in doubt, I use the vet :thumbsup:

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Poor Archie. Which ligament has been damaged Jo? How badly was it damaged? What is the treatment plan for him?

Glad to read that Fynn's pad is looking better. Hasn't he taken off Archie's bandage as well as his own.

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Hi Barb,

The toe is the outer one on his front left. At the moment, he is bandaged to stop him from pulling it, and we are having it reviewed weekly at the vet. If after a month it appears to have healed, all well and good, if not, surgery may have to be considered, the I would want an orthopeadic specialist or greyhound vet to give an opinion before I make that decision.

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3 of my lot have popped/dislocated toe's .......I followed advice I was given and not 1 has needed surgery ........bearing in mind 2 of mine had bad ligament damage to the toe ......Surgery make's that toe more vunerable IMHO ..........Bone Radial and massage work's wonder's :thumbsup:

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thats very good for your dogs i am glad to hear they are allright now .do you bend race them .

 

[Strike Whippets]

Never run Inca round a complete bend 'cos she dosn't run at most track's .......but her and Miya do our curve and Miya's run bend's ........my 3rd one's a bit too old at 10 & 1/2